What are you doing Oldham County?

[Rex Kwon Do]

^ Great post. The powers-that-be in Louisville have done everything in their power to keep the status quo. Problem wit that is you don't really keep it, you actually fall behind...significantly. I mean there is *no* business investment in Louisville....it's embarrassing and there is nothing to turn it around now. In 30 years we will be a modern day "rust belt" type town.

Along those lines...be pretty cool to go to a NBA playoff game in downtown Louisville, but alas we let a mock neck wearing college athletic director run roughshod over two consecutive total cuck mayors....so yeah. Minor league soccer tho!!!!!

 

[TortElvisII]

It's unAmerican to just rollover and let business build monstrosities wherever they want in your country and/or neighborhood. Good on Oldham County residents for demanding some planning on how their community is developed.

OP is a corporate bootlicker.

Part of the quality of my life is being able to view the night sky to do an amateur hobby. These places come in and totally destroy that.

 

[IkeCat]

I live in rural area and I remark to my wife that it is amazing the number of people that go their whole life without seeing a night sky.

As the number of residential builders increases though the number of people who don't understand light polution increases. Damn mercury vapor and LED lights!

 

[WildcatFan1982]

have you been by the top golf at night? it is BRIGHTER THAN THE SUN! at least thats what the people against it claimed.

 

[TexasTimCat]

People who want industrialized development should live in urban areas, not put that desire on folks who intentionally settle in rural areas.

If you want that life and level of development, live in Louisville or Lexington.

Make the right choice for you, but don't force that choice down my throat and destroy what I and many others have worked a lifetime to establish.

 

[Rex Kwon Do]

have you been by the top golf at night? it is BRIGHTER THAN THE SUN! at least thats what the people against it claimed.

Top Golf was going to usher in waves of crime and drugs. And whores.

I mean the Hurstborne blue hairs made it sound like HB and Oxmoor Woods were going to turn into Compton and Watts.

 

[bigblueinsanity_rivals250340]

No, I'm not. I'm not saying, "F this project entirely. Don't want it in Kentucky at all."

There are alternatives to the original proposal. You don't seem to be considering any possible alternatives regarding location at all.

^Sounds like this company proposing the project isn't actually the tenant. It appears that they just build out the facility and then hope to sell it some other company. If nobody knows who the actual tenant will be, or if there even will be one, then how can you know how many actual jobs there will be?

What happens if they build half the facility and then declare bankruptcy? Something doesn't add up about this company. They don't seem to have any sort of reputation at all. That should be a major red flag. Who funds their projects?

Great points. Plenty of reasons to be hesitant about this secret project despite the fact andy will get to be on tv crowing about the handful of jobs it created.

Its speculative for such a mass land conversion and it was extremely poorly situated for logistical reasons. Although my guess is it is only speculative in a sense, because no way something like this gets built without a tenant. Just no one wants the public to know who that tenant is.

Also as you stated, the smart thing is to have it near an interstate so they get things to and from.

There really isnt much good that will come of it except another photo op for a governor with his eyes on bigger things.

 

[RexBowie]

Louisville and Kentucky are stuck in the times and all the surrounding cities have taken off. I graduated HS in the late 90's and at that time, Louisville, Cincy, Indy and Nashville were all on the same playing field IMO. Now, all of those cities, especially Nashville and Indy) have taken off while Louisville is just stuck. Hell, Columbus OH is more attractive now that Louisville. The only buildings Louisville is building are hotels for conventions. That's it. There are no companies moving to Louisville that are expanding.

Top Golf was mentioned above and that was a cluster f*** held hostage by a few families. There is no reason that should have been stalled as Oxmoor Mall was on its last leg and who wants to live around there with a huge parking lot where all types of bad things happen.

East End bridge....State spent millions more than they should have by building the tunnel instead of going over all the land. Browns and Binghams were behind this.

Witherspoon next to Yum....2012 and maybe 2015 they shut the portion behind the bars and made it a beer garden that weekend that was really cool. They tried to get an Ordinance passed to do that maybe during the warmer months and was shot down. Imagine the cities above doing this.

I know there are a plethora of other instances but just a few off the top of my head in Louisville.

Back to Oldham Co though...this impacts me in no way but in the area they are talking about, it makes zero sense to move it to this area. This again should be along an interstate like the surrounding states do. Oldham Co is growing and will be expanding more in the coming years. You dont put this in a country area not along an interstate.

