We’re on the cusp of a national outrage that transcends the old political labels

moe

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Let's see what some conservatives have to say about Trump's unlawful and unconstitutional admin.

We’re on the cusp of a national outrage that transcends the old political labels

Here’s the National Review’s Andrew McCarthy:

“Trump intends to illustrate that he has amassed uncheckable power. That is, having extirpated what made the Republican Party conservative and constitutionalist, and with Congress thus no obstacle (at least for the next 21 months), the president wants it known that such constitutional constraints on executive power as courts and due process are no longer operative. …
‘Constitutional crisis’ is a phrase often invoked and rarely accurate. But now, we actually have one: the evisceration of due process, the justice for all without which we can’t have the liberty in the republic to which we pledge allegiance. But as ever, it is erupting within our clown show.”
Here’s Andrew Sullivan:

“If the administration had wanted to, they could have hailed the quiet border and focussed on deporting illegal immigrants by usual means. But nah. Trump decided he wants to go after legal immigrants and even legal permanent residents who have been charged with no crimes or immigration violations — because they have criticized a foreign country, Israel. He’s deploying a McCarthyite 1952 law to target any legal noncitizen who has criticized or demonstrated against the Jewish state’s wiping of Gaza off the face of the earth, proudly gutting the First Amendment for no good reason.
Wait, there’s more. Trump has also abandoned habeas corpus and due process by invoking the 1798 Alien Enemies Act to seize mere suspects off the streets and transport them instantly to a terrifying foreign jail in El Salvador. The law has only been used twice before in wartime, and, ahem, we are not at war. Anyone with brown skin and the wrong kind of tattoo is therefore now at risk of being carted off to torture by the US government, with absolutely no safeguards that they have gotten the right people. Or do you think that an administration that confuses billions with millions, and puts classified intelligence on a Signal app, is incapable of making an error?

We therefore have no way of knowing if a makeup artist who legally sought asylum was rightly grabbed off the street to face certain rape and violence. And when Tom Homan was asked about due process in this case, he actually answered: “What due process did Laken Riley get?” Unbelievable that this thug is in charge of anything.
Then the utter indecency. These wannabe fascists publicly delight and revel in their acts of domination in a manner that even despotic regimes avoid.”
Here’s The New York Times’s Bret Stephens:

“I have two large — maybe three large — objections to what is going on. Even when the administration does what I think is the right thing, it does it in the wrong way. The second thing is that some of what it is doing — I’m thinking of the case of Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia, the migrant who was unlawfully deported, and whom the administration refuses to bring back in compliance with the court order — I think is unconstitutional and un-American.
And I think that there is a mean-spiritedness of vulgarity that sits outside of the spirit of the America that I love. So those three things together do a lot to obscure the increasingly dwindling number of policy decisions of which I say: OK, yeah, that’s what I might’ve done, or what I wish I would’ve seen done by another administration.”
Here’s the American Enterprise Institute’s Matthew Continetti:

“There is no policy. No plan. No logic. There is only Donald Trump.”
Here’s The Wall Street Journal’s editorial board:

“Does President Trump want to force a showdown at the Supreme Court over executive power and the judiciary? That’s the way it looks from the way the Administration is handling the case of deportee Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia. …[who] was deported without due process….Mr. Trump would be wise to settle all of this by quietly asking Mr. Bukele to return Mr. Abrego Garcia, who has a family in the U.S. But the President may be bloody-minded enough that he wants to show the judiciary who’s boss.”
Here’s The Times’s David Brooks:




“Over the centuries, people built the sinews of civilization: Constitutions to restrain power, international alliances to promote peace, legal systems to peacefully settle disputes, scientific institutions to cure disease, news outlets to advance public understanding, charitable organizations to ease suffering, businesses to build wealth and spread prosperity, and universities to preserve, transmit and advance the glories of our way of life. These institutions make our lives sweet, loving and creative, rather than nasty, brutish and short.
Trumpism is threatening all of that. It is primarily about the acquisition of power — power for its own sake. It is a multifront assault to make the earth a playground for ruthless men, so of course any institutions that might restrain power must be weakened or destroyed. Trumpism is about ego, appetite and acquisitiveness and is driven by a primal aversion to the higher elements of the human spirit — learning, compassion, scientific wonder, the pursuit of justice.
So far, we have treated the various assaults of President Trump and the acolytes in his administration as a series of different attacks. In one lane they are going after law firms. In another they savaged U.S.A.I.D. In another they’re attacking our universities. On yet another front they’re undermining NATO and on another they’re upending global trade.
But that’s the wrong way to think about it. These are not separate battles. This is a single effort to undo the parts of the civilizational order that might restrain Trump’s acquisition of power. And it will take a concerted response to beat it back.
So far, each sector Trump has assaulted has responded independently — the law firms seek to protect themselves, the universities, separately, try to do the same. Yes, a group of firms banded together in support of the firm Perkins Coie, but in other cases it’s individual law firms trying to secure their separate peace with Trump. Yes, Harvard eventually drew a line in the sand, but Columbia cut a deal. This is a disastrous strategy that ensures that Trump will trample on one victim after another. He divides and conquers.
Slowly, many of us are realizing that we need to band together. But even these efforts are insular and fragmented. Several members of the Big Ten conference are working on forming an alliance to defend academic freedom. Good. But that would be 18 schools out of roughly 4,000 degree-granting American colleges and universities.
So far, the only real hint of something larger — a mass countermovement — has been the rallies led by Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. But this, too, is an ineffective way to respond to Trump; those partisan rallies make this fight seem like a normal contest between Democrats and Republicans.
What is happening now is not normal politics. We’re seeing an assault on the fundamental institutions of our civic life, things we should all swear loyalty to — Democrat, independent or Republican.
It’s time for a comprehensive national civic uprising. It’s time for Americans in universities, law, business, nonprofits and the scientific community, and civil servants and beyond to form one coordinated mass movement. Trump is about power. The only way he’s going to be stopped is if he’s confronted by some movement that possesses rival power.”
 

DvlDog4WVU

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Let's see what some conservatives have to say about Trump's unlawful and unconstitutional admin.

We’re on the cusp of a national outrage that transcends the old political labels

Here’s the National Review’s Andrew McCarthy:


Here’s Andrew Sullivan:


Here’s The New York Times’s Bret Stephens:


Here’s the American Enterprise Institute’s Matthew Continetti:


Here’s The Wall Street Journal’s editorial board:


Here’s The Times’s David Brooks:
There are roughly 40-50 million illegals in our country. Biden let in 10 million on his own.

We have a national emergency on our hands.

We know at least 4 million are receiving financial assistance from the USG. Illegals are bankrupting our country’s social safety nets which are depended on by millions of Americans.

Illegals repress wages for American workers

Illegals take jobs from American workers

40-50 million people live somewhere. Home prices for starter homes have skyrocketed because of this. The generation looking to buy homes are adversely impacted by this.

We know illegals were illegally voting in our elections adversely impacting for every vote an equal amount American citizens, nullifying the one true thing that makes us American.

Illegals are funding cartels which are waging chemical warfare on our country.

Illegals are being human trafficked into modern day slavery as sex workers.

There are so many illegals, our courts are overrun and the due process route cannot be achieved. Moreover, they’re not entitled to due process.

These truths are stubborn facts. Trump was elected with a mandate by the people to resolve this issue. I’m sorry, but no one gives a **** about your article excerpts, because those authors have a duty to this nation they’ve forgot.
 

atlkvb

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There are roughly 40-50 million illegals in our country. Biden let in 10 million on his own.

We have a national emergency on our hands.

We know at least 4 million are receiving financial assistance from the USG. Illegals are bankrupting our country’s social safety nets which are depended on by millions of Americans.

Illegals repress wages for American workers

Illegals take jobs from American workers

40-50 million people live somewhere. Home prices for starter homes have skyrocketed because of this. The generation looking to buy homes are adversely impacted by this.

We know illegals were illegally voting in our elections adversely impacting for every vote an equal amount American citizens, nullifying the one true thing that makes us American.

Illegals are funding cartels which are waging chemical warfare on our country.

Illegals are being human trafficked into modern day slavery as sex workers.

