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KozmasAgain

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It’s funny the doom and gloom fans talking about our situation as if Louisville is the only program going through changes. Clemson lost their long time defensive coordinator ( who was being paid 2.5 million a year) to Oklahoma. They also lost their President who is going to Miami to be their President. Norte Dame lost their football coach which was a huge surprise to everyone. There are still a lot of changes being made elsewhere so we’re not the only ones. Personally I think the changes being made at Louisville are a good opportunity for us to correct the mistakes we made last time.
 

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Looks like FSU may have stabilized with this incoming recruiting class

noted regarding the fanbase
 
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I believe the UofL is going through more than just changes though.

There is legit question as to how much value sports is going to receive moving forward from whoever ends up in charge, and how competitive the top sports programs are going to be able to be moving forward.

It just goes a little beyond the standard coaching staff questions here.
 

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It’s funny the doom and gloom fans talking about our situation as if Louisville is the only program going through changes. Clemson lost their long time defensive coordinator ( who was being paid 2.5 million a year) to Oklahoma. They also lost their President who is going to Miami to be their President. Norte Dame lost their football coach which was a huge surprise to everyone. There are still a lot of changes being made elsewhere so we’re not the only ones. Personally I think the changes being made at Louisville are a good opportunity for us to correct the mistakes we made last time.

I think we need to FARRRR all those sonsabeyitches on the board.
 

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The ACC sucks. Football sucks. Basketball sucks (who would have ever thought that). After K retires Duke is probably going to take a big step back. And Louisville is contributing to it sucking - seriously it's f'ing embarrassing.

Has the ACC ever improved a program? Every program that has moved from the Big East to the ACC has taken a step back since moving down. YAY TV contracts & YAY more money, I guess.
 
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The ACC sucks. Football sucks. Basketball sucks (who would have ever thought that). After K retires Duke is probably going to take a big step back. And Louisville is contributing to it sucking - seriously it's f'ing embarrassing.

Has the ACC ever improved a program? Every program that has moved from the Big East to the ACC has taken a step back since moving down. YAY TV contracts & YAY more money, I guess.
Well, I think Pitt benefitted this year. I think when we joined the ACC, we would be celebrating at least a division title by now.
 

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Well, I think Pitt benefitted this year. I think when we joined the ACC, we would be celebrating at least a division title by now.

They had a good season, finally, after many years/many bad seasons in the ACC. They had some comparable seasons in the Big East. However I predict they'll get spanked like Katina Powell at a Dixie Highway White Castle at 3am in their bowl game.
 

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The ACC sucks. Football sucks. Basketball sucks (who would have ever thought that). After K retires Duke is probably going to take a big step back. And Louisville is contributing to it sucking - seriously it's f'ing embarrassing.

Has the ACC ever improved a program? Every program that has moved from the Big East to the ACC has taken a step back since moving down. YAY TV contracts & YAY more money, I guess.
Solution? Would you prefer going back to the Big East? I sure as hell don't. For all of it's shortcomings, at least the ACC is one of the Big Five major conferernces and we are part and parcel of that. A far cry from where we were prior to our membership in the ACC.

GO CARDS!!!
 
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Solution? Would you prefer going back to the Big East? I sure as hell don't. For all of it's shortcomings, at least the ACC is one of the Big Five major conferernces and we are part and parcel of that. A far cry from where we were prior to our membership in the ACC.

GO CARDS!!!

The solution is we handle our own ****, not lose basketball games to the likes of Furman, DePaul, and WKU within a month and not lose football games to the Cayuts by 30+ year after year. The solution is to be part of the solution, not contribute to the mediocrity. The ACC is a P5 conference but acts like the Sunbelt and UofL is part of it.
 
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The solution is we handle our own ****, not lose basketball games to the likes of Furman, DePaul, and WKU within a month and not lose football games to the Cayuts by 30+ year after year. The solution is to be part of the solution, not contribute to the mediocrity. The ACC is a P5 conference but acts like the Sunbelt and UofL is part of it.
Are you suggesting new coaches? If so, whom would you suggest we go after? Just asking because I'm not sure that is a solution, but I could be wrong.

GO CARDS!!!
 
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It is a good opportunity. The ACC schools aren’t fully invested in their sports programs. Time is now to find leadership to take Louisville to next level. It all starts with getting the best players. It is really that simple.

Only the women’s side they have really good players and good coaching takes them higher. There is no secret sauce.
 

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Are you suggesting new coaches? If so, whom would you suggest we go after? Just asking because I'm not sure that is a solution, but I could be wrong.

GO CARDS!!!

Excellent question. I'm not an athletic director, but IMO the program badly needs stability. Everyone loves to FARRRR the coach every week but you better have a better option ready to roll, IMO, and right now is NOT the time for that. Losing to UK by 30+ AGAIN aside (with respect to the elder Satterfield's passing), I felt this young football team was very close to having an impressive win total and I think we're looking at 9-3 next season. Mack needs more time as well, the basketball program is in absolute chaos. The way they are playing they may not make the NIT this year; I don't know if the loss of Tyra is affecting Mack's desire to coach at Louisville and that's something that has to play out.