Meh, if it's private land, it doesn't really matter if you understand why. They obviously believed it was the best location for their business and local protest is why investment has been pulled back. If I lived in this area, I'd be 100% for it with very little hesitation. I keep waiting for someone to say "well, if it was your neighborhood, you wouldn't want this." Absolutely I would (albeit, there is no room where I am). It'd be a great opportunity for local growth.

Fundamentally, I think it comes down to a mindset of defaulting to why? vs a mindset of defaulting to why not? I think it's a lack of vision. You can maintain greenspace while also adapting to modern development.

 

[BankerCat12]

Meh, if it's private land, it doesn't really matter if you understand why. They obviously believed it was the best location for their business and local protest is why investment has been pulled back. If I lived in this area, I'd be 100% for it with very little hesitation. I keep waiting for someone to say "well, if it was your neighborhood, you wouldn't want this." Absolutely I would (albeit, there is no room where I am). It'd be a great opportunity for local growth.

Fundamentally, I think it comes down to a mindset of defaulting to why? vs a mindset of defaulting to why not? I think it's a lack of vision. You can maintain greenspace while also adapting to modern development.

Complete BS you would be fine with this being constructed around your house if you lived there. No one moves to this location to have something like this built. I think I read it would have been the 2nd largest data center in the world?....maybe I misread something but yeah, this spot in Oldham around horse farms is perfect. GTFOH.

 

[BankerCat12]

Not sure how I forgot the more recent travesty in Louisville....the new VA Hospital. Someone got paid (looking at you Blue family) to have this built at the Watterson and Brownsboro by Northfield. That is such a bad location and traffic there will be a nightmare. It does not come anywhere close to fitting the area. St Joseph Childrens Home had land willing to donate to the VA off the Snyder near the Mercedes dealership but they passed on that for this location. That would have been an ideal spot for people coming from the south end and Bullitt/Shelby, etc. I feel really bad for the people in Crossgate (neighborhood right behind the VA) b/c there is no way they could have imagined how large this facility is.

42 out to Prospect, they told down large areas of trees and other growth to put in new massive powe lines to fulfill the need of the hospital. Houses that used to be hidden are now exposed. If I was one of those homeowners, I would be pissed. The "VA water tower" though really fits the neighborhood.

Louisville officials are incompetent.

 

[Glenn's Take]

There is a lot you can say about Louisville government but Oldham County is not part of Louisville so I am not sure what they would have to do with it.

 

[BankerCat12]

There is a lot you can say about Louisville government but Oldham County is not part of Louisville so I am not sure what they would have to do with it.

OP was also talking about the state as well as Louisville. They are both stalling the growth of the state and the city but OP wants to put a super sized complex in a residential and horse community and would not have a problem with it if he lived there.

 

[RexBowie]

OP was also talking about the state as well as Louisville. They are both stalling the growth of the state and the city but OP wants to put a super sized complex in a residential and horse community and would not have a problem with it if he lived there.

Let me be really clear since you think it's cute to be condescending.

I would not have a problem with it if I lived there. I'd personally be excited for the opportunities for my area. I'd be excited about the other commerce it could bring too.

Now, am I a horse guy? Nope. Am I a farm guy? Nope. I am a tech guy in an urban area who loves good ol' American capitalism. I want Kentucky to have a piece of that. I want this state to grow. I want my area to grow. I think both have potential if we could get our heads out of our asses. It's unfortunate that a small amount of people might be upset. I get they like horse farms.

But if I was an objective dictator and had to make the best decision for all people... I'm building the data center. And that's why I'm frustrated by this. There's this pervasive mentality in Kentucky of defaulting to all the reasons why not to do something instead of imagining the opportunities that could come from it.

Do you have to agree? Nope. But I am not going to apologize for stating it.

 

[RexBowie]

There is a lot you can say about Louisville government but Oldham County is not part of Louisville so I am not sure what they would have to do with it.

Eh, it's all Louisville metro. Oldham County wouldn't exist without Louisville. Vast majority of it's growth is Louisville suburbanites moving outward, buying low, selling high.

 

[Ron Mehico]

Let me be really clear since you think it's cute to be condescending.

I would not have a problem with it if I lived there. I'd personally be excited for the opportunities for my area. I'd be excited about the other commerce it could bring too.

Now, am I a horse guy? Nope. Am I a farm guy? Nope. I am a tech guy in an urban area who loves good ol' American capitalism. I want Kentucky to have a piece of that. I want this state to grow. I want my area to grow. I think both have potential if we could get our heads out of our asses. It's unfortunate that a small amount of people might be upset. I get they like horse farms.

But if I was an objective dictator and had to make the best decision for all people... I'm building the data center. And that's why I'm frustrated by this. There's this pervasive mentality in Kentucky of defaulting to all the reasons why not to do something instead of imagining the opportunities that could come from it.

