We need another fan boycott

[UK Cats Rock]

Stay home next Saturday and show them we won't take this crap anymore.

"We won't take this crap anymore." Yeah, us Kentucky fans who love football absolutely hate going to bowl games and being .500 in the SEC. Just kills me because we're so used to those things happening to use.....

Get real. Anyone with half a brain stem knows the four SEC wins resulted from certain programs regressing to UK's level. Fortunately for us, three of those games were in Lexington, and we still managed to barely squeak out wins. We haven't defeated any team with a pulse this season.

It's Year 4 and Stoops has only mustered two road wins. We're still waiting on his first signature win. Personally, I doubt we'll ever see it.

The Florida and Auburn games in 2015 and the Georgia game last week are the ones he needs to start winning. They were home games in front of large crowds against good (but certainly not great) teams. It just seems like UK will never get over that hump.

This is my favorite argument on the boards because - to me - it shows the mentality. If we win, it's because the teams we beat are "down."

That might be the case, but when you gripe and justify the wins like that, it's CLEAR that no matter what, people like this refuse to be happy.

So, if we lose to those teams, we gripe. If we win, it wasn't good enough because that team was "down." In other words, some won't be happy , .... unless we beat Bama or blow out those "lesser" teams.

I don't care who we beat and by how much; a win is a win to me. Just win, baby!

This is the SEC. Coaches with better results and resumes than Stoops have gotten canned these last few seasons. I have seen nothing in his time here that says "great coach" or that he can elevate this program.

I'm tired of bottom feeding.

1. What teams are you talking about? LSU and Georgia with huge football traditional schools? Cal would have been fired with Mark Fox's record at Georgia, but Georgia basketball isn't Kentucky..... just like Kentucky football isn't Georgia.

2. Scik of bottom feeding? Then you should be THRILLED with this year's results ....

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YOu must be a DJ because that is some might fine spinning.

What was inaccurate about what he said? Not saying you don't have a good point from your side of the opinion aisle; I'd just like to see your rebuttal instead of responding with nothing of substance. Disagreeing doesn't bother me, but this makes it look like you have no response and that's all you got. ;-)

All of my above responses with the utmost respect, folks. ;

 

[James Arington]

Stay home next Saturday and show them we won't take this crap anymore.

Calm down. Lot of young kids on team.

 

[DACats86]

We have a very small senior class, but they are great kids that have put up with a lot while at UK. PLEASE do not stay home this weekend - go show your support for the seniors!

 

[LeonThe Camel]

Get real. Anyone with half a brain stem knows the four SEC wins resulted from certain programs regressing to UK's level. Fortunately for us, three of those games were in Lexington, and we still managed to barely squeak out wins. We haven't defeated any team with a pulse this season.

It's Year 4 and Stoops has only mustered two road wins. We're still waiting on his first signature win. Personally, I doubt we'll ever see it.

The Florida and Auburn games in 2015 and the Georgia game last week are the ones he needs to start winning. They were home games in front of large crowds against good (but certainly not great) teams. It just seems like UK will never get over that hump.

But they were wins. In past years we would have lost those games as well.

Glaciers move at a slow pace, but they do move.

 

[Cawood86_rivals]

"We won't take this crap anymore." Yeah, us Kentucky fans who love football absolutely hate going to bowl games and being .500 in the SEC. Just kills me because we're so used to those things happening to use.....



This is my favorite argument on the boards because - to me - it shows the mentality. If we win, it's because the teams we beat are "down."

That might be the case, but when you gripe and justify the wins like that, it's CLEAR that no matter what, people like this refuse to be happy.

So, if we lose to those teams, we gripe. If we win, it wasn't good enough because that team was "down." In other words, some won't be happy , .... unless we beat Bama or blow out those "lesser" teams.

I don't care who we beat and by how much; a win is a win to me. Just win, baby!



1. What teams are you talking about? LSU and Georgia with huge football traditional schools? Cal would have been fired with Mark Fox's record at Georgia, but Georgia basketball isn't Kentucky..... just like Kentucky football isn't Georgia.

2. Scik of bottom feeding? Then you should be THRILLED with this year's results ....



What was inaccurate about what he said? Not saying you don't have a good point from your side of the opinion aisle; I'd just like to see your rebuttal instead of responding with nothing of substance. Disagreeing doesn't bother me, but this makes it look like you have no response and that's all you got. ;-)

All of my above responses with the utmost respect, folks. ;

My response is that spinning this season onto some sort grand step forward is not very genuine IMO. UK still got blown out by UF and UT. Still lost to UGA. Lost to Southern Miss. Some act as if this season is on par with '06 or '07 seasons. It's not. At all. That's was my point.

