WCS potential in NBA

SloopJohnBee

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Get ready to unload. Low post count = poser = troll = not a true fan .... and all the other stuff that comes with it.

WCS is basically a one-dimensional player, i.e., defense. That alone (+ 7 feet) will get him drafted high, maybe lottery, maybe not. I will let you guys tell me where the mocks have him going. Will the NBA, in your opinion, be able to develop his offensive game to the point where he is a threat on both ends of the court?

At this point, I don't see him as being a difference-maker on offense at the next level. Can he make a career as a defensive specialist? Or, how long will he be given to develop his offensive game?
 
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He won't do much offensively in the NBA. He doesn't have the touch & his base is too weak.

He needs to be on a up-tempo team with a PG with great vision to get the most value out of him on O. That way he can get feed easy baskets either on fast breaks or on rim-rolls on the PnR.


Defensive Centers are valued highly, so he can definitely make it alone on that. Now, he'll be a much better PnR defender than a rim protector. His ability to move his feet is his best defensive attribute. He's getting overvalued right now with the top-6 projections, but he's a lottery talent. 9-14 is a good range for him.
 

wldktz1

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Originally posted by SloopJohnBee:
Get ready to unload. Low post count = poser = troll = not a true fan .... and all the other stuff that comes with it.

WCS is basically a one-dimensional player, i.e., defense. That alone (+ 7 feet) will get him drafted high, maybe lottery, maybe not. I will let you guys tell me where the mocks have him going. Will the NBA, in your opinion, be able to develop his offensive game to the point where he is a threat on both ends of the court?

At this point, I don't see him as being a difference-maker on offense at the next level. Can he make a career as a defensive specialist? Or, how long will he be given to develop his offensive game?

I don't really see you being a difference-maker at the next level either.
 

UKErik

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Ban a guy because he has a differing opinion? I think that's policy at the U of L boards
. Not here thankfully.

WCS is most definitely limited offensively. Will he get better? Maybe. Will it matter? Not if he becomes a dominant guy around the rim.

One thing about the NBA....no team is short of guys that want to shoot
. From that aspect, WCS will probably be a welcomed addition.

GBB!!!
 

TruBluCatFan

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Willie will have a long productive career in the NBA as a defensive C getting rebounds and blocking shots. He's never going to be a big time scorer but he won't have to be.
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marshalfan

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Willie will have a long successful career. This may be controversial on here but he has been slightly overrated this year. I would say Towns and the Harrisons are more valuable to this team.
 

Poetax

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Willie will go from practicing and going to school to practicing 24/7 in the pros. He will develope enough offense to be effective just wait and see.
 

W1LDCAT22

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Some of you act like retarded little girls, thinking you are the boss around here because someone doesn't agree with you or has a low post count. Get a life losers, for real. They probably bleed blue just as much as you. That's why I don't get this forum, some think they know it all and think they are cool because you have no life other than to sit on this forum and name-call. Get another hobby, jeez lmao. Hint, just because you have posted 7,312 times on here doesn't mean you have more basketball knowledge than the next. You must have been bullied in school, pathetic.
 

SloopJohnBee

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Originally posted by wldktz8:


I don't really see you being a difference-maker at the next level either.
Thank you for your feedback. I'm quite content at my current level.

BTW, you and your 300-something posts can suck it, poser!

 

Dutycat

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Jan 3, 2003
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Confession. I saw Willie play 5 times in high school. He played the same way then. He was the third leading scorer on the team and second leading rebounder. I asked myself what Cal saw in him. I wondered if he would ever get the skills to break the starting lineup. Now he is considered for Player of the Year. I was wrong. Guess that's why I'm not a scout.

Willie is Willie, and he is still building skills. What he needs most are basketball instincts. Given the huge improvement I have seen, just give him time.
 

JohnBlue

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The nba does a good job teaching offense to players so I doubt that is a concern. Noel wasn't exactly a huge scoring threat and had he not gotten injured might have been the top draft pick. For that matter Davis wasn't the scorer here that he is now and only averaged 5 more ppg than WCS is and Willie plays fewer min's with the platoon system.
 

John Frusciante

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Willie has good form on his jumper and foul shots; a few more years of practice and he will be a decent shooter. At his size all he really needs is a turn around jump shot.
 

