We need to get back to work

atlkvb

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Or we may have nothing left to work for. I know that pleases some on the Left, who are all too happy right now to see our great economy struggling, but we have more to live for than fear.

great read here....

The case for getting back to work

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If every time a new pathogen emerges, we shut down the economy until we have a vaccine, as some are now proposing, there will not be much of a country left. We will have become hostages not only to tiny viruses but to anyone who would unleash them against us either unintentionally or intentionally.

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Even in the fantasy world of central banking, where money is created out of thin air, there must be a limit. Can anyone doubt that the only reason we were able to engage in this unprecedented shutdown is that we had the economic and financial ability to do so? But we have compromised the health of the economy, put millions of Americans out of work, and destroyed businesses.

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we have exposed a deep flaw in our national response system that must be addressed. Namely, the experts had it wrong, as they often do. The government’s medical professionals misunderstood the virus, misspoke about it in the media, and undercut the president. After initially being caught flat-footed, they overcorrected and caused panic and confusion while insisting that our only choice was a destructive economic shutdown. Once launched, there were no mechanisms to bring the public back from the brink of total lockdown lest it was thought that the president was favoring the economy over human life.



https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/04/09/the_case_for_getting_back_to_work_142896.html
 
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Blame Trump....he recommended the shutdown.
typical idiotic liberal response......if Trump had shut everything down as soon as he found out about the virus then you sheeples would have bitched that he was interfering with the american way of life............now in spite of all that has been done you whiners are saying he waited too long to do something and when he did it was wrong. Even a kool aid drinker like you should be able to recognize this.......but then again
 

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typical idiotic liberal response......if Trump had shut everything down as soon as he found out about the virus then you sheeples would have bitched that he was interfering with the american way of life............now in spite of all that has been done you whiners are saying he waited too long to do something and when he did it was wrong. Even a kool aid drinker like you should be able to recognize this.......but then again

So it's not Trump's fault? Oh. So it wasn't his fault that he waited too late, and it's not his fault that he's not urged a reopening of the economy? Dang.
 

BigLickMountee

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So it's not Trump's fault? Oh. So it wasn't his fault that he waited too late, and it's not his fault that he's not urged a reopening of the economy? Dang.

no it's not his fault. understand the definition of the word fault.

also, when is late too late? Who gets to say what late really is? When and what is late is merely an opinion, albeit a politically (and hate) driven thought.
 

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So it's not Trump's fault? Oh. So it wasn't his fault that he waited too late, and it's not his fault that he's not urged a reopening of the economy? Dang.

I just had this discussion with my wife...he got called out for not doing enough...now he is being called for doing too much. The 3 Little Bears story comes to mind...only for the left its called the 2 Little Bears...
 
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Or we may have nothing left to work for.

Go f'uck yourself. We go back too soon, there won't be as many people able to work.

I thought you were "pro life?" Typical trumper, "pro life" until it impacts the economy.

See what falling for his ******** does to you?
 

Pospecteer

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Go f'uck yourself. We go back too soon, there won't be as many people able to work.

I thought you were "pro life?" Typical trumper, "pro life" until it impacts the economy.

See what falling for his ******** does to you?

Looks like someone has started their traditional Easter weekend (Kennedy style) early...congrats, I am waiting until lunch for a beer...me jelly.
 

atlkvb

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Go f'uck yourself. We go back too soon, there won't be as many people able to work.

I thought you were "pro life?" Typical trumper, "pro life" until it impacts the economy.

See what falling for his ******** does to you?

I'll guarantee you are still drawing a paycheck and doing very little "work" for it.

What does Pro Life have to do with folks' need to work and earn a living? What would you have them do, stand in a soup line waiting on a Government handout?

No thanks, most folks who work in the private sector unlike you, don't mind earning their living. Only worthless Government bureaucrats enjoy sitting at home getting paid to do nothing.
 
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jpoppa

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So it's not Trump's fault? Oh. So it wasn't his fault that he waited too late, and it's not his fault that he's not urged a reopening of the economy? Dang.
Captain Alzheimer Biden called him xenophobic for shutting down flights from Asian in January. So if the left was in charge the death count would have been double
 

atlkvb

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I thought you were "pro life?" Typical trumper, "pro life" until it impacts the economy.

Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. How do we accomplish any of that sitting at home afraid to work and scared to die? You have a better chance of dying from a heart attack than a Covid-19 attack...more folks do every year in America!

Why haven't we shut the country down over heart disease?
 
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atlkvb

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Go f'uck yourself. We go back too soon, there won't be as many people able to work.

How many late term abortions were you OK with before the Covid craziness? Population replenishment or saving innocent human Lives wasn't on your radar before this virus showed up was it?

No of course it wasn't. That advice in your post you gave me? I shudder to think if another human being has ever actually considered the idea for you.

Oh...imagine the horror!:eek:
 
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Go f'uck yourself. We go back too soon, there won't be as many people able to work.

I thought you were "pro life?" Typical trumper, "pro life" until it impacts the economy.

See what falling for his ******** does to you?

I see you are going to hide away for another 2 years. I bet you are afraid of your own shadow. Do you go outside in a rubber suit when it's Flu season?
 

Boomboom521

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Even though we see the positive effects these measures are having? We still have to bow to that great master dont we?

talk about doomsayers, great pickle **** you guys! I thought we were going to re evaluate at Easter?
 

atlkvb

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Heart attacks and Flu are more lethal and prevalent. We've never been "afraid" of either, and have managed to work through years of death from both.

We're all going to die. Why are we not working over fear of something we are all 100% guaranteed is on the way, in some cases sooner than most of us think?
 

