Waco on Netflix

J_Dee

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I didn't know that the Branch Davidians are still around. They're currently known as The Branch, The Lord Our Righteousness and have over 1,200 members.
 

KRJ1975

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Need to watch this one. I've watched the Ruby Ridge and OKC documentaries on Netflix and was fascinated by both - not the outcomes, the stories themselves.
 
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joeyrupption

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Same. Should they have been arrested? Yup.

Should they have been gunned down then burned alive? That's another question.
They should’ve built their building to confirm with the building code and they would’ve have a better chance after they lit it on fire. A building of that size should’ve been fully sprinklered, had areas of refuge, and adequate egress (i.e. not buried buses with no direct egress to the public way).

Before that, they shouldn’t have joined a cult and we’re probably much better off without them in our society.
 

BernieSadori

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They should’ve built their building to confirm with the building code and they would’ve have a better chance after they lit it on fire. A building of that size should’ve been fully sprinklered, had areas of refuge, and adequate egress (i.e. not buried buses with no direct egress to the public way).

Before that, they shouldn’t have joined a cult and we’re probably much better off without them in our society.
To think that the city of Waco could have brought them down from not getting permits nor passing inspections.

The buried bus was odd. David's tomb?
 

Tskware

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I felt like the whole show was trying to get the viewer to sympathize with a group of pedophile enablers and protectors. It turned out to be a Multi-Generational Darwin Award Winners Bonanza, IMO.
Same. Should they have been arrested? Yup.

Should they have been gunned down then burned alive? That's another question.

Didn't they try to arrest them and they refused to give up or come out? So then what?
 
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KopiKat

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Don't you just love a happy ending. It was win/win for everyone.
Disgusting. Absolutely disgusting on your part. Exceeded by Clinton and Reno's disgusting actions in those days. And when were those? A mere 5 or 6 weeks after he became President of the United States is when the Waco "siege" began. And why? Why the hell did the President of the United States order his top Federal policing and investigative services to make priority #1 a religious "cult" in Texas, when just 2 or 3 days before the World Trade Center had been attacked by a gang of terrorists led by Ramzi Yousef, the nephew Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. Or was it for that very reason? So Bill Clinton could shift the attention, dodge the responsibility? And when did Waco end? When did the Feds, the FBI, the ATF, Janet Reno et al? When did their careless management finally result in all those innocent children being burned alive? To their deaths?

IIRC it was only a day or two after Bill the Thrill Clinton obtained approval (UN or NATO) to begin his airstrikes in Kosovo.

And then what about the WTC? What about 2/26/93, when a 600 kg bomb was used in an attempt to blow up the WTC, and a paltry 6 American citizen were murdered? (and no, when they told you that 9/11 was the first attack on US soil since Pearl Harbor that was a lie). What did Bill Clinton do for those people and the hundred or more others who were badly injured? Other than literally letting one of the people responsible for the attacks go free a few days later . . . NOTHING. For the next 7 years and 11 months as President, not a goddammed thing. But he sure did make his mark in Waco, Texas, Glenn.

1993. What a catastrophe. So glad it gave you another movie to enjoy. Black Hawk Down is a great flick. Clinton sure knew how to set his priorities.
 

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They should’ve built their building to confirm with the building code and they would’ve have a better chance after they lit it on fire. A building of that size should’ve been fully sprinklered, had areas of refuge, and adequate egress (i.e. not buried buses with no direct egress to the public way).

Before that, they shouldn’t have joined a cult and we’re probably much better off without them in our society.
Decent points but the more likely culprit was probably all of that shiplap on the walls.
 

Glenn's Take

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Disgusting. Absolutely disgusting on your part. Exceeded by Clinton and Reno's disgusting actions in those days. And when were those? A mere 5 or 6 weeks after he became President of the United States is when the Waco "siege" began. And why? Why the hell did the President of the United States order his top Federal policing and investigative services to make priority #1 a religious "cult" in Texas, when just 2 or 3 days before the World Trade Center had been attacked by a gang of terrorists led by Ramzi Yousef, the nephew Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. Or was it for that very reason? So Bill Clinton could shift the attention, dodge the responsibility? And when did Waco end? When did the Feds, the FBI, the ATF, Janet Reno et al? When did their careless management finally result in all those innocent children being burned alive? To their deaths?

IIRC it was only a day or two after Bill the Thrill Clinton obtained approval (UN or NATO) to begin his airstrikes in Kosovo.

