Very little being said about duhO$U's abysmal Offensive performance.

[JoePaMajorCFBrecord409Ws]

Ohio State's offense will improve. Sayin is a step down from Howard and Donaldson is not nearly as good as Henderson and Judkins. Tate and Smith are excellent and Sayin will gain chemistry with them. Their O-Line is solid (did they give up any sacks?). Defense is elite....again. It will take our "A" game to beat them.

duhO$U's O-Line played solid when they only had 89 yards rushing for the game on 31 carries??? Really??? duhO$U's OL played solid when duhO$U's offense only put up 203 yards of Total Offense??? Really???

Look, I could care less who is ranked #1 - it is utterly irrelevant to anything. Meaningless. But duhO$U is not a complete team and beat a Texas team that was wildly over-rated @Home (Mel Kiper listed Arch Manning as his projected #1 NFL Prospect prior to the season which is a laughable joke - he based his rating on a name, not play.... and this moron is paid millions for nonsense projections like this. ESPN showed a stat breakdown of Manning during halftime of the USCe vs VaTech.... Manning threw 37% of his passes "Off Target" [meaning un-catchable throw], which was 90% of his incompletions! ESPN said it was the worst performance by a Texas QB in at least 10 years according to their analysis.).

duhO$U's Offense did not look good at all and put up numbers that will put them literally bottom of the barrel in Total Offense in all of FBS after the opening week of CFB.

 

[manatree]

duhO$U's O-Line played solid when they only had 89 yards rushing for the game on 31 carries??? Really??? duhO$U's OL played solid when duhO$U's offense only put up 203 yards of Total Offense??? Really???

Look, I could care less who is ranked #1 - it is utterly irrelevant to anything. Meaningless. But duhO$U is not a complete team and beat a Texas team that was wildly over-rated @Home (Mel Kiper listed Arch Manning as his projected #1 NFL Prospect prior to the season which is a laughable joke - he based his rating on a name, not play.... and this moron is paid millions for nonsense projections like this. ESPN showed a stat breakdown of Manning during halftime of the USCe vs VaTech.... Manning threw 37% of his passes "Off Target" [meaning un-catchable throw], which was 90% of his incompletions! ESPN said it was the worst performance by a Texas QB in at least 10 years according to their analysis.).

duhO$U's Offense did not look good at all and put up numbers that will put them literally bottom of the barrel in Total Offense in all of FBS after the opening week of CFB.

Again, what are your thoughts on the offensive performance listed below? And this one came in the last game of the season.

First downs	8
Plays–yards	59–162
Rushes–yards	43–109
Passing yards	53
Passing: comp–att–int	5–16–1
Time of possession	26:17
Points scored	14
Points allowed	10

 

[psuno1]

OSU is going to have its hands full @ Washington and @Illinos but they still have tones of talent. UM's Underwood looked awful good for a freshman.

 

[JoePaMajorCFBrecord409Ws]

Again, what are your thoughts on the offensive performance listed below? And this one came in the last game of the season.

First downs	8
Plays–yards	59–162
Rushes–yards	43–109
Passing yards	53
Passing: comp–att–int	5–16–1
Time of possession	26:17
Points scored	14
Points allowed	10

Just flat bizzaro that you think referencing a game from 38 years ago somehow proves that duhO$U's Offense didn't play like dog-crap on Saturday when their Offensive production numbers are objectively tied for 4th worst in all of FBS (136 teams in 2025) after week 1 (only teams worse are Miami-OH, Buffalo and Middle Tennessee State)??? Keep posting strawman arguments and tilting at windmills instead of addressing THE OBJECTIVE FACTUAL argument made. LMAO at how lame you are.

 

[bbrown]

Be cautious with how many conclusions you make about a team from week 1.

I saw a few but pretty much agree with what you said(specifically our OL on Sat) but my few take aways from the OSU game: Manning was severely overrated and never going to live up to the hype. Not sure why since there were some samples sizes before the OSU game last year.
OSU’s run game took a HUGE backslide from last year.
Texas ran pretty well against them.

