I was sitting on the Vandy side right behind their bench when that play developed. I immediately saw what was going on, evidently every coach in the booth missed it or didn't relay it to field coaches, and of course, our defensive backs were clueless, however they were dancing up a storm during the timeout that preceded the play, and not one freakin defender notices only 10 offensive players were in formation. It epitomizes everything wrong with this year, not prepared, not focused, no attention to detail, and more worried about dancing and preening than the next play....You think a top twenty program gets fooled like that, I think not........
Were you satisfied with what Stoops had to say on KSR?
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listened to the whole broadcast, thought I was on this site, nothing but excuses. Stoops must be posting on this site. TAKE RESPONSIBILITY., your getting paid millions. He didn't answer the questions directly and seemed combative. Reminds me of Barnhart, between the two think we're stuck with both for three more years. Same ole SH@T.
Why does this guy keep bringing up the past about coaches like Claiborne and Brooks? He isn't even in their league. The truth is, the only past he should mention is Joker since that is (unfortunately) his most appropriate comparison in terms of demonstrated ability.
Once he demonstrates he is better than Joker he can then go after the guys like Claiborne and Brooks. No problem.
It is time for him to just shut up with the talking and the excuses and just do his job. Competently. On the field.
Once he demonstrates he is better than Joker he can then go after the guys like Claiborne and Brooks. No problem.
It is time for him to just shut up with the talking and the excuses and just do his job. Competently. On the field.
Don't think he ever said that this team would compete for the East title. He has said that is always the goal...to compete for titles. He has said that they always plan and prepare to win every game...that isn't the same as saying they will do something.
If Stoops' interview gave you hope..... do some soul searching on why you are so gullible and easily manipulated.
Either Stoops is giving his coach speak because he's a stubborn jerk and thinks he's never wrong. Or because he has no clue how to right the ship and is in over his head. Either way his interview just made me more upset.
Either Stoops is giving his coach speak because he's a stubborn jerk and thinks he's never wrong. Or because he has no clue how to right the ship and is in over his head. Either way his interview just made me more upset.
It was a good interview. The one thing I did like was the mention of some stats showing the gap is closing when it comes to recruiting and depth. He said some things I liked but it hardly means I'm back on board or he instilled any confidence in me he can get the job done here. Guy has always said the right thing dating back to the time he was hired. Time to put up or shut up in year 4. He said we would be better but I don't believe him
I thought it was a good interview,yes I disappointed in this years team , oh yea i was, but the talent he inherited , was not good and it takes a while, to get and development of those players.....football takes way longer than basketball to rebuild a team,... Give him time, fans wanted coach brooks fired after 3 year also......
Some of the problems on this team have absolutely nothing to do witth it being in year 3 of a rebuild. Frankly it was an epic failure by the coaching staff
Did you even listen to the words he said? He did take responsibility. The guy can't win with some of you folks.
Pedro, your right, every team has injuries, but when your not two or three deep at every position, then injuries hurt you more then a team like Alabama, Fl. LSU or most of the other teams in the SEC. That is one of the reasons a new coach usually needs 5 years to get his players, where injuries don't affect them as much.
OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!
That's what the UK fan base is looking for...hope and change. Change in a lot of areas including a few more W's.
I have to say I Agree! But I am an optimist! You have to give him 2 more years because of the buyout and he has done what NO other coach has done as far as recruiting and bringing in $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!
To say he can't coach is ignorant. Yes he did not have a good year by any means. He made mistakes but those mistakes he made can be learned from and fixed. The man just finished his 3rd season as a first time head coach. If you expected a polished and hall of fame caliber coach at the start you are just simply unrealistic. No I am not even remotely happy or satisfied with this coaching staff to this point. But to give up on them and saynthey can't coach because of a few bone headed mistakes isn't fair to them or the players. If your a true BBN member you root for the the name on the front of the jersey no matter what.
Most everyone wanted staff changes and he came out and said their would be some. It just seems like some fans will never be happy no matter what. You can't say he isn't able to develope talent because the players he are bringing in have yet to graduate. The players that have graduated never seemed to have that high of ceilings to begin with. You shouldn't judge a players growth until the last game has been played. Some players don't reach the peak until the final season or 2. Then there is the sheer fact that a lot of player's that needed and should have been redshirted weren't able to because the lack of talent an depth he inherited.
Give the man next season to see if he has managed to grow as a head coach. If not send him packing. If he proves and shows he has progressed regardless of the overall record. Then give him one more season so he has a team compiled of nothing but his players. Then their would be no reason for excuses such as talent and depth because the state of the program is in that position because of him and his staff.
