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Eagles_Ball_69

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I’ve had two ACL surgeries so I guess you would know better than me. I was cleared after 4-5 months both times and it was the head of Ortho at UK that did the surgeries and the follow up. I’m not a college basketball player though. But 2-4 months after that should be good.

You say there are a handful of players that we list. Can you list one that took a year? I could see him re-aggravate the injury or tear his other ACL, which is common, but those are different things.

TLR also said that quote because Stan ‘the man’ and Pujols ‘the Machine’ were Cardinal legends.
Don’t take this the wrong way, but I honestly don’t care about your surgery or recovery. It’s completely irrelevant to this topic of conversation. What is relevant is just about every overly optimistic poster on her has scoured the web trying to prove me wrong and they’ve come up with about five examples and all but one or two of those was shy of 9 months by a couple weeks.

There are a ton of people on here taking it for granted he will be ready by the start of the season. Why? Because his dad said. Seriously? Maybe he will be. But there’s a just a ton of evidence out there that says he won’t be.

12 months? I’m not sure why that’s significant. But Brazile was right around that time frame, and has honestly never been the same player. The only reason I mentioned 12 months was to point out it’s as likely as 6 months. Neither is “typical”.
 

Tubbyfan78

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A dude shooting 36% FG....and 26% from 3pt land vs
Butler shooting 49%FG...39% 3pt (and he went a bit cold after hurting his shoulder) and defensive player n his conference before UK


In what world is Lowe better than Butler?
I like Lowe and I’m glad he’s coming here and I hope he ends up being better. I admittedly have no idea. However, at this point, there’s no world I’m assuming he’s better right now. Butler was a pure winner. Won everywhere he went.
 
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Eagles_Ball_69

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I seen a Sweet 16 ceiling for last year's squad. With the roster we have right now on April 11th, at 4:27pm (CST), I also see a Sweet 16 ceiling. I know we aren't done in the portal, so the Sweet 16 ceiling could elevate with additional recruits. But this is how I see the team right now.
I’m afraid this is far too logical for RR, but I agree.
 

FitchandMurray29

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Here’s my take as of today. This is based on players going into each season, not the versions we ended up getting with last years team as it wouldn’t be fair to the new players. So essentially comparing players as of the date they arrived to campus each year and my perception of them.

Lowe>Butler. In my opinion it’s not even particularly close. Happy to defend that position, just go look at Butler’s SDSU stats with a clear 4 year sample.

Jasper<Robinson. Also not really close imo. Getting a Wilkerson type changes the calculus here and has a trickle down effect.

Oweh now> Oweh then. Not close either. Reflective in the fact he’ll probably double or triple his NIL.

Mo D= Carr. This one is close to me so I just called it even.

JQ> Amari. This one has a huge caveat around health of JQ. Essentially both are defensive centers and JQ is just better at that imo.

Kam Williams= Brea. Another close one imo. An actual draftable type prospect at Tulane vs a 6th man at Dayton with insane shooting efficiency.

Garrison now<Garrison then. I know that seems illogical but essentially there was this hope or potential that wore off considerably. Example: he was the 20th ranked transfer last year. He’d be nowhere near that this year.

Chandler now=Chandler then. Even with two years off I had high expectations for the former top 40 recruit. He underwhelmed for the season but then finished on a higher note so I just said =

Perry now slightly < Perry then. Pretty comparable. But thought he’d for sure provide great shooting if nothing else. 31% FG and 32% 3PT were disappointments.

Noah now>Noah then. I thought Noah would be our last player in the rotation yet I thought he showed admirable rebounding desire and shot decent to boot.

Moreno>Almonor. Not a fair comparison I know. Just comparing 4th big to 4th big.


So right now we’re missing the Kerr comp. If you get a Wilkerson, then Jasper is who I comp to Kerr giving Jasper the edge.

Think there is and will continue to be an advantage for this upcoming year’s team which will be reflected with higher preseason expectations than we had this year.
 