D. Denzil Finney

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Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. How do we accomplish any of that sitting at home afraid to work and scared to die? You have a better chance of dying from a heart attack than a Covid-19 attack...more folks do every year in America!

Why haven't we shut the country down over heart disease?
I haven't got a dog in this fight -- there are stumbling blocks on both sides. That being said and in answer to your question; Heart disease is not contagious.
 
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Heart attacks and Flu are more lethal and prevalent. We've never been "afraid" of either, and have managed to work through years of death from both.

We're all going to die. Why are we not working over fear of something we are all 100% guaranteed is on the way, in some cases sooner than most of us think?

The flu is not more lethal, dumbass.

The mortality rate for the flu is 0.08%. The mortality rate for COVID-19 in the US is 3.4%, 42.5 times more lethal than the flu.

F'ucking dumbass. What you're doing is dangerous to society.
 

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no it's not his fault. understand the definition of the word fault.

also, when is late too late? Who gets to say what late really is? When and what is late is merely an opinion, albeit a politically (and hate) driven thought.

Well, if Trump would have listened to his advisers in mid-January, perhaps we'd be enjoying our NORMAL lives today? Is that too "late" or "fault"? Of course not.
 

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I just had this discussion with my wife...he got called out for not doing enough...now he is being called for doing too much. The 3 Little Bears story comes to mind...only for the left its called the 2 Little Bears...

No, he's getting called out for doing too much TOO LATE. Should have done this stuff in January.
 

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Captain Alzheimer Biden called him xenophobic for shutting down flights from Asian in January. So if the left was in charge the death count would have been double

And Truman weighed the critics that dropping a bomb on civilian cities was "inhumane".....but the POTUS makes difficult decisions, not popular ones.
 

atlkvb

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I haven't got a dog in this fight -- there are stumbling blocks on both sides. That being said and in answer to your question; Heart disease is not contagious.

You avoid this the same way you avoid heart disease. Good nutrition, build your immune system, healthy personal habits and avoid known risk factors. We have not shut the country down to avoid heart disease risk factors why this?

Heart disease is more deadly and more prevalent.
 

atlkvb

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The flu is not more lethal, dumbass.

The mortality rate for the flu is 0.08%. The mortality rate for COVID-19 in the US is 3.4%, 42.5 times more lethal than the flu.

F'ucking dumbass. What you're doing is dangerous to society.

More Americans are killed by the flu than have been killed by this. Pick any year you choose and influenza outbreaks prove to kill more Americans than the worst projections of this currently are.

And if you don't curb your filthy tongue I'm going to send CDC officials from here in Atlanta to your house and quarantine you!
 

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More Americans are killed by the flu than have been killed by this....


So is your stat only for "Americans" or globally? The flu kills between 24,000-62,000 each year. How many months are we in to COVID-19? And the deaths are at ________?
 

Boomboom521

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You avoid this the same way you avoid heart disease. Good nutrition, build your immune system, healthy personal habits and avoid known risk factors. We have not shut the country down to avoid heart disease risk factors why this?

Heart disease is more deadly and more prevalent.
“Im sorry, you are skinny and you’re a genius”
—Todd Packer
 

atlkvb

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So is your stat only for "Americans" or globally? The flu kills between 24,000-62,000 each year. How many months are we in to COVID-19? And the deaths are at ________?

Americans. Heart disease is the #2 killer for us after Cancer. We've never shut the country down for either.
 

MountaineerWV

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Americans. Heart disease is the #2 killer for us after Cancer. We've never shut the country down for either.

First, let me say I'm against a "shutdown". I'm healthy, my wife isn't (Diabetes). I know the risks, so does she.

1. Heart Disease and Cancer are not transmitted person-to-person by contact, are they?

2. By the end of the year, COVID-19 will be ahead of those two
 

atlkvb

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They aren't contagious, you f'ucking moron.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA.

I didn't claim heart attacks were "contagious" you lovely Spring flower. I said they kill more Americans annually than this thing is currently projected to kill.

How is it you manage to avoid contamination of your own bile filled tongue? Or maybe you are lethally infected with deadly pathogens that kill all of your healthy thoughts?
 

atlkvb

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First, let me say I'm against a "shutdown". I'm healthy, my wife isn't (Diabetes). I know the risks, so does she.

1. Heart Disease and Cancer are not transmitted person-to-person by contact, are they?

2. By the end of the year, COVID-19 will be ahead of those two

I agree we should not have the country on shut down. Much too severe to handle the known risks factors of this.

My point was both heart disease and cancer can largely be avoided by following good nutritional habits, strong immune systems, good hygeine and health habits, and steering clear of the known risks that cause infection. Same with this.

As to your last point, the predictive models have already been adjusted down by over 90% even factoring in ongoing mitigation activities. You cannot say with certainty right now, the fatalities we see so far will increase significantly beyond what we currently see.

Still my original point is, it's rapidly approaching the time where we simply need to reopen the country and accept the risk inherent in all dangerous health threats just like we do with heart disease and cancer.
 

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No, he's getting called out for doing too much TOO LATE. Should have done this stuff in January.
You mean he was called out for limiting travelers from China, that time frame? Image if went full shutdown...he would have been impeached..article 25 would have enforced etc...
 

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The flu is not more lethal, dumbass.

The mortality rate for the flu is 0.08%. The mortality rate for COVID-19 in the US is 3.4%, 42.5 times more lethal than the flu.

F'ucking dumbass. What you're doing is dangerous to society.

Proof that countywuhan is behind in his propaganda spreading. China is making him work over Easter.