we comin' -- thoughts

[Soonerborn1959]

Read, didn't say that. Beating better teams should be rewarded. If the 2 best teams in the nation are in the same division and demo their excellence against the rest of the schedule, why not put both in?

Just to add why this thought process is wrong, Alabama was being given a path to the playoffs by virtue of a close loss to your Tigers but yet had not beaten anyone worth a pulse. You think a team deserves to get in based on that? Subjective thinking is what is wrong with this system and don’t kid yourself had they got in with a win over Auburn the name is what would have got them in not the body of work.

 

[Belldozer1]

LSU fans are cracking me up on these message boards already today. Some are posting how they just couldn’t sleep last night, already up going through their pre game rituals, butterflies, as if they’re the ones suiting up LOL. Win or lose I’m still going to be a fully functioning human being, I have a feeling if they lose it may be catastrophic for their fanbase.

 

[owenfieldreams]

LSU fans are cracking me up on these message boards already today. Some are posting how they just couldn’t sleep last night, already up going through their pre game rituals, butterflies, as if they’re the ones suiting up LOL. Win or lose I’m still going to be a fully functioning human being, I have a feeling if they lose it may be catastrophic for their fanbase.

That's because they are not old money. This is a whole new experience for them.

 

[psybj]

t this committee has made conference championships meaningless by putting in 2 non conf champs who didn’t even play for that conference championship already. The CCG should be the first step in qualifying you for the playoffs.

Everyone whined and bitched about the B12 not having one and even said “ Until they play one they shouldn’t get in as the 13th data point is the tie breaker”. My how that view changed by Ohio St and Bama fans a few years later. Did you complain about the B12 early on because if you did that makes you a hypocrite.

Should the best teams get in or should the teams that earned their way by playing and beating quality opponents get in?

The estimation of which are the best teams would best be left to bookies, they are right or they are broke. Any time you think they have the wrong team favorite you can bet your house on it, in the long run you will lose.

IMO it should be the teams that earn in by beating quality opponents.

If LSU had lost to UGA and finished 12-1 and 4-1 vs Top Ten teams, maybe LSU woudda deserved to be in over a Clem ACC Champ that lost to UNC and beat no ranked team. Or maybe an undefeated ACC Champ that beat no ranked team, what have they proved other than they can beat scrubs?

Now this year Clemson may be, IMO, the best team in the nation but they have played no one of consequence to earn anything.

Conference Champs aren't necessarily equal. FIVE of the top 13 teams this year are in the SEC. No other conference comes close. LSU beat the other 4, that is earning it, but had Tua not been injured bama might have beat AU and lost only to LSU. That would've, IMO, made them at least as deserving as Clem who beat no one.

My preference, by far, is objective measures.

 

[psybj]

LSU fans are cracking me up on these message boards already today. Some are posting how they just couldn’t sleep last night, already up going through their pre game rituals, butterflies, as if they’re the ones suiting up LOL. Win or lose I’m still going to be a fully functioning human being, I have a feeling if they lose it may be catastrophic for their fanbase.

Win or Lose, LSU fans gonna win the party!

Betting is at what time the party bars will run out of beer.

When LSU played at Syracuse, the City of Syracuse ran out of beer.

When LSU played at VTech, LSU fans rented out some parking lots for tailgating. At some point late Fri nite, with no violence or incidents, the riot squad came out to quell the ruckus.

 

[lsuson]

That's because they are not old money. This is a whole new experience for them.

LSU has played in 3 N.C. winning two and if they complete this season like we think they will, then we will have a 3rd N.C. in 17 years. So a whole new experience??? Umm no try again

 

[Soonerborn1959]

Should the best teams get in or should the teams that earned their way by playing and beating quality opponents get in?

The estimation of which are the best teams would best be left to bookies, they are right or they are broke. Any time you think they have the wrong team favorite you can bet your house on it, in the long run you will lose.

IMO it should be the teams that earn in by beating quality opponents.

If LSU had lost to UGA and finished 12-1 and 4-1 vs Top Ten teams, maybe LSU woudda deserved to be in over a Clem ACC Champ that lost to UNC and beat no ranked team. Or maybe an undefeated ACC Champ that beat no ranked team, what have they proved other than they can beat scrubs?

Now this year Clemson may be, IMO, the best team in the nation but they have played no one of consequence to earn anything.

Conference Champs aren't necessarily equal. FIVE of the top 13 teams this year are in the SEC. No other conference comes close. LSU beat the other 4, that is earning it, but had Tua not been injured bama might have beat AU and lost only to LSU. That would've, IMO, made them at least as deserving as Clem who beat no one.

My preference, by far, is objective measures.

I know you understand rankings are subjective right? They aren’t facts just simply opinions. This is why the subjective system needs to go and yes I will say it the SEC is always getting special provisions based on those subjective rankings. Surely you can agree on that.

The objective system means teams earn it by winning championships and its why many SEC fans are against such a system. I think your a good fan but I also think you buy to much into the subjective rankings system.

its easy to say conferences aren’t equal when one is always getting teams ranked highly based on the subjective opinions.

 

[OklaBama]

Win or Lose, LSU fans gonna win the party!

Betting is at what time the party bars will run out of beer.

When LSU played at Syracuse, the City of Syracuse ran out of beer.

When LSU played at VTech, LSU fans rented out some parking lots for tailgating. At some point late Fri nite, with no violence or incidents, the riot squad came out to quell the ruckus.

During the ‘70’s I traveled Louisiana extensively for about five years. During all that time I never thought my Louisiana friends partied particularly more than my Okie friends..... but I learned very quickly to never split a tray of crawfish with a coon-***. They can eat three in the time you it takes for you to eat one. Lol

 

[Soonerborn1959]

Should the best teams get in or should the teams that earned their way by playing and beating quality opponents get in?

The estimation of which are the best teams would best be left to bookies, they are right or they are broke. Any time you think they have the wrong team favorite you can bet your house on it, in the long run you will lose.

IMO it should be the teams that earn in by beating quality opponents.

If LSU had lost to UGA and finished 12-1 and 4-1 vs Top Ten teams, maybe LSU woudda deserved to be in over a Clem ACC Champ that lost to UNC and beat no ranked team. Or maybe an undefeated ACC Champ that beat no ranked team, what have they proved other than they can beat scrubs?

Now this year Clemson may be, IMO, the best team in the nation but they have played no one of consequence to earn anything.

Conference Champs aren't necessarily equal. FIVE of the top 13 teams this year are in the SEC. No other conference comes close. LSU beat the other 4, that is earning it, but had Tua not been injured bama might have beat AU and lost only to LSU. That would've, IMO, made them at least as deserving as Clem who beat no one.

My preference, by far, is objective measures.

To add there is a huge difference between the term “Best teams” which is based on subjective opinions and “Earned playoffs” by winning actual conf championships. The CFP committee moves the fence every year based on what best fits them just as CFB fans also do.

 

[Belldozer1]

It’s going to awfully interesting the next 2 or 3 years of how the ESPN narrative will evolve regarding the perceived and continually debunked myth that SECSEC defenses just won’t allow high scoring game. It’s already happening as the SECSEC cavemen are starting to realize the advantage of the forward pass and those SECSEC defenses are getting their butts lit up on a weekly basis.

I’m truly curious what the next myth about the SECSEC will be?

 

[owenfieldreams]

My "whole new experience" was focused on the "playoff era", however, I don't think you want to go there in terms of overall resume. It's not even close.