Well, well, well.........

[Orlaco]

--'True' fans turning on our coaching staff ( and pretending they haven't been trashing other posters for previously doing the exact same thing).

--I'm here even though it was advertised numerous times that 'Orlaco' is only a bandwagon fan who would disappear after losses. I'm here but I'd prefer to be admitting that the 'true' fans should be getting compliments for their unreasonable faith.

--People writing that the coal industry was great (unstoppable really) until our most recent president took office. Yea... (I'm not sure why I tossed that into this post)

-- DH made BS look like a clock management genius with the way he handled our last possession before the half. Sincere apologies to Bill Stewart...and any family members who may actually read this thread... ...I was too hard on the man/coach.

-- I do believe we can win out. ....but then I thought at one point in time we WOULD win two of our last four.

....as usual I could go on...but I understand that most readers on a forum prefer short posts...and I'm already past that point.

 

[HurdyGurdyEer]

I am sure that you are well pleased with yourself.

 

[Boomboom521]

--'True' fans turning on our coaching staff ( and pretending they haven't been trashing other posters for previously doing the exact same thing).

--I'm here even though it was advertised numerous times that 'Orlaco' is only a bandwagon fan who would disappear after losses. I'm here but I'd prefer to be admitting that the 'true' fans should be getting compliments for their unreasonable faith.

--People writing that the coal industry was great (unstoppable really) until our most recent president took office. Yea... (I'm not sure why I tossed that into this post)

-- DH made BS look like a clock management genius with the way he handled our last possession before the half. Sincere apologies to Bill Stewart...and any family members who may actually read this thread... ...I was too hard on the man/coach.

-- I do believe we can win out. ....but then I thought at one point in time we WOULD win two of our last four.

....as usual I could go on...but I understand that most readers on a forum prefer short posts...and I'm already past that point.

At least recognize that last night was a critical loss.....if we win out, I'm still supporting Dana. I think a lot of people are in the same boat. I'm sure that people like you could see it sooo long ago (and I'm sure you know exactly the right hire to replace Dana). Most of us were positive about the possibilities with Holgs. There were some legitimate excuses, and he needed time to establish the roster.

 

[Orlaco]

Oh...Boom lol Boom....

....you have no idea of my opinions regarding our coaching staff.

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You can even quote me and you'd most likely end up incorrect. You need to put in your forum time (and effort) to even begin to know what's what around here...

 

[VaultHunter]

Its not hard to separate the "true fans" from the " not true fans"

The "true fans" were still on board up until the TCU debacle.

The "not true fans" were giving up on Dana after a 3-0 start

The "true fans" want what is best for WVU even if that means a coaching change needs to be made.

The "not true fans" want a coaching change so the can be right and pat themselves on the back for being right for a change.

Big difference between the two

 

[Boomboom521]

Oh...Boom lol Boom....

....you have no idea of my opinions regarding our coaching staff.

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You can even quote me and you'd most likely end up incorrect. You need to put in your forum time (and effort) to even begin to know what's what around here...

First of all....boom boom is a nod to my favorite golfer: Freddy couples, so you can choke on that lol.
Second, what does "putting in my time" have to do with calling you out on that BS post? Your post had nothing to say, but "I told you so"! You sound like a jerk saying things like that, and it doesn't foster community either.
People can have different opinions....and discussion! You just want to stroke your own ego. The title of your post was "Well, well, well...", it that kind of BS that makes this community a negative for the most part when it could be something constructive for fans.

 

[Boomboom521]

First of all....boom boom is a nod to my favorite golfer: Freddy couples, so you can choke on that lol.
Second, what does "putting in my time" have to do with calling you out on that BS post? Your post had nothing to say, but "I told you so"! You sound like a jerk saying things like that, and it doesn't foster community either.
People can have different opinions....and discussion! You just want to stroke your own ego. The title of your post was "Well, well, well...", it that kind of BS that makes this community a negative for the most part when it could be something constructive for fans.

Its not hard to separate the "true fans" from the " not true fans"

The "true fans" were still on board up until the TCU debacle.

