Week 7 Bowl Projections

Babe the Blue Ox_rivals

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ESPN/Schlabach: Bahamas Bowl vs Old Dominion
ESPN/McMurphy: Bahamas Bowl vs North Texas

CFN: Cure Bowl (Orlando) vs GA Southern

SB Nation: Bahamas Bowl vs Eastern Michigan

CBS/Palm: Birmingham Bowl vs Missouri

Gridiron Now: Military Bowl vs Pitt
 

Lumpuckeroo

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ESPN/Schlabach: Bahamas Bowl vs Old Dominion
ESPN/McMurphy: Bahamas Bowl vs North Texas

CFN: Cure Bowl (Orlando) vs GA Southern

SB Nation: Bahamas Bowl vs Eastern Michigan

CBS/Palm: Birmingham Bowl vs Missouri

Gridiron Now: Military Bowl vs Pitt
We can beat Missouri
 

TulsaFanForever

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ESPN/Schlabach: Bahamas Bowl vs Old Dominion
ESPN/McMurphy: Bahamas Bowl vs North Texas
CFN: Cure Bowl (Orlando) vs GA Southern

Yuck! I didn't even know that OD or GA Southern moved up. Now I could get behind the Missouri bowl. That would be fun.
 

Lumpuckeroo

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ESPN/Schlabach: Bahamas Bowl vs Old Dominion
ESPN/McMurphy: Bahamas Bowl vs North Texas
CFN: Cure Bowl (Orlando) vs GA Southern

Yuck! I didn't even know that OD or GA Southern moved up. Now I could get behind the Missouri bowl. That would be fun.
I want TU playing a "Name" college like last year. Montgomery has TU on the rise. I hope TU "money backers" will sweeten his yearly salary. Kragthorpe made a big mistake going to Louisville...Montgomery is doing a fantastic job here...lets make it hard for him to leave.
 

TU_BLA

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ESPN/Schlabach: Bahamas Bowl vs Old Dominion
ESPN/McMurphy: Bahamas Bowl vs North Texas
CFN: Cure Bowl (Orlando) vs GA Southern

Yuck! I didn't even know that OD or GA Southern moved up. Now I could get behind the Missouri bowl. That would be fun.
Old Dominion is in C-USA. GA Southern is in the Sun Belt after many successful years at FCS. Honestly, we blow the doors off of any of those teams listed, including Mizzou. Pitt...they aren't all that great. Tells you how average OkState is this year.
 

HuffyCane

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Missouri might wear us down. Pitt is in the ACC and beatable. We might trail early, but the pace will catch up to them at the end of both halves.
 

TU_BLA

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Missouri might wear us down. Pitt is in the ACC and beatable. We might trail early, but the pace will catch up to them at the end of both halves.
Pitt isn't that good. That should tell you a little something about OSU right now, especially on defense. There has to be a scenario where we could play OSU on a neutral field. Outside of Washington they don't have a ton of weapons and they can't run the ball against anyone with a decent DL...and I'd say we are better than average on the DL.
 

drboobay

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I saw a b12 tie in, maybe Armed Forces? That would be great. But I suspect OSU will end up in a higher b12 pecking order bowl considering the weakness of that conference this year.
 

astonmartin708_rivals

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I want TU playing a "Name" college like last year. Montgomery has TU on the rise. I hope TU "money backers" will sweeten his yearly salary. Kragthorpe made a big mistake going to Louisville...Montgomery is doing a fantastic job here...lets make it hard for him to leave.
PAY.THE.MAN.

And reward his staff as well. We need to keep him happy.
 
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drboobay

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TU is having budget issues with the energy downturn so the $$ will have to come from boosters I suspect. But those boosters may also be feeling the downturn.

It will be interesting to see the rest of the season unfold. A big attendance uptick would matter.
 
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HuffyCane

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The entire university is experiencing a slowdown. Programs cut. Long term employees forced into retirement. Planned giving and planned building put on hold. Even in the athletic department, cuts have been made, and Im talking about more than just the golf program.

I wouldn't expect a booster (and there are far fewer than you might imagine) to come riding in ready to pay Graham money or pledge that amount while he/she raises it amongst their friends.

Even if TU COULD do that, it isn't a given they WOULD do that, given the environment on campus and in higher education as a whole. Add into that mix a new President and I would put the chances of matching money for Monty as pretty low, even if he wants to stay. The last thing a new President wants is a sizable portion of the faculty pissed off because a football coach is getting millions a year. Stead could get away with it because he was able to raise and spend other amounts to keep people happy, quiet, and in line. Its a different time now. 2007 is another world on campus.

