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ClownBaby

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Assuming they can start getting back to the playoffs WWS is about 2 years away from dropping to 6A, the school is shrinking alarmingly fast.
 

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Waubonsie is just a couple hundred students from hitting the 7A threshold.

But look At the cutoff from 2009 for 7A/8A - it was 2545 students. Now look at it - 2303 students.

I think as all the schools get smaller - only the ones that shrink faster than the others will drop a class. You have to be shrinking faster than the general average from the looks of the cutoffs between classes from 2009 to today.
 
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mc140

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Assuming they can start getting back to the playoffs WWS is about 2 years away from dropping to 6A, the school is shrinking alarmingly fast.

Everyone is losing kids. People leave by the tens of thousands every year.There are 90 schools with over 2k enrollment this year. In 2009 there were 126.
 

ClownBaby

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Everyone is losing kids. People leave by the tens of thousands every year.There are 90 schools with over 2k enrollment this year. In 2009 there were 126.

In 2005 WWS had 2600 kids and this year they have 1982 and the school will be shrinking for the next 7-8 years. The one feeder Middle school is only around 60% occupancy so they could realistically drop below 1700 kids soon. The elementary schools are starting to grow rapidly again but those kids are years away from high school.
 

Nape

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Assuming they can start getting back to the playoffs WWS is about 2 years away from dropping to 6A, the school is shrinking alarmingly fast.
Very interesting. What is the root cause? Lack of young families with kids moving into the district?
 

ClownBaby

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Very interesting. What is the root cause? Lack of young families with kids moving into the district?

Its the opposite empty nesters not moving out, the percentage of households with no kids in the school system is high and there is very limited housing stock. I look at my neighborhood and every house that goes on the market is selling relatively quickly to families with young kids but once you get to about age 8 or 9 there are no kids older then that around here. Its like a donut and WWS is entering into the empty middle then its population is going to explode once it hits the other side of the donut.
 
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I knew I saw that table somewhere...

And for the few people who think the district idea is a good one, realize this...there are usually only about 60 schools with enrollments above the 8A cutoff (one of which is Mother's MIghty Macs)...so, if the average is 68 schools per district class, there will be about 8 more schools enrollment wise in 8A - pushing the 7A/8A cutoff down...which, in turn, will likely push the 6A/7A cutoff down...Those 8 teams pushed into 8A will result in a lower percentage of 8A enrollment schools making the playoffs - at which point the howling will likely become unbearable (instead of 32 of the 60 biggest being in 8A, it will be 32 of the 68)...
 

Nape

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Its the opposite empty nesters not moving out, the percentage of households with no kids in the school system is high and there is very limited housing stock. I look at my neighborhood and every house that goes on the market is selling relatively quickly to families with young kids but once you get to about age 8 or 9 there are no kids older then that around here. Its like a donut and WWS is entering into the empty middle then its population is going to explode once it hits the other side of the donut.
Yea. That was sort of my insinuation....empty nesters sticking around. My ‘hood has the same but it’s so large that we still get an influx of young families with kids.

I know NV enrollment is down the last 10 years as well. Maybe the great flight out of state is the main root cause? I know plenty of friends and neighbors who have left for AZ, SC, NC, TN, and Texas.
 

ClownBaby

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Yea. That was sort of my insinuation....empty nesters sticking around. My ‘hood has the same but it’s so large that we still get an influx of young families with kids.

I know NV enrollment is down the last 10 years as well. Maybe the great flight out of state is the main root cause? I know plenty of friends and neighbors who have left for AZ, SC, NC, TN, and Texas.

D204 has so much open land that will still end up as housing developments, Wheaton on the other hand is pretty much built out other then tear downs and Warrenville is stagnant. Its a very good time to be a home seller in Wheaton.
 
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I predict Huntley will be a 9A school in 5 years and they’ll still be in the FVC.

Nah. They are going to go to districts. All this Conference jumping and angling for the best way to consistently make the playoffs is going to push the IHSA and voters to head the district route.
 

Nape

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D204 has so much open land that will still end up as housing developments, Wheaton on the other hand is pretty much built out other then tear downs and Warrenville is stagnant. Its a very good time to be a home seller in Wheaton.
True dat. Down here where I live the Wagner’s just sold their produce and tree farm to a developer. It’s right on 59 behind Neuqua and the Freshman campus. I’d say another 200+- new homes.
 

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Nah. They are going to go to districts. All this Conference jumping and angling for the best way to consistently make the playoffs is going to push the IHSA and voters to head the district route.
Huntley is CG’s Captain Ahab. I don’t see them jumping ship.
 

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Huntley is CG’s Captain Ahab. I don’t see them jumping ship.

They won’t have a choice. They will get pushed down a flight of stairs into an 8A district. I’m sure they will vote for no district though as I’m sure they are quite comfortable where they are at present.
 
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I didn't mean to send this on a district conversation...That said, realistically too many district options may send schools on either far-flung road trips or back into the teeth of the monsters they were trying to escape (Seneca & Dwight back to Wilmington...Herscher & Manteno with McNamara...Paxton with St. Joes, Tolono Unity & Monticello - with Hoopeston bumped up...does Rochester want back into the old Corn Belt, or vice versa...) This, combined with chopping probably 6 of the 70 biggest schools out of the playoffs every year, would seem to make districts difficult...
 

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I didn't mean to send this on a district conversation...That said, realistically too many district options may send schools on either far-flung road trips or back into the teeth of the monsters they were trying to escape (Seneca & Dwight back to Wilmington...Herscher & Manteno with McNamara...Paxton with St. Joes, Tolono Unity & Monticello - with Hoopeston bumped up...does Rochester want back into the old Corn Belt, or vice versa...) This, combined with chopping probably 6 of the 70 biggest schools out of the playoffs every year, would seem to make districts difficult...

I’m not sure about the 6 of 70 estimate - but yes some people will be totally against districts. Teams that are in stable conferences with lots of cupcakes on the schedule will obviously be against the district idea and vote against it. (Why move to an unknown when the present is so good?). Also teams in conferences with a lot of football history might also be opposed.

Others would be totally for districts such as teams in mixed conferences (6A to 8A mixed) would probably be for districts in most scenarios. Others that have had conferences schuffle every couple years due to some teams angling for the best “situation” to have a better chance to make playoffs,..will also most likely be for districts. It should be an interesting and close vote should it come to a full vote.