The "not true fans" were giving up on Dana after a 3-0 start

The "true fans" want what is best for WVU even if that means a coaching change needs to be made.

The "not true fans" want a coaching change so the can be right and pat themselves on the back for being right for a change.

Big difference between the two

Oh and besides your ego I'm sure you are stroking something else most nights too. Sorry, but that type of BS is why I haven't "put in my time ".

 

[Boomboom521]

Oh and besides your ego I'm sure you are stroking something else most nights too. Sorry, but that type of BS is why I haven't "put in my time ".

Sorry vault hunter, that was meant for Orlaco

 

[Orlaco]

You clowns are so upset you are attacking each other... ...fun to witness.

 

[Boomboom521]

You clowns are so upset you are attacking each other... ...fun to witness.

I was only attacking you. I agree with vault hunter.....and I think you are a windbag know it all. And it does upset me that people like you think you have more insight because you ACT like it on a website. I come here for different perspectives, and always run into users like you.....always right about nothing

 

[Samuel S]

Would there not be an argument that those who foresaw problems despite wins over patsies might get the game a bit more than people who had to watch us play four straight terrible games to belatedly catch on?

 

[torontoeers]

First of all....boom boom is a nod to my favorite golfer: Freddy couples, so you can choke on that lol.
Second, what does "putting in my time" have to do with calling you out on that BS post? Your post had nothing to say, but "I told you so"! You sound like a jerk saying things like that, and it doesn't foster community either.
People can have different opinions....and discussion! You just want to stroke your own ego. The title of your post was "Well, well, well...", it that kind of BS that makes this community a negative for the most part when it could be something constructive for fans.

He's not here to 'foster community' he's here to put his points forth...sometimes I agree with him...sometimes not...although I think his clown comment was unnecessary. ...not that he cares...

 

[Boomboom521]

Would there not be an argument that those who foresaw problems despite wins over patsies might get the game a bit more than people who had to watch us play four straight terrible games to belatedly catch on?

The argument from me would be.....you didn't really know

 

[Orlaco]

He's not here to 'foster community' he's here to put his points forth...sometimes I agree with him...sometimes not...although I think his clown comment was unnecessary. ...not that he cares...

She... ...but yea, there was no need for my 'clown' comment.

 

[Boomboom521]

She... ...but yea, there was no need for my 'clown' comment.

Thanks for that! No need for my attack either. When things are tough for the program I've loved all my life....I turn to here for some insight, understanding, and perspective. I get upset sifting through the pointless bashing and I told you so's.

 

[Samuel S]

OK, then how about those who so strongly suspected that the problems were serious and deep that they went on record before the problems were easily exploited by the good. teams know more about football than those who believed the warnings were baseless ?

 

[Boomboom521]

OK, then how about those who so strongly suspected that the problems were serious and deep that they went on record before the problems were easily exploited by the good. teams know more about football than those who believed the warnings were baseless ?

Maybe I missed the specifics? Most just say a general "he sucks", and never get specific. I know that both those teams were cupcakes, but we did well

 

[Boomboom521]

OK, then how about those who so strongly suspected that the problems were serious and deep that they went on record before the problems were easily exploited by the good. teams know more about football than those who believed the warnings were baseless ?

Besides.....I personally still don't KNOW anything. After that 40-10 loss, I'm not feeling too positive about Dana now. However, he wins out: I'm back in his corner. Right now, I just don't see the QB or offense producing. They did last year though, against good teams too.

 

[wvpaper]

This is not a discussion of fan dedication

A few "fans" could see, without any doubt, that Dana is a horrible coach over a year ago. I knew it in Geno, Tavon, and Bailey's final year, a year that should have been special.

Many more "fans", needed Dana's ineptitude to be made painfully and devastatingly clear before they could see it.

The few that had it right, deserve no apologies. We dont need that. Let's just try to move forward. Clean slate.

 

[Samuel S]

I'm pretty sure many people were saying the QB play would not suffice against decent teams, that the offensive line was a problem and, granted a general statement, but an important one, that we still looked porr at fundamentals an discipline and not well coached.