The would also be one added benefit of giving him that much time. Recruiting in all the years I have been following football which is 20+. I haven't seen anyone able to recruit at the level Stoop's and company have. So no one knows if the next coach should Stoop's be fired will be able to recruit at the same level. With 5 years of this staff recruiting the next coach in theory should inherit according to recruiting ranks the most talented UK team of my time. Which would make their job easier and prove to the fans if Stoop's is a bad coach.
Most everyone wanted staff changes and he came out and said their would be some. It just seems like some fans will never be happy no matter what. You can't say he isn't able to develope talent because the players he are bringing in have yet to graduate. The players that have graduated never seemed to have that high of ceilings to begin with. You shouldn't judge a players growth until the last game has been played. Some players don't reach the peak until the final season or 2. Then there is the sheer fact that a lot of player's that needed and should have been redshirted weren't able to because the lack of talent an depth he inherited.
Give the man next season to see if he has managed to grow as a head coach. If not send him packing. If he proves and shows he has progressed regardless of the overall record. Then give him one more season so he has a team compiled of nothing but his players. Then their would be no reason for excuses such as talent and depth because the state of the program is in that position because of him and his staff.
The would also be one added benefit of giving him that much time. Recruiting in all the years I have been following football which is 20+. I haven't seen anyone able to recruit at the level Stoop's and company have. So no one knows if the next coach should Stoop's be fired will be able to recruit at the same level. With 5 years of this staff recruiting the next coach in theory should inherit according to recruiting ranks the most talented UK team of my time. Which would make their job easier and prove to the fans if Stoop's is a bad coach.
Schwump, I think Stoops brings up the history over and over because even though he was caught off guard by the fan interest when he got here, he was still a little surprised by the level of discontent and fire in the fan base after the crash . . . for a fan base that probably shouldn't care THAT MUCH given the past. On the other side I think he also sits there at night and thinks to himself ..... Wow can you believe how much they want a winner here! And I think that also is driving him to fix this if he can. That's why I believe he really wants it for himself and the fans. He saw what we did filling that stadium up for that first blue/white game at a "basketball school" after 3 disastrous years and knows how much this fan base wants it. I don't like all of how he's reacted but I can also give him a break in that as a proud young coach I can't say I wouldn't have done the same thing.
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I don't agree with your comment that saying he can't coach is ignorant. I can tell you that I can't coach and most of the posters on this site can't coach. But I can identify someone that CAN coach as well as someone that CAN'T coach after watching thousands of games over the years. I can tell you and anyone willing to listen that Stoops isn't remotely capable of being a head coach in the SEC. Right now he's just being a typical bad politician. He's saying what anyone on the hot seat would say. He's trying to please the fans and keep his job. Does anyone think he would say "man I just can't do the job. I'm in over my head here" ? He's going to do the coachspeak 'thing' until he's forced out just like Joker. I wish I could say he just needs more time but in reality he's just delaying the inevitable. Sad but true.
Fans on this site are amazing,they expect Stoops to coach and win like Calipari,with top 35recruiting . Give Calipari top 35 recruiting classes,and see how good of coach he is! Talent covers up a lot of coaching mistakes,like the Wisconsin final 4 game,when Ulis sat on the bench ,and we stalled to the loss!
Weak Questions- Typical Coach speak answers. Jones failed to pin Stoops down on specifics of how his plans were going to change. Other questions that were not asked- The confusion on the sidelines, mis-alignment of the defenses vs Miss State, 8 men on the field on a punt team. not calling time out when Vandy tricked their way to victory. Not holding players accountable like when Josh Forrest threw the ball into the stands giving Louisville the ball near mid-field that started the UL comeback. Not holding coaches and players accountable & thus repeated mistakes by the same players and coaches. I am pi$$ed off.
Not believing any more talk...only buying results from this point forward...will be getting my tickets again until Stoops is let go and if we bring in another coach with no experience that isn't named Mike Leach or Jeff Brohm...I'm done...not with being a fan just spending my money...been there since CWS opened
Actually that was Towles that made that statement on Paul Finebaum's show, not Stoops.
Exactly my problem...hell we all know and can see what the issues are, but I want to know WHAT you are going to do to change the problem and how damn long does it take to look like we, including the coaches, look like we know what the hell we are doing...don't tell us , show us!!!
Because he didn't give one except we "want to be balanced...people can talk about defense and "being balanced" all they want , but not putting enough points on the scoreboard--avg.28-35 ppg--kept UK from being a 7-8 win team this year
Lots of times you hear what you want to hear. and it sounds like you don't want to hear anything good.