 

[bbrown]

Against an elite defense. Just like Manning, Nussmeier and Klubnik all projected 1st round QBs played elite defenses and struggled
Clemson rushed for 32 yards and Klubnik hit just 50% of his passes with a pick/no TDs. Is Clemson awful or is that another example of defenses being ahead of offenses early in the year?
Sayin was asked to manage the game--he did so. They won. LSu won. That's their job. You don't need to put up 450 yards to win--or shouldn't.
As Penn State fan, we don't recall what defenses battles were like?
Honestly, this is just setting up people on this board to bash Allar when he plays against Ohio State and doesn't put up 300 yards. He won't. That defense is too good. Just like Sayin won't have huge numbers against us.
Sometimes it's about the defense but I doubt any Ohio State fan is worried about their offense--same with LSU this morning--they have time to figure that out.

Pretty much agree but OSU’s run game took a big hit from last year.

 

[bbrown]

Blah, blah, blah.... no way you're winning a National Championship with an offense that is that ineffective. Period. 215 yards of offense, with only 89 yards rushing, is beyond bad.... ridiculously bad and not one member of the media has brought this up. You aren't winning a National Championship with an offense that is going to rank close to dead last in all of FBS football in Total Offense after week one. Slice it any way you like KingTurdo, but duhO$U's offense does not look like an offense remotely capable of taking them to a NC.

Has any member of the media brought up Sarks record against top 10 teams yet? I mean it’s the first thing out of their mouths and some of our own fans when talking about Franklins.

 

[bbrown]

Looks pretty easy to defend LSU, just defend screen passes because that’s all they run.

I also never understood all the love that Klubnick gets

 

[bbrown]

Feel like OSU and Texas are two of the best teams in the country and played pretty evenly for the most part. They’re gonna roll a lot of other teams and both are likely in the playoffs. Their performances were dictated/limited by their opponents - I wouldn’t take a ton from this save Manning isn’t anywhere near as good as advertised.

Agree. Will also add OSU’s running game is nowhere close to last years.
And Smith might have had his worst game. Although I did expect more out of Tate.

 

[WestSideLion]

It is all forum conversation until Nov 1. In the meantime let both teams take care of business between now and then and have a No1 vs No 2 matchup. on Nov 1.

OSU has now won 4 consecutive games against top 5 teams. That can be stretched to 5 straight against top 7 if you count Tennessee.

Looking at JF's record against top 5/10 teams PSU fans while they may hate OSU has to respect that.

OSU is the last program that should draw criticism right now. They won the Natty and beat the #1 team in week one with a new QB.

They’re set up to repeat, IMO. I don’t expect PSU to win in Columbus, but hope they do. Tough to find a sure loss on OSU’s schedule.

 

[Warlerski]

duhO$U did not remotely look like the #1 team in the Country - Manning might be the most wildly over-rated player in quite some time; his interception was a laughably bad highschool-esque throw. The duhO$U d-back didn't even have to make a great play to pick it off... just a ridiculously bad throw. duhO$U's win was more attributable to Texas being insanely over-rated and playing at home then duhO$U looking like the #1 team. duhO$U only put up 215 Total Offensive yards! Their rushing attack was awful - 89 rushing yards on 31 carries???

BTN hyping Julian Sayin's performance which is laughable (he was 13 of 20 for a whopping 126 passing yards LMAO). BTN has not said a word about how bad duhO$U's Offense looked.

Texas looked even less the part of a #1 team, with one of the most insanely over-rated players (Manning) in recent memory, than duhO$U did, which is one of the primary reasons for duhO$U's win - that and playing at home... certainly wasn't their offense remotely looking like a #1 team.

Here is why:
Texas has a very good D, some say the best in the country. This is especially true against the run. For OSU, it is the first game of the year, with a new QB, a new OC and new running backs. Given all of the new faces, OSU chose to play is safe. The 13 of 20 also included 4 drops (1st game jitters?) By the way when it comes to "DuhO$U", OSU has an NIL of about 20M, Texas is estimated at 35-40M. Manning alone gets almost 7M. Sayin outplayed him. They play Grambling this week. If OSU is held to 14 points, you may have a valid point.