To answer your question directly - Louisville simply needs to do better; IMO all the pieces are there and Louisville needs to use them better. As someone else said, organizations win championships and this organization is in absolute chaos right now. The boat needs to stop rocking and it all has to play out.

Related - this whole "play faster" thing Mack is doing seems contrived and gimmicky to me. Just silly, it's not who he is. With a poor shooting team, all this has done is effectively give the other team more possessions to score on Louisville. Effectively it's resulting in more turnovers.
 
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Back to the point made in the OP .............is it just some coincidence that Miami, FSU, and even Clemson are struggling in ACC football? Or is it just another coincidence that over the same time period that UNC, UVA, Syracuse and UL are struggling in ACC basketball?

The ACC is not the only conference that has experienced some traditional members struggling in those sports where they dominated for so long. Texas, TCU and TT in Big 12 football, USC and Washington in PAC12 football, Florida and LSU in SEC football, or Nebraska in Big 10 football? Look at UK and Duke last year in basketball.

These are strange and volatile times, but it would be a huge mistake to believe the aforementioned schools and conferences will not recover over time.
 

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Solution? Would you prefer going back to the Big East? I sure as hell don't. For all of it's shortcomings, at least the ACC is one of the Big Five major conferernces and we are part and parcel of that. A far cry from where we were prior to our membership in the ACC.

GO CARDS!!!
As with all things lately, my attitude is changing on the ACC

ALL the ACC has “done” for “us” is providing “more” money.

Money that you nor I or any fans EVER see. In fact, the ACC COST us more money than ever for tickets.

I guess we get a more meaningful “meaningless” bowl game. o_O But so what? If it ain’t the FF, it ain’t chit. Welcome to P5

What has this “extra money” done for us exactly?

What has it done for BC? WF? GT? Etc….

We have joined the perineal 45 P5 “chasers” who have been getting tons of money for years, and are no closer to catching the top 20 than ever.

I’m about over spending more of MY money while UL is making more money.

Money that’s done nothing for us, and historically speaking, done nothing to make the “chasers” any “better”.
 

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The ACC sucks. Football sucks. Basketball sucks (who would have ever thought that). After K retires Duke is probably going to take a big step back. And Louisville is contributing to it sucking - seriously it's f'ing embarrassing.

Has the ACC ever improved a program? Every program that has moved from the Big East to the ACC has taken a step back since moving down. YAY TV contracts & YAY more money, I guess.
So are you somewhat disappointed with U of L's current bball situation? Somewhat hard to tell. ;)
 

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So are you somewhat disappointed with U of L's current bball situation? Somewhat hard to tell. ;)

I'm a reasonable fan, in my view. I'm fine with Satterfield. I'm fine with Mack. I was fine with last year's struggles in an unusual year. But losing to Furman, DePaul, & WKU, all within a month of each other? Louisville has to do better. Jurich seemed to send Petrino off a cliff and I'm concerned the loss of Tyra may do/is doing the same thing here.
 

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btw,

The average tenure of all 348 Division I ADs is 6.83 years, down from about 7 in 2016. Since January of 2016, over 18 percent (64) of all Division I AD jobs have turned over, and there are competing arguments on if that number will climb even higher in the future.

and

The American Council on Education’s (ACE) report, “The American College President 2017,” found that college presidents served an average of 6.5 years in that position compared to a 7-year average in 2011 and 8.5 year average in 2006. According to American Association of State Colleges and Universities (AASCU) data covering the past five years, presidential tenure lasted four years or less for 44.9 percent of member institutions. Only 26.9 percentage lasted 10 years or more.
 

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And in other news, it looks like Satt is using Indeed to find a recruiting Coordinator.

not a good look guys
 

KozmasAgain

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I think the problem is in house but I think it has to do with the BOT. I looked at sUcK to see who was on their BOT and all of them were sUcK alum except for one. As much as I hate it I think that is smart. They are proud alum who want their program to do better.
When I looked at the Louisville BOT only one was a Louisville alum. Why don’t we have more Louisville alum on our BOT? We know that Bevin shook things up with his appointments to the BOT. Maybe it is time to shake the BOT up and put pro Louisville people in there.
 

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I’m not totally up on how you get appointed to the BoT but pretty sure “we” don’t get a say in it.

So uk has one non uk member

We only have one UL alum on ours.

It seems our demise is being pushed by some very influential people.

I don’t know if this is a conspiracy, but if it’s not? It missed a good chance to be.
 
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I’m not totally up on how you get appointed to the BoT but pretty sure “we” don’t get a say in it.

So uk has one non uk member

We only have one UL alum on ours.

It seems our demise is being pushed by some very influential people.

I don’t know if this is a conspiracy, but if it’s not? It missed a good chance to be.
Trust your instincts probably