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Don’t take this the wrong way, but I honestly don’t care about your surgery or recovery. It’s completely irrelevant to this topic of conversation. What is relevant is just about every overly optimistic poster on her has scoured the web trying to prove me wrong and they’ve come up with about five examples and all but one or two of those was shy of 9 months by a couple weeks.

There are a ton of people on here taking it for granted he will be ready by the start of the season. Why? Because his dad said. Seriously? Maybe he will be. But there’s a just a ton of evidence out there that says he won’t be.

12 months? I’m not sure why that’s significant. But Brazile was right around that time frame, and has honestly never been the same player. The only reason I mentioned 12 months was to point out it’s as likely as 6 months. Neither is “typical”.
 

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Don’t take this the wrong way, but I honestly don’t care about your surgery or recovery. It’s completely irrelevant to this topic of conversation. What is relevant is just about every overly optimistic poster on her has scoured the web trying to prove me wrong and they’ve come up with about five examples and all but one or two of those was shy of 9 months by a couple weeks.

There are a ton of people on here taking it for granted he will be ready by the start of the season. Why? Because his dad said. Seriously? Maybe he will be. But there’s a just a ton of evidence out there that says he won’t be.

12 months? I’m not sure why that’s significant. But Brazile was right around that time frame, and has honestly never been the same player. The only reason I mentioned 12 months was to point out it’s as likely as 6 months. Neither is “typical”.


There’s no way to take it, but to take it as a slight. I went through the exact same surgery so it is completely relevant imo.

Guess what, we will know by November, so you can be so excited about being right if that’s the case.

Funny you finally brought up your first recovery case and it’s an Arkansas player. That says a lot.
 
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Padsfs07

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Also Brazile was healthy to start the following season at exactly 9 months, so you aren’t even right about him
 

Eagles_Ball_69

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There’s no way to take it, but to take it as a slight. I went through the exact same surgery so it is completely relevant imo.

Guess what, we will know by November, so you can be so excited about being right if that’s the case.

Funny you finally brought up your first recovery case and it’s an Arkansas player. That says a lot.
Are you a 6’9” 240lb P4 college basketball player? If you are/were, my apologies. If you aren’t/weren’t surely you can see your case isn’t relevant. It’s not a slight, one just has zero to do with the other.

I hope like hell I’m wrong. There’s just an awful lot of evidence that says I won’t be. Like 99% to 1%, and that’s even a stretch. I LOVE the JQ signing, or whatever it’s called now. That dude is EXACTLY what we lacked and needed. And I think there’s a high probability he’s G2G around Xmas break. Anything prior to that is icing on the cake. Why? Because literally damned near every ACL recovery takes that long in the basketball world.

I coached against Brazile in HS. I follow him closely. One of his former coaches and I are really good friends. That’s it. I swear, some of you draw the weirdest conclusions about things.
 
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Wilkerson or the mid major guard whom I can’t think of name right now are the only two takes IMO

save one or two spots for last second additions via coach DUI or random other events.
 

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I really want Freeman. Young, can score. Put 15, 20 lbs. On him and he could play 3 positions in a pinch. And develop into a good one in time.
If he can be convinced to come here and play behind all the talent we have ahead of him, he could be a nice developmental piece.

I wonder, with Pope being the head man now, if redshirting is now a consideration for developmental players like it was back when Pope was a player?

With 15 scholarships, that might be something that comes back for big time programs. Work out with the team, develop, keep a year of eligibility, and now you can get paid to do it. Might be appealing to some.
 

4Frusciante#

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If he can be convinced to come here and play behind all the talent we have ahead of him, he could be a nice developmental piece.

I wonder, with Pope being the head man now, if redshirting is now a consideration for developmental players like it was back when Pope was a player?

With 15 scholarships, that might be something that comes back for big time programs. Work out with the team, develop, keep a year of eligibility, and now you can get paid to do it. Might be appealing to some.
I've thought for a while now that a redshirt is the only thing that makes sense for Perry. He could make a lot of NIL as a junior...but not if rides the bench as a sophomore.