 

[KingLando]

I also never understood all the love that Klubnick gets

I remember watching him very early in his career and thinking he could be special. He hasn't lived up to that obviously but he has the skills. All the rumored top picks have yet to put it all together. Should be interesting to see how that plays out this year. Hopefully Drew earns that top spot.

 

[PSUForever]

Here is why:
Texas has a very good D, some say the best in the country. This is especially true against the run. For OSU, it is the first game of the year, with a new QB, a new OC and new running backs. Given all of the new faces, OSU chose to play is safe. The 13 of 20 also included 4 drops (1st game jitters?) By the way when it comes to "DuhO$U", OSU has an NIL of about 20M, Texas is estimated at 35-40M. Manning alone gets almost 7M. Sayin outplayed him. They play Grambling this week. If OSU is held to 14 points, you may have a valid point.

Speaking of the 13-20 for Sayin with 4 drops: Our worst nightmare is Sayin gets better and better, more confidence, great chemistry with Smith and Tate while their O-Line gets better and better. Then they play us in Columbus and Sayin outplays Allar. I'll remind everyone about last season and their O-Line. They had key injuries and everyone was saying their O-Line was going to collapse and be a big weakness for them. They just reloaded and win the NC. Anyone saying the OSU offense is not good or will be a hindrance to them this year is just desperately hoping that but it won't happen.

 

[paleryder]

Oh come on, that throw was ridiculously bad (not only stared-down his receiver, but underthrew the pass to the wrong side of the receiver - you're supposed to throw the ball to the opposite side that the db is on. The db had inside-leverage and Arch threw the ball short and to the inside.). The db didn't make some great play... they merely moved forward on a ball that was thrown woefully bad and looked like they were fair-catching a punt!

Tell us again; how many looks did you get in HS??

 

[PSUFTG]

OSU is the last program that should draw criticism right now. They won the Natty and beat the #1 team in week one with a new QB.

This ^

 

[Hotshoe]

Wow, what a revelation - this might be one of the dumbest tautologies ever posted as a supposed proof statement. Winning the game does not change the FACT that duhO$U's Offense looked, and played, awful as unquestionably proven by the numbers (215 yards Total Offense and 89 yards rushing on 31 carries - abysmal performance).

No coach thinks like this, only fans like you do.

 

[JoePaMajorCFBrecord409Ws]

No coach thinks like this, only fans like you do.

No coach thinks that 89 rushing yards and 203 Total Offensive yards for an entire game is an abysmal offensive performance and production. Really??? Please list all these coaches that would be jumping for joy over these types of offensive numbers.

 

[manatree]

No coach thinks that 89 rushing yards and 203 Total Offensive yards for an entire game is an abysmal offensive performance and production. Really??? Please list all these coaches that would be jumping for joy over these types of offensive numbers.

No coach is ever jumping for joy with their stats in any game. However, any coach with a brain would be happy that they just beat the number one team and have four weeks to adjust and prepare for their next opponent with a pulse.

I am still trying to understand why Ohio State's initial offensive struggle against the #1 team is so worrisome to you, an alleged Penn State fan.

 

[nittanyfan333]

2 pages and this thread has that feel that the OP has made a decision and feels a certain way, and anyone who disagrees is going to be chastised and ridiculed for disagreeing.


i.e. useless

 

[JoePaMajorCFBrecord409Ws]

No coach thinks like this, only fans like you do.

BTW, duhO$U had 203 yards on 54 plays for an average of 3.75 YPP (Yards Per Play), which is beyond awful. To put it into perspective as to how bad it is, the worst average for Yards Per Offensive Snap in 2024 was 0-12 Kent State who averaged 3.8 yards per play in 2024. The median average yards per play in 2024 was 5.5 yards per play and the best was Miami's 7.4 yards per play (duhO$U was #4 in 2024 @ 6.8 ypp and PSU #10 @ 6.4).