Do you have to agree? Nope. But I am not going to apologize for stating it.

It’s a data center. It’s not a chip manufacturing facility. It’s not a new manufacturing factory. It’s not an IT HQ. It’s just a data center. It’s a giant silver unsightly box with a bunch of computers sucking up resources and employing like 150 people where an actually manufacturing facility the same size would employ thousands. What ancillary businesses come to support a data center? I live just outside Columbus where they are going to build the Intel chip fabricating company. Now THAT is exciting. Or at least was before Intel went to hell and now who knows what’s going to happen. That was going to employ 15,000 high income people and all the businesses that come with it to help it supply its manufacturing. But in addition to that google, Microsoft, and Amazon are building and have built giant billion dollar data centers. Those suck. They are gross, employ very little people, and just suck resources. I see nothing exciting about them. And here in 20 years when they become old technology they’re just going to be large gross wastelands. I have no idea why you’re so excited about a data center.

 

[BankerCat12]

Let me be really clear since you think it's cute to be condescending.

I would not have a problem with it if I lived there. I'd personally be excited for the opportunities for my area. I'd be excited about the other commerce it could bring too.

Now, am I a horse guy? Nope. Am I a farm guy? Nope. I am a tech guy in an urban area who loves good ol' American capitalism. I want Kentucky to have a piece of that. I want this state to grow. I want my area to grow. I think both have potential if we could get our heads out of our asses. It's unfortunate that a small amount of people might be upset. I get they like horse farms.

But if I was an objective dictator and had to make the best decision for all people... I'm building the data center. And that's why I'm frustrated by this. There's this pervasive mentality in Kentucky of defaulting to all the reasons why not to do something instead of imagining the opportunities that could come from it.

Do you have to agree? Nope. But I am not going to apologize for stating it.

I am just glad you are comprehending now and didnt break your phone.

Not sure what part of town you live in, but I am guessing Louisville so with the above proposed location, Jefferson gets nothing from this for taxes. They could build this in the west end where there is ample, empty areas this could fill. On the Snyder around 65 makes alot of sense. Not sure if there is room in the Jtown business park but that could make sense. Out in the country away from an interstate makes zero sense unless you have a hidden agenda you have yet to mention that makes you want it in this location so bad.

 

[FtWorthCat]

Western Hospitality applied as a "private utility," which residents believe is a round-about way of avoiding the zoning of land for agricultural and conversation purposes.

"Conversation purposes", good grief local news is hurting in America.

The local Zoning Board will tell them what use their facility should be permitted under, and if they will need to rezone. "Private Utility" seems correct and the current zoning may be set to accommodate Data Centers, which are a fairly new type of development. I have a lot of experience dealing with Zoning, and it's usually not that hard to get a change from Agricultural to Industrial, if it's zoned Agricultural now. Hard to tell from the sentence above.

They are building data centers close to residential areas all over the Dallas-Fort Worth area. It's not uncommon for a large company to want to keep things private until everything is finalized. I did a lot of development work for Wal-Mart, and they always wanted their name kept secret in the early project stages. Data Centers don't generate a lot of truck traffic compared to a distribution center, so property close to the Interstate isn't critical.

 

[Fact_Checker]

This is called NIMBY. Not In My Back Yard

We want nuclear power, but not in our area.

We want affordable housing, but we don’t want to rezone for density.

We want the homeless to have somewhere to go, but not in our town.

We want industrial jobs, but no one wants to live next to a factory.

I could go on and on and on.

 

[Anon1629204751]

That is a bummer. I always loved the location of that drive-in.

 

[FtWorthCat]

If I were negotiating for a municipality on any of these types of developments that take up a lot of land, I would not give any breaks on property tax. I would make all kinds of concessions in terms of off-site infrastructure (extending roads and utilities to the site) improvements, and other local taxes you could waive, but never on property tax. That way if the company walks away they are still responsible to at least pay the property tax until they sell the land to someone else. That goes for things like stadiums, arenas too.

 

[bnewt]

Pretty key detail being left out here, which is that the new location means scaled back investment. Inexcusable.

We are talking about a project that is about 1.5% of Kentucky’s GDP. You could build 7 Yum! Centers with 6 billion dollars. Jobs lost for decades. Hostile corporate environment. Yet again we lose because of catering to people who can’t see the forest beyond the trees.

haven't followed it closely, but if it was originally set near or in a residential area, glad it was shut down. I'm sure there is an industrial area that could satisfy their needs & leave the residential areas to families.