Then there is the issue of the quality of these wins. We've won close games and the ones we have won have been by doing some fundamentally unsound things. Many of the wins have been won by the defense. He calls the plays. Some of the play calling has been questionable and his situational awareness has been suspect at time (admitting that he did not know his RB1 had 40 carries and was exhausted). We could easily be upside down in the W-L column. Do you throw down $10 million in a long term deal and have that turn into a series of 5-7 records?

Despite his volatility, TG was a much more proven commodity. We knew what he could do with the defense. We saw what he could do at Rice. He came back and won immediately at TU. Most importantly, all the people involved in the decision had been familiar with him for at least five to six years. Paying to keep him made sense. Here, there isn't that same level of familiarity, so the risk is higher.

Is it more risky to lay your money on him and weather the storm that will result on campus or is it more risky to go find another young coach just like him?

Kragthorpe, Graham, Montgomery, the people doing the deciding have a pretty good track record. I think we know what their decision will be.
 
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TU_BLA

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Monty doesn't have nearly the baggage TG had. Not all the players loved TG and his demeanor. They loved winning, but the behind the scenes stuff was not always a positive. Monty...other than being connected to Baylor and that fiasco, every sign points to him being the type of man you want your kids to play for, to teach the right principles in football and in life. Also, the locker room celebrations afterwards seem to be a real connection point with players.

I think you give him the modest bump in salary with a 3 year extension. If you get 2 more years out of him before a big school decides they want to pay the buy out, that's a win for TU IMO. Then maybe you can look at one of his assistants, Norwood maybe. Or you go back and steal Mattox from TX to take over to keep the offensive flow consistent.
 

astonmartin708_rivals

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The entire university is experiencing a slowdown. Programs cut. Long term employees forced into retirement. Planned giving and planned building put on hold. Even in the athletic department, cuts have been made, and Im talking about more than just the golf program.

I wouldn't expect a booster (and there are far fewer than you might imagine) to come riding in ready to pay Graham money or pledge that amount while he/she raises it amongst their friends.

Even if TU COULD do that, it isn't a given they WOULD do that, given the environment on campus and in higher education as a whole. Add into that mix a new President and I would put the chances of matching money for Monty as pretty low, even if he wants to stay. The last thing a new President wants is a sizable portion of the faculty pissed off because a football coach is getting millions a year. Stead could get away with it because he was able to raise and spend other amounts to keep people happy, quiet, and in line. Its a different time now. 2007 is another world on campus.

Then there is the issue of the quality of these wins. We've won close games and the ones we have won have been by doing some fundamentally unsound things. Many of the wins have been won by the defense. He calls the plays. Some of the play calling has been questionable and his situational awareness has been suspect at time (admitting that he did not know his RB1 had 40 carries and was exhausted). We could easily be upside down in the W-L column. Do you throw down $10 million in a long term deal and have that turn into a series of 5-7 records?

Despite his volatility, TG was a much more proven commodity. We knew what he could do with the defense. We saw what he could do at Rice. He came back and won immediately at TU. Most importantly, all the people involved in the decision had been familiar with him for at least five to six years. Paying to keep him made sense. Here, there isn't that same level of familiarity, so the risk is higher.

Is it more risky to lay your money on him and weather the storm that will result on campus or is it more risky to go find another young coach just like him?

Kragthorpe, Graham, Montgomery, the people doing the deciding have a pretty good track record. I think we know what their decision will be.

Graham never really impressed me. He had a slew of great offensive coordinators, but he couldn't put together a quality defense to save his life. (Similar to what he's done in Arizona)

Monty has shown that he has offensive prowess, and he surrounds himself with people that can improve the various position groups, also our recruiting is up significantly even after posting a losing record last season and losing two stud coordinators to Texas. And the improvement on defense has been ASTOUNDING.

Pay. The. Man.

Pay. Him. Now.
 

Babe the Blue Ox_rivals

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I think we see Navy in the Military Bowl.

Per the Armed Forces Bowl website:

"The 2016 Lockheed Martin Armed Forces Bowl will feature the Big 12 Conference, facing off against the U.S. Naval Academy, pending bowl eligibility."

The next time the AAC has an open slot in this bowl is 2018.
 

nevadanatural

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Ok, I was unaware that the matchup had been decided already. That leaves an opening in Annapolis then against the ACC.