 

[mtn cat1]

My response is that spinning this season onto some sort grand step forward is not very genuine IMO. UK still got blown out by UF and UT. Still lost to UGA. Lost to Southern Miss. Some act as if this season is on par with '06 or '07 seasons. It's not. At all. That's was my point.

What this post needs is for the Mods to LOCK IT!

 

[Cawood86_rivals]

What this post needs is for the Mods to LOCK IT!

You need a safe zone?

 

[sensible]

Could someone please define bottom-feeding for me?

http://www.espn.com/college-football/standings/_/group/8

 

[kduncan55]

This team has improved this year. Are they where we want them, no, but it is a good step make a bowl and get the extra practices. This team still has holes, and let not forget we lost the QB that was pegged to lead this team early in the winter. We have a lot of positives to build upon, but are still needing more depth and to learn to win those tough game. I like the progression and look forward to the future.

We have a solid group of RB's, a back up QB who is not losing games that we are supposed to win, a good group of receivers and line. We have a talented secondary, and talent in the front seven. We need depth and one of those wins that send a team on a run.

 

[skcatfan]

My response is that spinning this season onto some sort grand step forward is not very genuine IMO. UK still got blown out by UF and UT. Still lost to UGA. Lost to Southern Miss. Some act as if this season is on par with '06 or '07 seasons. It's not. At all. That's was my point.

They're gonna finish the season 6-6 with a bowl game. Even an optimistic fan would've said 7 wins for this season would be great. And they were able to win 4 SEC games with a backup QB who I'm sure wasn't counted on to play much. QB play along with a lack of depth on defense are the obvious weaknesses of this team. And with so many players returning next year the depth issue shouldn't be a problem. Finding a QB to open up the passing game a little more will be the key to making next year the season in which they finally get over the hump against the top 3 teams in the East that UK has struggled with.

 

[DACats86]

They're gonna finish the season 6-6 with a bowl game. Even an optimistic fan would've said 7 wins for this season would be great. And they were able to win 4 SEC games with a backup QB who I'm sure wasn't counted on to play much. QB play along with a lack of depth on defense are the obvious weaknesses of this team. And with so many players returning next year the depth issue shouldn't be a problem. Finding a QB to open up the passing game a little more will be the key to making next year the season in which they finally get over the hump against the top 3 teams in the East that UK has struggled with.

I would only say that it should be: "And with so many players returning next year the depth issue shouldn't be AS BIG OF a problem." UK is always going to have depth issues, it's the nature of the beast. Even losing someone like Meyers on the OL could be a factor next year.

 

[jauk11]

Yes the op should start his boycott right now

He should boycott this board also. Please.

 

[sram]

6 wins and a bowl.

Stop moving the goal posts. As a CMS skeptic I will not change my previous expectations.

CMS has earned next year IMO, regardless of how awful the SEC has been.

Overcame loss of QB, awful start, revamped the defense, revamped the offense.

Complainers had zero evidence that this team would be able to do those things.

We will see what he and his staff are made of in 2017.

Also should have had 3 starter on DL that for various reasons were not on the team....

The OP needs to just go away, you are not wanted or needed............

 

[UK Cats Rock]

My response is that spinning this season onto some sort grand step forward is not very genuine IMO. UK still got blown out by UF and UT. Still lost to UGA. Lost to Southern Miss. Some act as if this season is on par with '06 or '07 seasons. It's not. At all. That's was my point.

Respectfully, I think people having hope that we're improving (which we are) was mistaken for them acting as if it's a "grand step forward."

I haven't seen anybody acting quite like that. I've seen people excited about some progress being made, and when you are Kentucky football, that's what it takes, even if it's slower than what some might want.

I posted in another thread something like, if we were told this would happen before the season:

1. Lose Tubman (who would have been counted on this year)
2. Lose Hatcher
3. Lose Meant on an already thin D-line
4. 7 sophomores playing significan minutes on D
5. Playing our back up quarterback from game 3 who has limited passing ability
6. Loss to USM in the first game

..... then found out we'd be playing Austin Peay for a 6th win.... everybody would be THRILLED.

So, again, I think you have concluded something that isn't there.

