For obvious reasons. But Beamer said Doty is #2, which would be an abysmal situation to be in. I can only assume he’ll rapidly fall down the depth chart in preseason practice camp.
We better hope Sellers never goes down
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Did Noland transfer in after spring ball? I dont remember. That would explain it if hes not just given the backup spot.
Edit: Had to look it up. (Stupid memory) He did take part in spring practice.
On its face, this looks bad if a known commodity like Doty beat him out. Maybe its just a motivational thing? Maybe he came in just assuming he'd be handed things?
This is a nice bone for Doty, nothing more.
Seriously? Isn't this a concern with any starting QB for just about any team in America?
Yes, for any team entering fall practice with a WR as the backup QB.
One can assume that's at least partially it. A WR cannot possibly be our legitimate #2 QB. I would have to say there's < 5% chance he starts the season as the #2 QB, but I don't like the percentage being even that high.
That's the thing. No matter about the other guys, we KNOW Doty isn't an SEC QB, on any level. Nice guy, great Gamecock, team player and all that rah rah stuff. He's just not a QB.
How many teams are going into fall camp with a WR at backup QB?
Can't be that many. My guess would be one.
Very few other teams in America have a WR as a backup qb in any capacity, much less as number two qb. Of course, this is a program that had to put a grad assistant on the coaching staff in at qb.
I'd say more concern is warranted at Carolina than at just about any other team in America.
Just depends on how you want to spin the narrative.
You could say our back up QB had a highly decorated High School career, won the State's Mr. Football award as a Senior QB at Myrtle Beach HS, led Myrtle Beach to a HS State championship as a Junior QB, has has previous starting experience, started 7 games at QB in his career, experienced player, in his 6th year with the team, , had time at WR before, well versed in the system, was 10-12 for 82 yards and a touchdown in the spring game as the starter for the garnet team.
Coaches who were there for all spring practices have confidence, what is the issue? The very talented true freshman guy Cutter Woods is developing as well.
I think our backup QB situation is comparable to most. You forget a lot of backup QB's transfer now after the season in this portal era anyways, teams are not as stacked as you think.
The fact is so well versed in the system which is enhanced by his time at WR is a big advantage, imho. I want a backup QB who will go out there not make mistakes, make the correct reads, and give us a chance to win, and Doty will do that.
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lol, wow, that is some pretty heavy spin there. In no way on earth is our backup situation comparable to almost any other team out there. Find me another major team entering fall practice with a WR at backup QB who hasn't taken a meaningful snap at QB since 2021. Just one team. There's 130+ FBS teams, so if our situation is comparable to most, you should be able to come up with a few examples pretty quick.
And, frankly, he's not even a good WR, so I don't know how being a WR enhances his ability at QB.
He should know the system by now, so I guess I give you that much.
My narrative has no spin. Our backup QB is a WR.
Now, obviously, we all know Doty won't sniff the backup QB position by the time the season rolls around. My OP was a bit joke-y in that sense. But I guess I should have expected some to leap to Doty's defense as if he's an all-time legendary player.
I don't think he is all time legendary player, but I'm fine with him as the backup QB, and I don't know how that correlates him to me thinking he is all time legendary player.
I don't think he dead weight or a wasted scholarship and what other negative things you have said about him in the past.
I did the opposite of you and gave a positive spin vs your negative spins.
I think he is the backup QB at the start of the season, but fall camp has to play out. I'm high on Cutter Woods but think the staff will give him time to develop. Air Noland looked like he needed a lot of work from what I saw in the spring game but maybe he had a bad game, and gets the # 2 job, very highly recruited QB for sure.
I think a lot of teams are starting the season with a backup QB that have never taken a meaningful snap before for that team.
For his time in WR, I think it helps to have more perspective, he has seen the playbook from that WR viewpoint and also from the QB perspective.
I will add, hopefully Sellers doesn't get hurt and stays healthy and we never get a firm answer, to our debate, LOL
He's the only QB on the roster after LS16 with SEC starting experience. No one else has taken a snap. If Sellers goes down in a game, I know who I'd rather have in there, and it isn't one of the guys who's never taken a college snap. As the other guys get chances to gain experience, they may, and probably will surpass him.
It also could be to keep the guys from transferring. If Doty is no 2, then neither Noland nor Woods is. If one or the other were chosen, there is a higher chance the one not chosen leaves. However, if they are both equally worthless, we get some more time to cultivate them into the QB we're looking for to replace Sellers, who is almost certainly gone after this season.
It also could be to keep the guys from transferring. If Doty is no 2, then neither Noland nor Woods is. If one or the other were chosen, there is a higher chance the one not chosen leaves. However, if they are both equally worthless, we get some more time to cultivate them into the QB we're looking for to replace Sellers, who is almost certainly gone after this season.
It's finally making sense why Doty is hanging around. He has a legitimate chance to see the field in the event that something happens to Sellers. Of course, none of us want that, but Doty was looking like he was going to be the starting QB going into the 2021 season and has some SEC starts under his belt. It beats nothing. Noland shouldn't be handed anything just because he transferred from Ohio St.
Tip of the cap to Doty, nothing else.
While it’s true that Doty is the only one with ‘SEC experience’, that experience is the same reason he hasn’t had any since. Announcement aside, Beamer’s not stupid.
While it’s true that Doty is the only one with ‘SEC experience’, that experience is the same reason he hasn’t had any since. Announcement aside, Beamer’s not stupid.
I'm not concerned because, well, I'm not concerned.
I thought Doty would be good coming out of Myrtle Beach but I missed on that one. If he’s the #2 guy we are definitely in trouble if Sellers goes down. Need to move on from him and give these other guys in-game / practice reps to prepare for 2026 when or if Sellers declares for the draft.
Was told today that it’s because Noland has a thumb injury right now. Hence Doty is the 2 ‘right now.’
I think he's fine as backup. I don't think any team expects the backup to be on par with the starter. Doty has played a lot of football. And he will be buying time for the other new guys to develop. It's going to take more than 15 minutes for new guys to become competent to take snaps in the SEC.
He might have been, but the foot injury set him back. He is such a good athlete that wr was a way to get him on the field. I think he would be a decent backup, if needed.
Of course not. I think a good, minimal baseline expectation, though, is that the backup QB be a QB.
I love this rationalizing that "well, since the backup QB isn't expected to be as good as the starter, you can put any hack back there and it doesn't matter."
Shoot, if it's completely irrelevant, why not just make the 3rd string punter the backup?
And I don't buy the "Doty has SEC starting QB experience". That was eons ago, and he wasn't good at it. I'll take an inexperienced but talented freshman QB over a sparsely used QB-turned-WR who was not good when he played at QB a few years ago.
Shoot, if it's completely irrelevant, why not just make the 3rd string punter the backup?
And I don't buy the "Doty has SEC starting QB experience". That was eons ago, and he wasn't good at it. I'll take an inexperienced but talented freshman QB over a sparsely used QB-turned-WR who was not good when he played at QB a few years ago.
That was my initial thought when I saw this thread. Obviously, every team in America hopes its starting QB does not go down. In our case, seeing that our pass protection has been among the poorest in the nation during the past couple of seasons, it makes standing pat on our OL coaching a head scratcher. We will just have to go to war with what we got.
58% career completion percentage.EDIT: oops...57% (actually 56.7, but I'm rounding up).
Is Newton seriously your clincher argument??
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In the same way that Bruce Jenner is a woman, I guess.
I was on my school's soccer team in 7th grade, so I guess I can tell people I'm a soccer player.
He WAS a qb. I find it disturbing that there is so little depth in the qb room that a WR would ever be listed as #2 qb.