Claiming that no coach cares about their team putting up offensive statistics that equate to the worst in all of FBS is beyond silly and laughable.

 

[bbrown]

2 pages and this thread has that feel that the OP has made a decision and feels a certain way, and anyone who disagrees is going to be chastised and ridiculed for disagreeing.


i.e. useless

Yea that posters long screen name, ranting and raving at everyone who responds. Reminds me of someone from the past...

 

[Dailybuck778]

duhO$U's O-Line played solid when they only had 89 yards rushing for the game on 31 carries??? Really??? duhO$U's OL played solid when duhO$U's offense only put up 203 yards of Total Offense??? Really???

Look, I could care less who is ranked #1 - it is utterly irrelevant to anything. Meaningless. But duhO$U is not a complete team and beat a Texas team that was wildly over-rated @Home (Mel Kiper listed Arch Manning as his projected #1 NFL Prospect prior to the season which is a laughable joke - he based his rating on a name, not play.... and this moron is paid millions for nonsense projections like this. ESPN showed a stat breakdown of Manning during halftime of the USCe vs VaTech.... Manning threw 37% of his passes "Off Target" [meaning un-catchable throw], which was 90% of his incompletions! ESPN said it was the worst performance by a Texas QB in at least 10 years according to their analysis.).

duhO$U's Offense did not look good at all and put up numbers that will put them literally bottom of the barrel in Total Offense in all of FBS after the opening week of CFB.

From Ryan Day's perspective it was a very good offensive game. He said the idea in the first game is not to beat yourself. OSU had virtually no mistakes. He also said they could have opened it up in the second half about 1:30 but that would have been selfish. Comments about playing to avoid mistakes are at 10:02 to 10:26. Didn't want to put too much responsibility on Sayin, which is a mistake he said he made when CJ Stroud played Oregon.

 

[WestSideLion]

This ^

Not sure if they are set to repeat or not - and haven't seen the OSU - Texas game.

I do know that their starting TB this year was "projected" to be the transfer in from WVU (who was probably the #2 TB on a bad WVU team). If so, they have a huge drop off there, which may hurt them. Hard to believe they don't have someone on their roster a lot better than the TB/FB guy from WVU, and maybe they do, and he will emerge as the season progresses.

It just feels like they’re the clear B1G favorite until someone (hopefully PSU) beats them.

They do such a great job recruiting and using the portal. They’ll have as much or more talent than every team they play.

 

[JoePaMajorCFBrecord409Ws]

2 pages and this thread has that feel that the OP has made a decision and feels a certain way, and anyone who disagrees is going to be chastised and ridiculed for disagreeing.


i.e. useless

LMAO! Posting FACTUAL OBJECTIVE STATS is now a "decision". 0-12 Kent State put up the worst Offensive Statistics in all of FBS last year - dead last in both Offensive YPG, and Offensive YPP (Yards Per Play) in 2024. Kent State's 228 YPG and 3.8 YPP (again, dead last in all of FBS and built by a team that went 0-12) were slightly better than the Offensive stats put up by duhO$U on Saturday - 203 Offensive Yards and 3.7 yards per snap.... but now we're being told that it's "debatable" weather these stats are bottom of the barrel offensive stats??? And a PSU fan should be permitted to be "ridiculed" and "chastized" for stating immutable, undeniable facts that are not "debateable" in any fashion whatsoever.... and further should be prohibited from stating them as such because duhO$U poser-fans on a Penn State board don't like these facts being posted on a PSU Board. LMAO at how insanely lame this one is.....