Lastly, we all want to move forward.... every single Cat fan.....

2013: 2 wins
2014: 5 wins
2015: 5 wins
2016: Likely 6 wins and a bowl.

Again, most everybody would have been happy with that if told before the season.

Thanks for the response.

 

[Cawood86_rivals]

They're gonna finish the season 6-6 with a bowl game. Even an optimistic fan would've said 7 wins for this season would be great. And they were able to win 4 SEC games with a backup QB who I'm sure wasn't counted on to play much. QB play along with a lack of depth on defense are the obvious weaknesses of this team. And with so many players returning next year the depth issue shouldn't be a problem. Finding a QB to open up the passing game a little more will be the key to making next year the season in which they finally get over the hump against the top 3 teams in the East that UK has struggled with.

Very rational and reasoned post and correct.

 

[Cawood86_rivals]

Respectfully, I think people having hope that we're improving (which we are) was mistaken for them acting as if it's a "grand step forward."

I haven't seen anybody acting quite like that. I've seen people excited about some progress being made, and when you are Kentucky football, that's what it takes, even if it's slower than what some might want.

I posted in another thread something like, if we were told this would happen before the season:

1. Lose Tubman (who would have been counted on this year)
2. Lose Hatcher
3. Lose Meant on an already thin D-line
4. 7 sophomores playing significan minutes on D
5. Playing our back up quarterback from game 3 who has limited passing ability
6. Loss to USM in the first game

..... then found out we'd be playing Austin Peay for a 6th win.... everybody would be THRILLED.

So, again, I think you have concluded something that isn't there.

Lastly, we all want to move forward.... every single Cat fan.....

2013: 2 wins
2014: 5 wins
2015: 5 wins
2016: Likely 6 wins and a bowl.

Again, most everybody would have been happy with that if told before the season.

Thanks for the response.

I probably did conclude something you weren't saying. You must know my wife.....[laughing].
You make some good points as well. I guess the thing that frustrates me the most is the mentality of some that just accept blowouts as being the norm or OK.

 

[SmokinGun9]

Toilet bowl and blowout losses to UT and UofL Woo Hoo progress!!!!

Please, stay home.

 

[UKvisitor_rivals101449]

Ain't no fairy godmothers in CF and especially in the SEC. UK was involved in some great to watch games this season.

Brooks took us to more straight bowl games than any other other coach in my UK fandom. This after fans wanted him gone B4 the 1st bowl game he led us too.

 

[wildcatdon]

Stay home next Saturday and show them we won't take this crap anymore.

You do it and let us know how it turns out!!!!!

 

[Blue Decade]

Stay home next Saturday and show them we won't take this crap anymore.

Clueless

 

[optimus-blue]

should never boycott the kids,but. unfortunately that's the only way this current Athletic department will make changes,they look at success as money, not wins and losses

 

[SmokinGun9]

Last I checked this was still the land of the free, home of the brave. If you don't wanna go? Geezus just stay home. Why must you try to impart your will upon others? Stay home, go shopping with the wife, go visit your mother in law, clean out your garage, hang christmas lights, volunteer at the local animal shelter, go donate blood, stay on your computer all day and pornsurf, but quit trying to tell others what they should do. We started the season wanting a bowl game, we are going to get one, despite fans like you who continually piss and moan. Are you the guy behind me in Section 11 who knows everything about everything?

 

[CB3UK]

There's a difference between being optimistic/sunshine pumping and being realistic.

When we crapped the bed against Southern Miss in the manner we did and followed it up with the Florida debacle, fans were justified in being pissed off given the coulda/woulda/shouldas and locker room issues of the previous season.

We regrouped, and beat teams that we should beat. Its that simple. I said many times they had poor offenses and thus you have to temper your expectations. We were still using LBs to get pressure even against those woeful OLs.

We are on track people! Calm the $!#@ down! If we convert those 3 FGs v UT the final is 49-41 and suddenly the tenor with some of you is different. Same if we don't pull out the Vandy game or blow the lead v State. The team is clearly progressing. We still have to build quality depth.

Calling for a boycott of this team is flat out ignorant.

 

[UK Cats Rock]

I probably did conclude something you weren't saying. You must know my wife.....[laughing].
You make some good points as well. I guess the thing that frustrates me the most is the mentality of some that just accept blowouts as being the norm or OK.

lol - the wife comment......