Kats23

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I think it will be up to him. I've said all year he can look like the most dominant player on the court at times and others it looked like he's never played the game. I've always questioned his dedication to the game. His size and athleticisim gives him an advantage that most would kill for. I think he can be a solid NBA guy but I could easily see him coming back next year. I get the feeling being an adult and having adult responsibilities are not in Willie's fore front.
 

RKulmer

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Actually the guy that confuses me on our team is Booker. NBA 2 guards are a dime a dozen. Booker as a high 1st round?
Also, I want him back next year.
 

KMKAT

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I would like the option to be able to select WCS with my draft pick, especially if I'm Atlanta.

Now, would you take WCS or Kaminsky, the Player of the Year, and a guy who can shoot the 3 ball?

That is what a few teams will be up against this draft.
 

SloopJohnBee

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Originally posted by MdWIldcat55:
No offense, OP, but have you seen many NBA games? Guys who can defend, block shots, run the floor, are key in the NBA.
No offense taken. And the answer is no, I don't follow the NBA like I do CBB. Willie is an undeniable talent in the skills you mention. I was just curious about the perception of his long-term prospects, viewed by our esteemed fanbase.
 

Bluemantoo

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WCS will play 15+ years in the NBA (barring injury) because he is exactly what the guard oriented league is looking for. He doesn't need to score or demand shots.....just set screens, block shots, guard the pick & roll effectively, and rebound. He is a tailor-made big man for the current iteration of the NBA.
 

mjj_2K

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JaVale McGee is (or was) in his 9th year in the league, and someone was stupid enough to sign him to a contract that paid him over 10 million dollars a year- despite the fact that he is, from all indications, a complete idiot, and a complete pain in the *** to deal with.

WCS has a pretty bright NBA future. He might never be a star, or even a starter on a really good team, but he'll play an important role for someone.
 

cats4life

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offense is not the concern. the BIG concern is will he be physical enough to defend the post and REBOUND against grown @$$ men. so far he has proven to back down against physical teams which has me a little concerned for the tournament.
 

Catman100

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Originally posted by highlysuspicious:
offense is not the concern. the BIG concern is will he be physical enough to defend the post and REBOUND against grown @$$ men. so far he has proven to back down against physical teams which has me a little concerned for the tournament.

Ding Ding Ding...We have a winner. WCS is more finesse than brute. He plays weak at times and rarely tries to go right at a defender. I think he will get pushed around in the NBA as well.

I personally think another year at UK would be awesome for him. Improve his offensive game and his toughness. Do that and he is the number 1 pick next year.
 

fs-ripcord65

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What WCS needs is some low-post coaching -- which he will undoubtedly get in the NBA.

WCS is the best pure athlete to come out of college basketball in a long time -- even better than MKG. The guys that invest the money in WCS will make sure he's taught the low-post moves he'll need to be successful offensively.

Just MHO, of course.
 

blugrazz

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Willie came in making free throws last year. Then mid season this year he was on a surprising trajectory where he was making mid range jumpers and those little one handed throw shots. Now everything looks like a blind throw at the basket. Not sure what happened from mid-season but his offensive game is digressing. I really thought the individual hard work was paying off. He has at least hit an offensive celiing, temporary or permaent, I don't know.
 

tank2009

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Hes lackadaisical at times. Tyson Chandler is a fair comparison as far as skill set coming in. A lot in nba is timing and place where you end up. He gets with right team in right situation and he can be a nice player average close to double double, but with some teams he wont see much time and may develop slower. He is a very good college player when he is focused. Needs to finish shots at rim.
 

nssdigitalchumps

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Originally posted by SloopJohnBee:
Originally posted by MdWIldcat55:
No offense, OP, but have you seen many NBA games? Guys who can defend, block shots, run the floor, are key in the NBA.
No offense taken. And the answer is no, I don't follow the NBA like I do CBB. Willie is an undeniable talent in the skills you mention. I was just curious about the perception of his long-term prospects, viewed by our esteemed fanbase.
To put it in perspective, Dennis Rodman made a living from rebounding, especially towards the latter part of his career. WCS will do fine, especially for a 7-footer who can run the floor really well.
 

