What are the chances we get a new QB during the off season?

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Skylar may be a nice kid, but he's going to hold us back next year if we don't find a replacement. Frustrating win today, lots of mental mistakes and fortunate ISU committed a couple turnovers in the first half.
 

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Skylar may be a nice kid, but he's going to hold us back next year if we don't find a replacement. Frustrating win today, lots of mental mistakes and fortunate ISU committed a couple turnovers in the first half.
Is it time to cut the fellow some slack? Appears DH is going to use him as long as he is available. Perhaps he does not measure up to a couple guys we have had in the past, but coach feels he is the best for the system at this time. Actually he has been doing rather well when the competition drops. There are not many positions that could be improved upon. There have been games when the DBs were weaker than QB. Other times that is was LBs that didn't measure up. Then OL or DL. Receivers have been between great and "they have potential".

I really thought we had better team with more talent and depth, and experience than is normal for WV. That leaves the coaching staff. But at this particular time, we appear to be the good team that I thought we were in the early summer and Fall. If AD is not going to move on DH now, let us wait for the bowl game and see if they are as good as I think they are at this time.

Someone screwed up with a 70 yd TD in the Oklahoma game. Probably the same thing that ruined the prior years bit again and we lost Ok & OkState that would have us in the double digit win and a chance to win 11. That one play gave us two losses and unreasonable scores with Baylor and TCU. I didn't envision our defense. Giving up those numbers. Yes, QB had TOs that added to easy scores.
 

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Is it time to cut the fellow some slack? Appears DH is going to use him as long as he is available.
Thank you. How many more games must Howard win for us before people shut up talking about his lack of ability? All this jabber about Dana needing to "find" a quarterback drives me up the wall -- it's apparent to anyone with eyes to see that as far as he's concerned he has "found" his quarterback in Skyler Howard, and I don't know why people insist on hinting that he's deliberately hiding a better player. Why would he do that, when his job depends on winning games? It all reminds me of an exchange Don Nehlen supposedly had when someone asked him if he gave Rich Rodriguez any advice. "He doesn't need my advice, he's got 60,000 assistants in the stands telling him what to do every week," Nehlen said.
 

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Skylar may be a nice kid, but he's going to hold us back next year if we don't find a replacement. Frustrating win today, lots of mental mistakes and fortunate ISU committed a couple turnovers in the first half.
If another QB gives us a better chance to win, I believe he would be in the game. I honestly do not think this team or probably next year's team is championship quality without the #1 QB in the country. We are not going to have the #1 QB in the country so fans need to be realistic. I'm sickened by what fan bases do to great programs like UGA and LSU and many others across the country and I hate that is very prevalent at WVU. Yes, it would be nice to be in the National Championship hunt every year but at WVU that is only going to happen on a very rare basis.
 

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Dana is playing the best QB he has. SH should be better next year and I expect him to be the starter. If we signed the # 1 QB recruit,which won't happen, for next year I doubt he would be able to step right in. First , all we heard that Crest was the answer, and now many have been saying that Chugs is the second coming. It was clear to me after watching the open practices and the spring game that SH is the best we have.
 

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Skylar may be a nice kid, but he's going to hold us back next year if we don't find a replacement. Frustrating win today, lots of mental mistakes and fortunate ISU committed a couple turnovers in the first half.
I agree with everyone else's assessment here. This will be Howard's team next year. Yes, his passing skills are often questionable and his nerves are always his biggest dilemma in the first quarter. But he is still the best QB we have and I have the feeling his understanding of the offense is way above anyone else we have, even though his execution makes us cringe at times.

Truth is, he may lead us to a 9-4 season and we never expected that.
 

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I agree with everyone else's assessment here. This will be Howard's team next year. Yes, his passing skills are often questionable and his nerves are always his biggest dilemma in the first quarter. But he is still the best QB we have and I have the feeling his understanding of the offense is way above anyone else we have, even though his execution makes us cringe at times.

Truth is, he may lead us to a 9-4 season and we never expected that.
A 9-4 season I did expect. I just think we will be looking at another 7/8/9 win season at best with him next year, barring a major improvement in his passing ability and reads. Dana's hinged his job on him, and I completely agree and understand that it's the best QB we have right now, but that's what bugs me going into next season.
 

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A 9-4 season I did expect. I just think we will be looking at another 7/8/9 win season at best with him next year, barring a major improvement in his passing ability and reads. Dana's hinged his job on him, and I completely agree and understand that it's the best QB we have right now, but that's what bugs me going into next season.
All of the current qbs on the roster are going to have a winter, spring and summer to improve. That means Howard may get more consistent with him passing or that someone else will pass him on the depth chart. Either way, I think 7-9 wins is pretty decent. I would like to see seasons with more wins than that, but I was a senior in high school before WVU registered their first double-digit victory season.
 

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I agree with everyone else's assessment here. This will be Howard's team next year. Yes, his passing skills are often questionable and his nerves are always his biggest dilemma in the first quarter. But he is still the best QB we have and I have the feeling his understanding of the offense is way above anyone else we have, even though his execution makes us cringe at times.

