Waters Revisited

bethlehemfan

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As has been mentioned before, there are only 2 more at-large spots, not 4. Also there are both more teams and more power conference teams now than there were in the mid 2000s. So field size seems like a wash if not actually more difficult now.

Regarding transfer rules, I can certainly see a good argument that no sit out transfers would be helpful for building a depleted roster. However, Pike did not have this advantage any more than Waters did in the initial build phase; no sit out transfers did not exist generally until post covid.
The new rules can also deplete your roster as we’ve seen. Very dumb argument by op
 
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bac2therac

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He wasn't calling them out. If we are really taking his comment that he hopes fans stand on their own in the future instead of him having to walk down the sideline and get them to stand at a tipoff as a shot at fans, we are really thin skinned.

No he is bringing up something he doesn't have to

The rac is incredible..so they dont stand at the start..big deal..its actually the norm despite what he claimed

We are allowed to pushback..just who has thin skin here
 

bac2therac

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It was stated very plainly in the OP.

“Considering facilities, no portal, no NIL, etc, was he a better coach than we even realized? How does top 68 team success so quickly match up to the history of RU coaches?”

Being younger back then I don’t think I realized how well Waters did early on.

In defensecof Waters Mulcahy pissed on the hoops program diverting money to football..then forced Hill on him
 

dpwhite

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No he is bringing up something he doesn't have to

The rac is incredible..so they dont stand at the start..big deal..its actually the norm despite what he claimed

We are allowed to pushback..just who has thin skin here

I think an off handed comment on a podcast is a ridiculous thing to complain about, but that's just me.
 

RUsojo

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Just curious did you listen to the comment and how it was phrased or just read what was said in one of the threads?
I listened and his comment was a complaint iirc. I don’t feel strongly either way, again I was just surprised he did.