 

[Boomboom521]

This is not a discussion of fan dedication

A few "fans" could see, without any doubt, that Dana is a horrible coach over a year ago. I knew it in Geno, Tavon, and Bailey's final year, a year that should have been special.

Many more "fans", needed Dana's ineptitude to be made painfully and devastatingly clear before they could see it.

The few that had it right, deserve no apologies. We dont need that. Let's just try to move forward. Clean slate.

I agree about that year, but we were still struggling to find a solid defense. I thought Clint's second year would be a good year, but again we were going with a new defensive coordinator. That was my biggest concern with Dana then....his lack of being able to hire or keep the right assistants. Now, I do have bigger concerns

 

[Boomboom521]

I'm pretty sure many people were saying the QB play would not suffice against decent teams, that the offensive line was a problem and, granted a general statement, but an important one, that we still looked porr at fundamentals an discipline and not well coached.

I agree that some fundamentals looked off, but it was the first two games and we did soundly beat both teams. O-line play hasn't been horrible, we have ran the ball decently. Skyler doesn't look good (and that concerns me, because I thought that was Holgs bread and butter)

 

[Boomboom521]

I'm pretty sure many people were saying the QB play would not suffice against decent teams, that the offensive line was a problem and, granted a general statement, but an important one, that we still looked porr at fundamentals an discipline and not well coached.

Also.....I don't believe any fan is less (or more for that matter) dedicated than me, no matter what they think of the coaches. I just think some are a little more positive, honest, and open minded. And some are less knowledgable about (this is me)....hence coming aboard to get insight. Admit it: it's hard to find insight on here.....easy to find a lot of people blowing smoke though

 

[torontoeers]

I agree about that year, but we were still struggling to find a solid defense. I thought Clint's second year would be a good year, but again we were going with a new defensive coordinator. That was my biggest concern with Dana then....his lack of being able to hire or keep the right assistants. Now, I do have bigger concerns

Indeed Clint's second year should have been a good one and it was headed in that direction until the injury or even injuries took him out....and yes we sure do have bigger concerns now...the inability to find a suitable replacement and mounting injuries on D are only a few of them...some things were out of Dana's control and some he had the ability to address ...seems it's time to put this puppy to bed soon and start a new chapter imo...

 

[torontoeers]

She... ...but yea, there was no need for my 'clown' comment.

My apologies to the lady...

 

[Pushingtin]

who cares if he/she is saying I told you so.....many of us have been attacked and ignored for the simple fault in realizing early that Dana just wasn't and probably never would be a good head coach.
I'm sure OP never wanted us to lose. I wish that we could be 6-1 right now in spite of Dana being coach even if it meant Dana being here longer. But it has become evident that we will never beat teams that we are evenly matched with talent on a consistent basis with Dana walking the sidelines......teams are ill prepared, lack that fire in the belly needed, piss poor clock management, piss poor play calling, piss poor player evaluations and training and an over all lack of discipline needed to even be a good team.
I take no joy in being correct about Dana because that means we will be in the bottom of the Big 12 again. Don't give me that crap about 8-4 either.......our remaining schedule of 5 teams have a combined 15 wins if I'm not mistaken. Finishing 8-4 only means that we beat the teams we should have beaten and lost to the only teams on our schedule that were good

 

[Boomboom521]

who cares if he/she is saying I told you so.....many of us have been attacked and ignored for the simple fault in realizing early that Dana just wasn't and probably never would be a good head coach.
I'm sure OP never wanted us to lose. I wish that we could be 6-1 right now in spite of Dana being coach even if it meant Dana being here longer. But it has become evident that we will never beat teams that we are evenly matched with talent on a consistent basis with Dana walking the sidelines......teams are ill prepared, lack that fire in the belly needed, piss poor clock management, piss poor play calling, piss poor player evaluations and training and an over all lack of discipline needed to even be a good team.
I take no joy in being correct about Dana because that means we will be in the bottom of the Big 12 again. Don't give me that crap about 8-4 either.......our remaining schedule of 5 teams have a combined 15 wins if I'm not mistaken. Finishing 8-4 only means that we beat the teams we should have beaten and lost to the only teams on our schedule that were good

And I just think many people on here think it is way too easy to be successful in the college football landscape today. VT, Miami, Notre Dame, even USC have struggled to find the coaches that can make their teams great. The gap is thinner now, and sometimes (aka Jimbo Fisher) is takes some time for a coach to click. I think some people are thinking they are better at knowing play calling, clock management, and preparation then they are in reality.