Truth is, he may lead us to a 9-4 season and we never expected that.
I fully expected 10-2 regular season.
All of the current qbs on the roster are going to have a winter, spring and summer to improve. That means Howard may get more consistent with him passing or that someone else will pass him on the depth chart. Either way, I think 7-9 wins is pretty decent. I would like to see seasons with more wins than that, but I was a senior in high school before WVU registered their first double-digit victory season.
Hopefully, we have 4 QBs on the roster with room for improvement. Which one wants it most to invest the time to improve his game and master DH's system. Crest may be asked to spend some time with a QB instructor. He excelled in HS with physical talent. Now he needs to let the game slow down and he needs to add some touch and accuracy to his passes.

I would think Chugs and Sill have the farthest to go, and am very disappointed in DH to NOT give them a couple series in the games we were far enough ahead. Crest was given all of those minutes. Chuggs has obviously been redshirted. Was he capable of completing 60% of his passes. Reportedly, he practiced rather well. Sill was reported to be running very well as practice "opposition" QB. After those raving reports, he was brought in as receiver and impressed all of us.

4 potential QBs next year and Sky is going to have to improve his accuracy with short outs and crossing receiver to keep starting position. Trick certainly made giant strides in accuracy going into his final year. Sky is starter if he improves half as much as Trick did. Complete 60-65% and DH stays with Sky. Less, and that special guy who improves more will be the replacement prior to conference games, IMO.
 

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I would think Chugs and Sill have the farthest to go, and am very disappointed in DH to NOT give them a couple series in the games we were far enough ahead. Crest was given all of those minutes. Chuggs has obviously been redshirted. Was he capable of completing 60% of his passes. Reportedly, he practiced rather well. Sill was reported to be running very well as practice "opposition" QB. After those raving reports, he was brought in as receiver and impressed all of us.
I think the rave reviews for Sills as the practice opposition QB was when we wanted someone to emulate the GA State offense - that run-heavy read option style they played. Most of the praise I've heard about both him and Crest has to do with their athletic ability. So next year Howard will be a senior, Crest and Sills will be sophomores, and Chugs will be a freshman. I think Sills was going to be red shirted until they came to a mutual decision to try him at WR this season. After that, I think they were trying to keep him focused at that spot. I kind of wanted to see him run a few plays at QB in garbage time too though, especially in that Kansas game. We could have repped both Crest and Sills. Chugs was never going to get game reps though. They don't want to burn that red shirt.
 
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A 9-4 season I did expect. I just think we will be looking at another 7/8/9 win season at best with him next year, barring a major improvement in his passing ability and reads. Dana's hinged his job on him, and I completely agree and understand that it's the best QB we have right now, but that's what bugs me going into next season.

Agree completely. I wouldn't be surprised if we win against K State and win the bowl game to finish a nice year (the Ok State game still bothers me). SH has heart, guts and determination, just a little lacking in the skill level we need in the Big XII. With a little bit of a drop off in defense next year, I predict a 7-5 season.
 

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Agree completely. I wouldn't be surprised if we win against K State and win the bowl game to finish a nice year (the Ok State game still bothers me). SH has heart, guts and determination, just a little lacking in the skill level we need in the Big XII. With a little bit of a drop off in defense next year, I predict a 7-5 season.
Our defense is going to drop off more than a little next year. We lose the majority of the defensive backfield and other key players in the LB and Def line positions. Hopefully, we will backfill them nicely and we do have some underclassmen with good experience.
 

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Our defense is going to drop off more than a little next year. We lose the majority of the defensive backfield and other key players in the LB and Def line positions. Hopefully, we will backfill them nicely and we do have some underclassmen with good experience.
I feel pretty good about the first unit D. We will have 2nd unit that has little to no game experience. Gaining game experience on the run is a bit dangerous. Back to first 22 getting all the snaps or injury replacement. Bad in this conference. We fat boys struggle in heat over a 100.
 

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Our defense is going to drop off more than a little next year. We lose the majority of the defensive backfield and other key players in the LB and Def line positions. Hopefully, we will backfill them nicely and we do have some underclassmen with good experience.
I think CB is a big concern for next year. I'll assume that Worley stays for his senior year, but we lose Chestnut and Rumph. We have Kyeremeh for one more year, same with Douglas and Sharif (he's been playing FS mostly though). That's not a ton of depth - we do have a true freshman redshirting, Adams. That's it. We're going to have to add to that depth. Some folks are going to be getting way too many reps in a pass-happy league if anyone falls to injury. I'm not sure who is being recruited right now, but 4 seniors and a RS frosh at that position puts you in a bad place going into 2017. Maybe someone can shift over from safety or WR, but it looks like we need at least one JUCO CB and probably at least 2 other CBs in the 2016 class to stand a chance at having some depth there in the future.

On the line, we'll have 3 seniors starting in 2016 - most likely Brown, Nwachukwu at DE and Howard at NT. We still have some depth behind them too, less so at NT though. We're okay at LB also - our back ups aren't seniors, and they've seen a lot of quality time. We'll have some drop off at S - I suspect Tyler and Harper will be in Dillon and Joseph's spots. Those guys can play, and Askew-Henry is back.

We'll see some drop off for sure overall, but I think we have the makings of a pretty good defense, if we can stay healthy.