There are so many illegals, our courts are overrun and the due process route cannot be achieved. Moreover, they’re not entitled to due process.

These truths are stubborn facts. Trump was elected with a mandate by the people to resolve this issue. I’m sorry, but no one gives a **** about your article excerpts, because those authors have a duty to this nation they’ve forgot.
This excellent post will go unresponded to by that bot @moe. Know why not? Because it's the Truth and @moe doesn't know what that means, much less what it is. :rolleyes:

Well stated @DvlDog4WVU .
 

atlkvb

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Let's see what some conservatives have to say about Trump's unlawful and unconstitutional admin.
You have had zero to say...I repeat ZERO while this country was being flooded with illegal aliens during the past 4 years! Let's see how you answer why now, all of a sudden...you're so concerned about "due process" for folks who are here illegally and deserve no "due process" while they're in direct violation of our Laws? 🤔

@moe
Ha...I'm not going to answer that! Look, I'm trying to get rid of Trump...any way I can. It's actually true I didn't give a rip about illegals "following the Law" coming here, but now that they're here, I'm all for making sure these criminals get all the "due process" we can ***** about if it helps get rid of Trump!

Well that explains your silence over illegal criminals from around the world roaming our streets committing crimes and killing Americans. With Patriots like you @moe , how could anyone ever expect our country to survive? 🫤

@moe
Who cares if it doesn't atl? I sure as Hell don't.

 
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BigLickMountee

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Let's see what some conservatives have to say about Trump's unlawful and unconstitutional admin.

We’re on the cusp of a national outrage that transcends the old political labels

Here’s the National Review’s Andrew McCarthy:


Here’s Andrew Sullivan:


Here’s The New York Times’s Bret Stephens:


Here’s the American Enterprise Institute’s Matthew Continetti:


Here’s The Wall Street Journal’s editorial board:


Here’s The Times’s David Brooks:
Yell louder, I can’t hear you.
 

Gunny46

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Let's see what some conservatives have to say about Trump's unlawful and unconstitutional admin.

We’re on the cusp of a national outrage that transcends the old political labels

Here’s the National Review’s Andrew McCarthy:


Here’s Andrew Sullivan:


Here’s The New York Times’s Bret Stephens:


Here’s the American Enterprise Institute’s Matthew Continetti:


Here’s The Wall Street Journal’s editorial board:


Here’s The Times’s David Brooks:


You voted and defended assholesthat were proffiting off of running deadly drugs, weapons, and conducting human trafficking with terrorist groups. It's going to come out and your crying isn't going to stop that. Even the "Joooos" you hate are working with Jordan and Saudi Arabia.







Even Muslim Countries that know Trump has their back are putting an end to it.



Jordan outlaws Muslim Brotherhood, confiscates assets and offices​

 
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atlkvb

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Yell louder, I can’t hear you.
The amuzing thing about @moe is he has virtually no idea how hypocritical not to mention uninformed he is the more he posts trying to make Trump out to be some type of authoritarian "Dictator". :rolleyes:

Thank Almighty God the American people not only support Trump's efforts to deport these illegals, they don't think he's moving fast enough!

Majority of Voters Support Deporting All Illegal Immigrants, New Poll Shows

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Nearly six in ten voters, including a third of Democrats and nine in ten Republicans, endorse a hypothetical mass deportation effort, according to a CBS News poll. A similarly sized majority would be in favor of deploying local law enforcement to apprehend illegal immigrants. About under half of registered voters believe it would be a good idea to erect large government detention centers to process illegal immigrants for potential deportation.

An Axios poll from April similarly found that 51 percent of Americans (including 42 percent of Democrats) say they would support mass deportations of illegal aliens. There was also approval of certain Trump-proposed immigration restrictions, such as the elimination of birthright citizenship.

Look, I got re-elected despite an all-out Democrat effort to prevent it, promising the "largest mass deportation in American history"! No one has called me up saying "never mind DJT, let 'em all stay."

Word DJT...no one is demanding "due process" for these criminals either...except Leftist bots like @moe :rolleyes:

@moe
I love illegal immigrants, especially the ones who kill Americans.

You're not only a bot @moe , but a seriously sick bot to boot! 😏