 

[nittanyfan333]

LMAO! Posting FACTUAL OBJECTIVE STATS is now a "decision". 0-12 Kent State put up the worst Offensive Statistics in all of FBS last year - dead last in both Offensive YPG, and Offensive YPP (Yards Per Play) in 2024. Kent State's 228 YPG and 3.8 YPG (again, dead last in all of FBS and built by a team that went 0-12) were slightly better than the Offensive stats put up by duhO$U on Saturday - 203 Offensive Yards and 3.7 yards per snap.... but now we're being told that it's "debatable" weather these stats are bottom of the barrel offensive stats??? And a PSU fan should be permitted to be "ridiculed" and "chastized" for stating immutable, undeniable facts that are not "debateable" in any fashion whatsoever.... and further should be prohibited from stating them as such because duhO$U poser-fans on a Penn State board don't like these facts being posted on a PSU Board. LMAO at how insanely lame this one is.....

welcome back bud. we missed you...

no we didn't.


GOD i love the ignore feature....

 

[PSUFTG]

It just feels like they’re the clear B1G favorite until someone (hopefully PSU) beats them.

They do such a great job recruiting and using the portal. They’ll have as much or more talent than every team they play.

Oh, I agree. Completely. And I fully expect OSU will be a damn tough out come November. (Didn't see the Texas game, so I couldn't speak to how they looked on Saturday)

That said, they do have a lot of question marks - which, given their history, they will turn most of them into exclamation points. But you never know. Look how quickly Michigan dropped off the cliff - so it does sometimes not work out, even for rather talented teams.

 

[Grant Green]

welcome back bud. we missed you...

no we didn't.


GOD i love the ignore feature....

It's never HARD to pick out BUSHWOOD. Dude has been OBSESSSED WITH OSU FOR YEARS!!

 

[PSUForever]

Yea that posters long screen name, ranting and raving at everyone who responds. Reminds me of someone from the past...

This OP is so over the top anti OSU that you can't actually take away anything meaningful that he posts. He (she?) is so desperate for OSU to fail that he totally ignores the fact that Texas is a great defense and Sayin is making his first start. He was from the same camp that gleefully wrote off OSU after the Michigan game last year.

 

[JoePaMajorCFBrecord409Ws]

This OP is so over the top anti OSU that you can't actually take away anything meaningful that he posts. He (she?) is so desperate for OSU to fail that he totally ignores the fact that Texas is a great defense and Sayin is making his first start. He was from the same camp that gleefully wrote off OSU after the Michigan game last year.

Lame excuses do not change the FACT that duhO$U posted Offensive numbers that were worse than the worst FBS team in FBS Football last year - 0-12 Kent State had the worst Offense in FBS last year - they averaged 228 yards of Offense Per Game and 3.8 yards per play last year. Those numbers are better than the 203 yards of Total Offense and 3.7 yards per play that duhO$U put up on Saturday. It's laughable to claim that those numbers are anything but what they are - bad... really bad - regardless of who they played.

 

[Erial_Lion]

So we've established that OSU struggled moving the ball against the #1 team in the country, in a game that they had a 2nd half lead and likely shut it down somewhat to protect that lead. Tell me why we should compare that performance (in a win against the #1 team in the country) to last year's Kent State team.

 

[Hotshoe]

No coach thinks that 89 rushing yards and 203 Total Offensive yards for an entire game is an abysmal offensive performance and production. Really??? Please list all these coaches that would be jumping for joy over these types of offensive numbers.

Not in a game like that, no.

 

[Hotshoe]

Lame excuses do not change the FACT that duhO$U posted Offensive numbers that were worse than the worst FBS team in FBS Football last year - 0-12 Kent State had the worst Offense in FBS last year - they averaged 228 yards of Offense Per Game and 3.8 yards per play last year. Those numbers are better than the 203 yards of Total Offense and 3.7 yards per play that duhO$U put up on Saturday. It's laughable to claim that those numbers are anything but what they are - bad... really bad - regardless of who they played.

It appears, you're the one that doesn't understand football or statistics. When #1 plays #2, rarely do you see normal or even good statistics. Why do you think QB statistics go down against good defenses. What don't you get?

 

[JoePaMajorCFBrecord409Ws]

So we've established that OSU struggled moving the ball against the #1 team in the country, in a game that they had a 2nd half lead and likely shut it down somewhat to protect that lead. Tell me why we should compare that performance (in a win against the #1 team in the country) to last year's Kent State team.