Bkocats

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Originally posted by nssdigitalchumps:

Originally posted by SloopJohnBee:

Originally posted by MdWIldcat55:
No offense, OP, but have you seen many NBA games? Guys who can defend, block shots, run the floor, are key in the NBA.
No offense taken. And the answer is no, I don't follow the NBA like I do CBB. Willie is an undeniable talent in the skills you mention. I was just curious about the perception of his long-term prospects, viewed by our esteemed fanbase.
To put it in perspective, Dennis Rodman made a living from rebounding, especially towards the latter part of his career. WCS will do fine, especially for a 7-footer who can run the floor really well.
and that right there is why he is so desirable. His offense doesn't HAVE To be elite - his defense is. He can guard the 1-5 and RUN; his hands are quick. When he makes the effort, he does a lot of little things that contribute; just not scoring.

I imagine he'll put on some bulk and develop at least a little bit of an offensive game at the next level - but he'll never be a major scorer.
 

rodserling

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If Willie could get that little soft jump hook that KAT uses so well in his arsenal, he might be player of the decade. Unfortunately, it is just brutal watching him try to make moves to get a shot off, only to see him throw it toward the backboard hoping for a offensive rebound.

I agree that Willie will be as successful in the league as Willie wants to be.

I put Marcus Lee in the same mold. But that is another thread.
 
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A center in NBA doesn't necessarily need any offense, they need to be really good defenders and good rebounders which WCS is... I may be off on this but I could see WCS as Rodman at next level very little offense but excellent defense and rebounding and it worked out just fine for Rodman.
 

STEVEGRO50

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Originally posted by SloopJohnBee:
Get ready to unload. Low post count = poser = troll = not a true fan .... and all the other stuff that comes with it.

WCS is basically a one-dimensional player, i.e., defense. That alone (+ 7 feet) will get him drafted high, maybe lottery, maybe not. I will let you guys tell me where the mocks have him going. Will the NBA, in your opinion, be able to develop his offensive game to the point where he is a threat on both ends of the court?

At this point, I don't see him as being a difference-maker on offense at the next level. Can he make a career as a defensive specialist? Or, how long will he be given to develop his offensive game?
I see his career ib the same light as D Liggins. A defensive specialist.
 

STEVEGRO50

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Originally posted by W1LDCAT22:
Some of you act like retarded little girls, thinking you are the boss around here because someone doesn't agree with you or has a low post count. Get a life losers, for real. They probably bleed blue just as much as you. That's why I don't get this forum, some think they know it all and think they are cool because you have no life other than to sit on this forum and name-call. Get another hobby, jeez lmao. Hint, just because you have posted 7,312 times on here doesn't mean you have more basketball knowledge than the next. You must have been bullied in school, pathetic.
^^^^^^ VERY MUCH AGREE^^^^^^^^^
 

ukbowl2006

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Rebound, show on the pick and roll, run the floor, dunk. Barring injury, he'll have a nice long career in the NBA.
 

Anon1636989421

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Bill Russell the former Boston Celtic Center won several championships as a shot blocker defensive specialist. Willie's offensive game is already better than Bills IMHO. I expect Willie to be a very good pro. My only concern is that he disappears but that is true with a lot of pro athletes.
 

John Frusciante

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Originally posted by Lra1:
Originally posted by Lra1:
Bill Russell the former Boston Celtic Center won several championships as a shot blocker defensive specialist. Willie's offensive game is already better than Bills IMHO.
Um, no; better go watch some film. But, I do agree that Willie will be a very good pro.
 

ManitouDan

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to Dutycat - last sentence says " give him time " Dude time is up .. I want to succeed in the league but we need him to be the good WIllie these next 2-3 weeks .. thats the only time left as a Wildcat .
 

brianpoe

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Originally posted by ccukuk:
And he has lots of tattoos like rodman
This is all they have in common at this point. If WCS is ever able to maintain 1/3 of Rodman's intensity an entire game he will be great. I think he would also look spectacular in a wedding dress as well.
 

KyCat

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Originally posted by JohnBlue_:
The nba does a good job teaching offense to players so I doubt that is a concern. Noel wasn't exactly a huge scoring threat and had he not gotten injured might have been the top draft pick. For that matter Davis wasn't the scorer here that he is now and only averaged 5 more ppg than WCS is and Willie plays fewer min's with the platoon system.
+1
 
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Bill Russell is considered one of the games greatest players. In his early NBA tears all he did was rebound and play defense. He slowly developed an offensive game and was a complete player by the end of his career. I expect WCS to follow the same path.