 

[bnewt]

Is your friend against his real estate growing in value?

and his taxes........

 

[bnewt]

Does it have to be in Oldham?

Plenty of other Ky counties with available land and space.

why couldn't this go in counties where there are no jobs other than minimum wage?

 

[RexBowie]

why couldn't this go in counties where there are no jobs other than minimum wage?

I tried to find something concrete on that and the only thing I found is that Oldham County's infrastructure made it a good location. Not sure why.....

I do know of a place with a lot of coal and water......

(also, environmentalists probably hate me for this thread)

 

[Hank Camacho_rivals115797]

This is called NIMBY. Not In My Back Yard

We want nuclear power, but not in our area.

We want affordable housing, but we don’t want to rezone for density.

We want the homeless to have somewhere to go, but not in our town.

We want industrial jobs, but no one wants to live next to a factory.

I could go on and on and on.

Damn straight. I don't want any of those things in my neighborhood and I'll do anything in my power to keep them out, with the lone exception of a nuclear power plant.

So, likely, would you, if you are honest.

 

[Ron Mehico]

This is called NIMBY. Not In My Back Yard

We want nuclear power, but not in our area.

We want affordable housing, but we don’t want to rezone for density.

We want the homeless to have somewhere to go, but not in our town.

We want industrial jobs, but no one wants to live next to a factory.

I could go on and on and on.

It’s a DATA CENTER. I feel like you guys don’t even know what a data center is. It employees twice as many people as a chic fil a but takes up the size of 25,000 chic fil as.

 

[Ron Mehico]

Here’s a picture of a beautiful data center! Wow, look at this missed opportunity here! Notice anything missing? That’s right - employee parking!

 

[downw/ball-lineD]

There is a proposed 6 billion dollar investment into a data center in Oldham County, setting the area up perfectly for high paying tehcnical jobs and Ai investment. Yet and a loud group of residents trying to prevent it. I’m not overlooking that some people will be annoyed by change, but this is everything that is outraging about Kentucky politics. Our state’s economic growth shouldn’t be hinged on people who opposed change because they like staring at farms. It’s *** backwards.

Thank you.

https://www.whas11.com/article/news...tion/417-793370d3-51be-451a-847c-efcc84c2b48c

Come to Henderson county. We will take the center and jobs

 

[IkeCat]

Make that Western Henderson Co. I live in Western Daviess Co. and don't want the light polution. I enjoy my night sky.

 

[Ukbrassowtipin]

Isn't "keep louisville weird" the entire mantra why the city is stuck and not growing like every other city in the region

 

[Hank Camacho_rivals115797]

Isn't "keep louisville weird" the entire mantra why the city is stuck and not growing like every other city in the region

Sort of. There's also so much crime that TWO Louisville mayors were feloniously assaulted (with one them almost being assassinated)... and the courts there let the (alleged) attempted assassin out on bond.

The topography of that town sucks, imo.

 

[blw]

I tried to find something concrete on that and the only thing I found is that Oldham County's infrastructure made it a good location. Not sure why.....

Could be next-level trolling by Arabs who hate each other? One sheik buys a nice horse farm that he loves, and then his mortal enemy decides to put this monstrosity next door just to piss him off.

 

[RexBowie]

Could be next-level trolling by Arabs who hate each other? One sheik buys a nice horse farm that he loves, and then his mortal enemy decides to put this monstrosity next door just to piss him off.

I actually do imagine some scenario where some sheik is in town for the Derby, is driving out to his horse farm and is like "this place good for data center".

 

[BankerCat12]

I am just glad you are comprehending now and didnt break your phone.

Not sure what part of town you live in, but I am guessing Louisville so with the above proposed location, Jefferson gets nothing from this for taxes. They could build this in the west end where there is ample, empty areas this could fill. On the Snyder around 65 makes alot of sense. Not sure if there is room in the Jtown business park but that could make sense. Out in the country away from an interstate makes zero sense unless you have a hidden agenda you have yet to mention that makes you want it in this location so bad.

OP...just wanted to follow up on why you are so hell bent on this going in OC and this exact spot? Whats your motive and whats your pushback on the other areas I brought up?

 

[BankerCat12]

What are you doing Pennsylvania?

Amazon is investing $20B in Pennsylvania and one location mentioned is a data center next to a nuclear plant...where it should be. I highly doubt there is a country neighborhood with horse farms at this location b/c most states dont build these infrastructures where some want it to be in Oldham. Good job Penn....common sense prevails.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/09/ama...luding-one-next-to-a-nuclear-power-plant.html