 

[Boomboom521]

who cares if he/she is saying I told you so.....many of us have been attacked and ignored for the simple fault in realizing early that Dana just wasn't and probably never would be a good head coach.
I'm sure OP never wanted us to lose. I wish that we could be 6-1 right now in spite of Dana being coach even if it meant Dana being here longer. But it has become evident that we will never beat teams that we are evenly matched with talent on a consistent basis with Dana walking the sidelines......teams are ill prepared, lack that fire in the belly needed, piss poor clock management, piss poor play calling, piss poor player evaluations and training and an over all lack of discipline needed to even be a good team.
I take no joy in being correct about Dana because that means we will be in the bottom of the Big 12 again. Don't give me that crap about 8-4 either.......our remaining schedule of 5 teams have a combined 15 wins if I'm not mistaken. Finishing 8-4 only means that we beat the teams we should have beaten and lost to the only teams on our schedule that were good

And I just think many people on here think it is way too easy to be successful in the college football landscape today. VT, Miami, Notre Dame, even USC have struggled to find the coaches that can make their teams great. The gap is thinner now, and sometimes (aka Jimbo Fisher) is takes some time for a coach to click. I think some people are thinking they are better at knowing play calling, clock management, and preparation then they are in reality. And the I told you so's are just annoying. Post a specific rant, or make specific points.....but I'm talking about those that just post generalized "Dana sucks" rants.....I call BS. I think it's still a tough call on whether Dana can be successful. I'm worried, don't get me wrong, but not sure about anything. Get specific, change my mind. Otherwise, what's the point?

 

[wbgvwbgv]

What are the trolls & low information fans going to say when WVU wins their bowl game this year and Dana get another extension?

WVU conference opponents so far are now 28-1 and and all ranked in the Top 15.

 

[Orlaco]

What are the trolls & low information fans going to say when WVU wins their bowl game this year and Dana get another extension?

WVU conference opponents so far are now 28-1 and and all ranked in the Top 15.

Wouldn't 'low information' be speculating that WVU will not only receive a bowl invite but also win the game (even without knowing who we would be playing) ? 'High information ' would be the absolute fact that WVU has a losing record. No speculation...just a truth.

I hope DH does win out (and I'd even agree it's possible)....but the idea of another extension is laughable.

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So what are you going to say if WVU loses another game ? Are you going to apologize and admit you were mistaken? Doubtful.

 

[Samuel S]

He'll blame you and your skeptical ilk for undermining his pwecious lil Dana with negativity.

Love is blind.

 

[wbgvwbgv]

Wouldn't 'low information' be speculating that WVU will not only receive a bowl invite but also win the game (even without knowing who we would be playing) ? 'High information ' would be the absolute fact that WVU has a losing record. No speculation...just a truth.

I hope DH does win out (and I'd even agree it's possible)....but the idea of another extension is laughable.

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So what are you going to say if WVU loses another game ? Are you going to apologize and admit you were mistaken? Doubtful.

Even though his current contract runs all the way to 2018, if he wins out then a contract extension is almost a given. Coaches will always be chastised on a free troll board (especially after a loss), but an 8-4 record plus a bowl win and he is here for a long time.

 

[MikeRafone]

I thought "Boom, Boom" was a John Lee Hooker song? You might want to check with Hook's kids before you violate their Daddy's copyright.

John Lee Hooker didn't play golf. He was a man. Played guitar, shot craps, and didn't wear shorts or knickers while prancing around a pasture with a sack of sticks.

This younger generation has gone to Hell.