We are SLOWLY getting better, SLOWLY building depth, and SLOWLY starting to compete a little better (other than the first two games).... the key to me is that it looks like we're moving forward, albeit in 1st gear... it's still moving forward.

Appreciate the response. Tell the wife hello. Maybe both of our wives know each other. ;-) (I have a very cool wife; no complaints!)

 

[Cawood86_rivals]

lol - the wife comment......

We are SLOWLY getting better, SLOWLY building depth, and SLOWLY starting to compete a little better (other than the first two games).... the key to me is that it looks like we're moving forward, albeit in 1st gear... it's still moving forward.

Appreciate the response. Tell the wife hello. Maybe both of our wives know each other. ;-) (I have a very cool wife; no complaints!)

You are right. It is slow, but at least it's happening. Ditto on the wife comment. I'm very blessed.
I think Stoops has got to find a DC he can let handle that area. IMO, that has to happen. Keep DJ on the staff, but get a guy that can handle it.

 

[docinjax]

The place will be half empty next week but won't be because of the OPs call for a boycott...its just how our fans are.

And that's a shame. Some people say we have the best fans. I think we have some of the worst. A bowl game for the first time in 6 years and talk of a boycott.......makes a lot of sense.

 

[Poetax]

The only thing I have a problem with, are fans who have no desire to see this staff succeed and have the program move up with them. Tell me it's untrue but you know you are wrong. Most of the complainers started the season saying that this staff couldn't win but 5 games again, no problem everybody has a guess. But when we lost our first two games, the same complainers said now this staff won't win but 2 games, 3 at the most and again no problem everyone has an opinion. Now that we are on the crest of winning not 5 games but 6 and possibly going to a bowl game, you would think the complainers would at least say it was unexpected but nope there are now new reasons to be unhappy. Nobody is crazy happy with the way the season has gone but it's way better then 4 years ago and I agree that it should be. In the end, some will never be happy until this staff is gone which is ok I guess but this wasn't your story at the beginning of this season, you changed the criteria.

 

[Poetax]

My response is that spinning this season onto some sort grand step forward is not very genuine IMO. UK still got blown out by UF and UT. Still lost to UGA. Lost to Southern Miss. Some act as if this season is on par with '06 or '07 seasons. It's not. At all. That's was my point.

Again as one of the complainers you have to lie to just get your point across. Show me ONE post where someone said we have taken a grand step forward and I wlll apology to you.

 

[SanAntonioCat_rivals376502]

Stay home next Saturday and show them we won't take this crap anymore.

Hope you are happy coming on this board with your vitriol posts inciting the board to inflammatory responses which is exactly what you intended to accomplish. Does POS have any meaning to you?

 

[Blue Decade]

Yeah... I get it.

We also could have been competitive in all of our games and lost by a field goal each time...

Although I recognize the improved running game and defense, I cannot disagree that we still are not where I would like us to be on the field or with the coaching.

The bowl game was priority number one for me (although I thought that would mean we improved as much or more than the competition regressed).

Nonetheless, we are what we are and hopefully bring in a positive class and improve with the extra practices.

Almost no sports program is ever "where its fans would Iike it to be". That doesn't mean you boycott. LOL! What an utterly ridiculous idea by the OP. Like a spoiled child who hasn't gotten their way, so throw a tantrum. It still puzzles me why anyone would believe a program that was 2-10 in 2012 and 2013, then 5-7 in 2014 and 2015, would suddenly win every game in 2016. To put a kind face on it, that's naive. Winning 6 games this year provides 15 extra December practices for a young, improving team on the path toward further improvement. On many threads, I have pointed out that Coach Stoops will bring back 19 incumbent starters, both kickers, and a long list of quality redshirt freshmen in 2017. That's a team that ought to win more of the close games where they have struggled a little bit in 2016. Actually, to be honest about it, Stoops' current team will go bowling despite having to play a 2nd string quarterback who can't throw an accurate pass in the middle of the field and a defense without much depth that has been nearly wiped out by injuries in recent weeks. Of the defensive linemen starting now, none was ever an SEC starter before this year. For fans looking at this objectively, that's an impressive achievement by our coaches. If Stoops can't win 7-8 games in 2017 with the returning talent and experience, and hopefully with a different quarterback, that will be the time to question whether our current coaches can take our program down the path of additional improvement. But to push such questions now, on the cusp of our 1st bowl since 2010, is totally ridiculous. When I see something like that, I know there is an underlying agenda.

