UT Settles, Guess Butchy Jones Won't Have to Testify
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You know, maybe it's the truth. The elites in every phase of life, government, sports and colleges get away with murder with their power and money.
I was surprised at how light UT got off with the settlement. So it made me think they didn't really have much of a case and just took what was offered. By the time lawyer fees and all other expenses they will average less than 100k each. If they were trying to send a message, sent the wrong one to me.
UT would've spent far more than this in lawyer fees had they decided to continue on and fight it.
The plaintiffs get to pocket some change, and UT changes policy and procedure. Butch is back to recruiting with no ammo for rival coaches to use against him.
Yes young man. It is so. C'est la vie...
Which is one reason I love my Wildcats. A win is a win.
Probably true in all aspects of your post....but big schools like UT have lawyers already on payroll in droves (granted maybe not practicing elite civil lawyers).to pick from.
But as expected...this is the outcome I expected.
The settlement probably landed each plaintiff $100k or a little more (assuming their cases apportioned equally) not less as Grumpy suggests. The settlement probably demonstrates the problems at UT which would have cost UT in PR dollars, but also the fact that few women want to litigate a case where they were sexually assaulted. Most are trying to move on with their lives. Also, linking the liability to the school would have been a difficult hurdle, especially with a Tennessee jury. The settlement provides substance to the claims. The women compromised their claims. The idea that UT pays $2.48 million in attorney fees to make weak cases go away is absurd.
The only logical answer to this heretofore relatively unknown and only recently "enforced" provision of Title IX is to re-write Title IX to eliminate provisions that are addressed by or otherwise create a conflict with established legal statutes. Or Universities can simply decline any Federal money thus immunizing itself from the consequences of a Title IX violation (fat chance of that). While individuals have won lawsuits against institutions it is my understanding that no institution has ever lost a nickel of federal money due to a Title iX violation.
Believe me, I am totally opposed to all forms of campus violence butI I am pretty sure such acts are addressed by statuary law. Title IX was well intended but created a muddled and virtually unenforcible "parallel justice system". Title IX provisions explicitly involve the University in the independent behavior of students which, in turn makes the institution culpable. And guess who has the deepest pocket.
JMO.
Peace
Believe me, I am totally opposed to all forms of campus violence butI I am pretty sure such acts are addressed by statuary law. Title IX was well intended but created a muddled and virtually unenforcible "parallel justice system". Title IX provisions explicitly involve the University in the independent behavior of students which, in turn makes the institution culpable. And guess who has the deepest pocket.
JMO.
Peace
Dang!
And I was so looking forward to their AD that said athletes were treated the same as everyone else on campus explaining how the EIGHT thugs with free admission to the nightclub that SHOULD have been charged with attempted murder escaped without even a parking ticket.
Of course we know the TU limo picked them up after the "workout", maybe they took them there also so a parking ticket wasn't even a possibility.
Yeah, sounds like settling was the wise thing to do, much like having Strong avoid testifying in the regent's divorce case was a no brainer.
And I was so looking forward to their AD that said athletes were treated the same as everyone else on campus explaining how the EIGHT thugs with free admission to the nightclub that SHOULD have been charged with attempted murder escaped without even a parking ticket.
Of course we know the TU limo picked them up after the "workout", maybe they took them there also so a parking ticket wasn't even a possibility.
Yeah, sounds like settling was the wise thing to do, much like having Strong avoid testifying in the regent's divorce case was a no brainer.
One thing I notice in the article:
It is the third financial settlement involving the athletics department under the leadership of Dave Hart in two years...
five of the implicated athletes and one nonathlete named in the federal lawsuit were found by the university's own internal investigation to have committed sexual assaults, but were allowed to remain on campus, graduate or transfer to other schools while the sexual assault investigations continued, in some cases for years, according to the plaintiffs.
Sounds like a loss of institutional control, but I doubt anyone at the NCAA will look into it. Personally, if I had a child there is no possible way that I would send them to a school with this overtly sanction level of sexual assault. It sounds like it is literally going to take a death of a student to make anyone enforce some sort of change.
It is the third financial settlement involving the athletics department under the leadership of Dave Hart in two years...
five of the implicated athletes and one nonathlete named in the federal lawsuit were found by the university's own internal investigation to have committed sexual assaults, but were allowed to remain on campus, graduate or transfer to other schools while the sexual assault investigations continued, in some cases for years, according to the plaintiffs.
Sounds like a loss of institutional control, but I doubt anyone at the NCAA will look into it. Personally, if I had a child there is no possible way that I would send them to a school with this overtly sanction level of sexual assault. It sounds like it is literally going to take a death of a student to make anyone enforce some sort of change.
Meanwhile the criminal trial is "on hold" it will be interesting to see what, if anything every comes of that. Typically when important athletes are involved the legal process has a way of slowing down concurrent with their eligibility clock.
Interesting, UT maintained they aren't guilty then paid $2.4M not to prove it.
Businesses do it all the time. Cheaper to pay and make it go away than fight it and pay legal fees + taking the chance at losing and paying a bigger settlement.
That doesn't make it one iota more right.
And who better to stand up for right than a University (real one, not an athletics factory, right jurich?) that has all the millions football is bringing in to spend.
Of course when you ARE guilty then maybe the best thing to do is make it go away as soon as possible, how embarrassing would have Hart's stupid lie have turned out to be with full exposure?