CMS was supposedly a great DC. After watching his defensive schemes for the last three years, there is nothing you can point to that makes you think his coaching is special. Has he ever made good game adjustments that gives you an ounce of confidence? I wish someone would ask him how much tape of UofL he and his staff actually watched. It is one thing to say that UofL changing QBs caught the coaches off guard, but not to understand how incredulous it would sound to both knowledgable fans and idiotic fans like me, is simply off the charts. There is no questioning CMS's salesmanship talent, but can only have great doubts about CEO management skills and game day adjustments capability.
That's what I never like when a local sports personality (in this case M Jones) who is close to the team/program does the interview. You get softball questions. The interviewer doesn't want to hinder any relationship with the coach. If so then access could be denied. Doesn't want to jeopardize his job with higher ups, etc. So you rarely get real hard hitting questions with follow-up questions to answers that are incomplete, etc.
As far as not mentioning specific players and/or holding them accountable...I can see that. I don't think a coach needs to mention players by name when they screw up. If I was a parent who's son was a player, or a recruit's parent, a coach calling out a player would kind of upset me. The fans know what player screws up, so I don't think the coach needs to. Now his coaching staff might be another thing, but there again he's trying to be diplomatic. Besides, who knows that perhaps one day 20 years from now Stoops is working for one of his assistants on his staff today?
Did you play football? No defensive player on the field ever counts the number of offensive players. It does not happen.
I have been as hard on Stoops as anyone but I dont understand what people wanted him to say. I actually thought he did pretty good in the interview, he was honest in some points and generic in others just like any other coach in the country would be. I actually thought he was more forthcoming than I was anticipating, and I appreciate that as a fan, but that doesnt change my view on his failures or what he needs to do this season to turn this thing around.
No, you didn't. Some on here would have only been happy if Stoops announced he was firing the whole staff, threw Boom/Baker/Towles completely under the bus, and then quit on the spot. Anything else he said was going to piss folks off or get twisted in a way to piss folks off.
It's all kabuki theater and he knows it. He's either going to succeed or not, but either way he's already been paid. Mitch is the one who needs to answer for his actions.
Saw on KSR where they did a twitter poll. After hearing Stoops interview.... 50% are now more optimistic, 41% are indifferent & 9% are now more pessimistic. Or something like that.
With all of that said, it sure seems like the 9% are all active posters on this board.
With all of that said, it sure seems like the 9% are all active posters on this board.
From what I remember, he didn't use the "history" of UK football as an excuse. He said knowing the history, he can understand the fans frustrations.because they've been waiting a long time. That's what I took from it, at least.
He also said he loved the fans at the basketball game and how passionate they are, and wants to provide that for the football fans as well. Said it bothers him to think he has disappointed people who are looking for that. Then went on to say, "We WILL get it done here. I promise you that." Of course, everybody will pick that apart, but that's exactly what I want to hear from my head coach. It's an interview and he's not on the sidelines doing an interview.
I could hear the fire he has and I absolutely feel he has a blue collar mentality. If he doesn't get it done here, it's not because he's not giving every single thing he has and right now, that's what I want.... someone to bust their tail to get this program where it's never been.
He has a lot of learning to do as a coach, but like Rich Brooks said, he's a "rookie" head coach and these things happen as you grow.
Loved the interview.
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As if this never happens to anybody else. Every single person on this board has thought something was going to go one way, believed it with everything in us, only to see it go the other direction.
I'll say it again: Stoops has a lot of learning to do. But to call him a hypocrite is silly.
Barnyard needs to start making a list of replacements. It is not going to happen, he is way over his head. Not a Head Coach. The most un-organized staff in college football.
I think running the ball up the middle out of shotgun 3 plays in a row needing one yard for a TD is what killed the team IMO. Even with that trick play. We should've won. Coaching staff left 17 points on the field that day
calling him a hypocrite is silly? He said this team is significantly better than last years team. His words were that this team is wayyyyyy better than the year before and for everyone to come out and be 'all in' for a special season. To now saying just because we have a renovated stadium it doesn't mean he can just wave a magic wand and put a good team on the field. Considering what he said before the season, to what he said yesterday. It really couldn't have been anymore hypocritical. It's called making excuses for poor play, he's really good at it. To me it's just further proof he's in way over his head, that and the zero experience staff he put together and the fact he's still not hiring an ST coach after the frequent disaster that was our special teams just screams way in over his head. And to say it's silly calling him a hypocrit, is just downright hilarious I guess there's a definition for the word hypocrit that I just don't know about so maybe you're right. But to say a team is significantly better, to then saying he can't just wave a magic wand and put a good team on the field. Is just another excuse out of a long line of excuses to save face. I really don't see how he could've been anymore hypocritical and for you to say it's silly to call him that is straight comedy.
Andre, I think you got your wish on the Offensive side of the ball. Not sure if more are to come, but I am excited to think of what prospects he could possible bring to Lexington. He has to have some hook ups.