And then what about the WTC? What about 2/26/93, when a 600 kg bomb was used in an attempt to blow up the WTC, and a paltry 6 American citizen were murdered? (and no, when they told you that 9/11 was the first attack on US soil since Pearl Harbor that was a lie). What did Bill Clinton do for those people and the hundred or more others who were badly injured? Other than literally letting one of the people responsible for the attacks go free a few days later . . . NOTHING. For the next 7 years and 11 months as President, not a goddammed thing. But he sure did make his mark in Waco, Texas, Glenn.

1993. What a catastrophe. So glad it gave you another movie to enjoy. Black Hawk Down is a great flick. Clinton sure knew how to set his priorities.
If Bush would have been re-elected the same exact thing would have happened. It's just how you are choosing to view it.
 

KopiKat

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If Bush would have been re-elected the same exact thing would have happened. It's just how you are choosing to view it.
No, idiot . . you have no way of knowing if Waco would have happened under Bush. The WTC? Perhaps. Ignoring it? No. You just became the biggest political moron on this board.
 

KopiKat

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WTC 93: 30 days after inauguration

-That’s Bill Clinton’s fault.

9/11: 230 days after inauguration

-That’s Bill Clinton’s fault

Signed, Kopikat
Who exactly implied the 93 WTC attack was anybody's fault (other than you)? Do you read all political posts rev'd up on estrogen or have you watched dykes like Maddow and Don Lemon for so long that you just naturally lose your **** when you see or hear of Democrats confronted with the tiniest fraction of accountability?

But upon that INITIAL SURPRISE EVENT your beloved Bill Clinton did have opportunity to act. He did not. Instead, he ignored it for the next 95 months. But not before immediately falling prey upon citizens in Waco. His inaction most certainly contributed directly to 9-11. You can be annoyed by all of it, get your feelings hurt real awful bad if that's how your emotions work, but it won't stop all of it from being fact.
 

buckethead1978

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Why the hell did the President of the United States order his top Federal policing and investigative services to make priority #1 a religious "cult" in Texas, when just 2 or 3 days before the World Trade Center had been attacked by a gang of terrorists led by Ramzi Yousef, the nephew Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. Or was it for that very reason? So Bill Clinton could shift the attention, dodge the responsibility?

I’m sorry, I guess I read this line as you saying he used Waco to dodge being responsible for WTC 93
 

KopiKat

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Why the hell did the President of the United States order his top Federal policing and investigative services to make priority #1 a religious "cult" in Texas, when just 2 or 3 days before the World Trade Center had been attacked by a gang of terrorists led by Ramzi Yousef, the nephew Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. Or was it for that very reason? So Bill Clinton could shift the attention, dodge the responsibility?

I’m sorry, I guess I read this line as you saying he used Waco to dodge being responsible for WTC 93

You can keep pretending to be smart but it isn't going to magically curl out from the ether and become true, particularly when you are only revealing your own stupidity, inability to make distinct separate meanings, in the process.

Not being AT FAULT for the causal events.

BEING RESPONSIBLE for taking action in response to the event.

By revealing that you do not know the difference between these two conditions is all I need to know, fine arts major much?
 

trueblujr

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Need to watch this one. I've watched the Ruby Ridge and OKC documentaries on Netflix and was fascinated by both - not the outcomes, the stories themselves.
Didn’t have quite the violent ending but Wild Wild Country is also worth a watch if you haven’t seen it. It’s about the Rashnishi movement in the early 80’s in Oregon. Pretty crazy stuff.
 

BlueVelvetFog

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You can keep pretending to be smart but it isn't going to magically curl out from the ether and become true, particularly when you are only revealing your own stupidity, inability to make distinct separate meanings, in the process.

Not being AT FAULT for the causal events.

BEING RESPONSIBLE for taking action in response to the event.

By revealing that you do not know the difference between these two conditions is all I need to know, fine arts major much?
 
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Tskware

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I just watched Waco. Other than the the two books that it was based on, what are the best best histories of the the situation? Want to learn something.
 

BlueBallz_rivals30790

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I just watched Waco. Other than the the two books that it was based on, what are the best best histories of the the situation? Want to learn something.

there are quite a few documentaries on YouTube that I watch. Just type in Waco and/or David Koresh and a bunch will pop up.
 

BlueBallz_rivals30790

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Thanks for the reply, but was looking for a good book to read

Ah ok, here's a guy that was a survivor that was interesting. I started to listen but fell asleep. I usually throw in my ear buds and fall asleep to documentaries, usually serial killers, mass killers and crap like this. Did you know Timothy Mcveigh was there in Waco when all this was going down?