They "shut it down"? So they were trying to average a horrendously bad 3.7 yards per play? You do realize that duhO$U punted on 4 of their 5 second-half possessions, went 3-&-Out on 3 of those possessions (a 3 play 6 yard drive, a 3 play 7 yard drive and a 3 play 5 yard drive) and punted after a 5 play 11 yard possession on the other second half punt. BTW, what exactly did they "shut down" as their first-half possessions were every bit as inept as their second-half possessions??? The notion that this type of offensive ineptitude was intentional is beyond laughable. duh O$U's rushing and passing game was pathetic so how you're claiming that there was ever this powerful offensive performance that the duhO$U brain-trust decided to "shut down" is a rather self-gratuitous fabrication and delusion on your part. LMAO.

 

[nittanyfan333]

It's never HARD to pick out BUSHWOOD. Dude has been OBSESSSED WITH OSU FOR YEARS!!

And so dang confrontational and proud. To the point of it being sad…

 

[PSU87]

Over/under on when "shizholian" appears in this thread?

 

[Erial_Lion]

duh O$U's rushing and passing game was pathetic so how you're claiming that there was ever this powerful offensive performance that the duhO$U brain-trust decided to "shut down" is a rather self-gratuitous fabrication and delusion on your part. LMAO.

Reading comprehension Bushy...take a breath, read my post again, and give it another shot.

Another example of a "pathetic" offense putting up numbers worse than the worst FBS team over a full season (and worse than OSU on Saturday). I didn't feel Joe/MRob needed to feel bad about this win...

Penn State 17-10 Ohio State (Oct 8, 2005) Box Score - ESPN

Box score for the Penn State Nittany Lions vs. Ohio State Buckeyes NCAAF game from October 8, 2005 on ESPN. Includes all passing, rushing and receiving stats.

www.espn.com

 

[JoePaMajorCFBrecord409Ws]

It appears, you're the one that doesn't understand football or statistics. When #1 plays #2, rarely do you see normal or even good statistics. Why do you think QB statistics go down against good defenses. What don't you get?

Is that why LSU put up 352 yards of Offense against #4 Clemson and Miami put up 332 yards of Offense against #6 ND? Or unranked FSU put up 382 yards of Offense against #6 Alabama? Those are reduced numbers versus a top opponent, but characterizing a 203 yard (3.7 yard per play) Offensive performance as anything but bad is rather disingenuous.

 

[WDLion]

Yea that posters long screen name, ranting and raving at everyone who responds. Reminds me of someone from the past...

Bushy.

 

[JoePaMajorCFBrecord409Ws]

Reading comprehension Bushy...take a breath, read my post again, and give it another shot.

Another example of a "pathetic" offense putting up numbers worse than the worst FBS team over a full season (and worse than OSU on Saturday). I didn't feel Joe/MRob needed to feel bad about this win...

Penn State 17-10 Ohio State (Oct 8, 2005) Box Score - ESPN

Box score for the Penn State Nittany Lions vs. Ohio State Buckeyes NCAAF game from October 8, 2005 on ESPN. Includes all passing, rushing and receiving stats.

www.espn.com

Not sure what you're prattling about, but I'm still baffled how your post proves that duhO$U's Offensive performance was anything but really bad - 203 yards total offense, 89 yards rushing 3.7 yards per play. Reading comprehension moron - your post does not refute any of the FACTUAL objective posts that clearly demonstrate duhO$U's Offensive performance on Saturday was abysmally bad.

 

[Warlerski]

Not sure what you're prattling about, but I'm still baffled how your post proves that duhO$U's Offensive performance was anything but really bad - 203 yards total offense, 89 yards rushing 3.7 yards per play. Reading comprehension moron - your post does not refute any of the FACTUAL objective posts that clearly demonstrate duhO$U's Offensive performance on Saturday was abysmally bad.

Again, playing an elite D with many new faces in the first game. Give 3-4 weeks before passing judgement.