 

[Cawood86_rivals]

Again as one of the complainers you have to lie to just get your point across. Show me ONE post where someone said we have taken a grand step forward and I wlll apology to you.

Call me whatever you wish man. I am not a liar. I don't read every post. Maybe you do. Don't appreciate being called a liar. I never said anyone said that. I said some were trying to spin it that way. Maybe you need some reading comprehension.
I have voiced my frustrations, but I have also giving credit to Stoops and and staff as well. Since you read all the posts, you should know that. Respond or don't. Don't care.

 

[Poetax]

Call me whatever you wish man. I am not a liar. I don't read every post. Maybe you do. Don't appreciate being called a liar. I never said anyone said that. I said some were trying to spin it that way. Maybe you need some reading comprehension.
I have voiced my frustrations, but I have also giving credit to Stoops and and staff as well. Since you read all the posts, you should know that. Respond or don't. Don't care.

No I read fine, I haven't read anyone make the "spin" that you quoted. Everyone wants a better season so you're not alone.

 

[brianpoe]

Almost no sports program is ever "where its fans would Iike it to be". That doesn't mean you boycott. LOL! What an utterly ridiculous idea by the OP. Like a spoiled child who hasn't gotten their way, so throw a tantrum. It still puzzles me why anyone would believe a program that was 2-10 in 2012 and 2013, then 5-7 in 2014 and 2015, would suddenly win every game in 2016. To put a kind face on it, that's naive. Winning 6 games this year provides 15 extra December practices for a young, improving team on the path toward further improvement. On many threads, I have pointed out that Coach Stoops will bring back 19 incumbent starters, both kickers, and a long list of quality redshirt freshmen in 2017. That's a team that ought to win more of the close games where they have struggled a little bit in 2016. Actually, to be honest about it, Stoops' current team will go bowling despite having to play a 2nd string quarterback who can't throw an accurate pass in the middle of the field and a defense without much depth that has been nearly wiped out by injuries in recent weeks. Of the defensive linemen starting now, none was ever an SEC starter before this year. For fans looking at this objectively, that's an impressive achievement by our coaches. If Stoops can't win 7-8 games in 2017 with the returning talent and experience, and hopefully with a different quarterback, that will be the time to question whether our current coaches can take our program down the path of additional improvement. But to push such questions now, on the cusp of our 1st bowl since 2010, is totally ridiculous. When I see something like that, I know there is an underlying agenda.

Just for clarity my response to the OP is on page one.

This was a reply to another poster on page 2.

We are in agreement on all points above.

 

[theoledog]

I don't think UK needs another boycott...
The more creative way to achieve the same objective is enlarge the Club Section... The fans THERE are either not THERE or THEY'RE THERE, just not THERE in THEIR seat watching THEIR team??? Could be a win-win... Program needs wins...

that was hard for me to do..........

 

[UK Cats Rock]

Again as one of the complainers you have to lie to just get your point across. Show me ONE post where someone said we have taken a grand step forward and I wlll apology to you.

With this response, it's pretty harsh as you should look a few posts above and see our conversation. I brought a thing or two up and he responded respectfully.

 

[UK Cats Rock]

You are right. It is slow, but at least it's happening. Ditto on the wife comment. I'm very blessed.
I think Stoops has got to find a DC he can let handle that area. IMO, that has to happen. Keep DJ on the staff, but get a guy that can handle it.

A good wife is a very good thing. ;-)

Regarding a DC, I actually like the way it is being done right now, but would have no problem with him moving someone in as DC, either. My dream candidate would be Bo up at Youngstown State.

 

[Poetax]

With this response, it's pretty harsh as you should look a few posts above and see our conversation. I brought a thing or two up and he responded respectfully.

Sorry didn't see your all's conversation, downside of the response notice is that it takes you right to that post so you don't have to go through all the other posts. Thanks for making me aware.

 

[Cawood86_rivals]

No I read fine, I haven't read anyone make the "spin" that you quoted. Everyone wants a better season so you're not alone.

Responding to you is a waste of time. I am not a liar and will not waste my time on someone who doesn't understand what I said or how I said it.

 

[UK Cats Rock]

Sorry didn't see your all's conversation, downside of the response notice is that it takes you right to that post so you don't have to go through all the other posts. Thanks for making me aware.

You're good my friend. No problem at all.

 

[UK Cats Rock]

Responding to you is a waste of time. I am not a liar and will not waste my time on someone who doesn't understand what I said or how I said it.

Read the above posts. ;-)