What?????--Book alleges UofL used escort services

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LadyCaytIL

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By the way for the record, Cady didnt give the 3rd party evidence to the LCJ.... doesn't mean he won't give it to the NCAA or someone else.
 
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RationalCard

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Actually, what ymmot said is correct.
Absent of any evidence the burden of proof is on the accuser. However, there is a ton of evidence in this case and the burden of proof shifts to UL to disprove the evidence at hand. Good grief.
Reread what you said. It doesnt hold. Wow...

Yeah, Im getting sucked into deep to the stupid here. Thanks for the laughs detectives.
 

wcc31

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No, you guys have a 40 page thread about speculation with no real proof. None of it will hold. Nice try though. Im out.

Nice try? I'm not trying anything. Just laughing at your program for yet another sex scandal. You idiots are the rival that keeps on giving. Can't beat us on the court and constantly embarrassing yourselves off of it.
 
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Chairman Meow

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PITINO ON 93.9: “Right now there’s only one person who knows the answers and he’s not talking."

Tyler Thompson ‏@MrsTylerKSR 3m3 minutes ago
Another bizarre interview by Pitino. Managed to fit in Roy Williams, the Pope, his brother dying in 9/11, and the Kentucky Shame cover

Matt Jones ‏@KySportsRadio 3m3 minutes ago
UL fans are going to be so sad when the University admits that this happened...and they likely are going to do just that

Uhhhh. Can someone please ask Rick why Andre's not talking?? Oh yeah because you and Jurich paid thousands of dollars for a Louisville criminal defense lawyer to represent a California kid who lives in Kansas City and tell him to STOP TALKING!!!
 

Rajon did it

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If the scandal is investigated as a crime, says attorney Kent Wicker, a former federal prosecutor, a grand jury could subpoena players and recruits and force them to testify and demand copies of interviews and other records compiled by consultant Chuck Smrt, a former NCAA enforcement officer hired by U of L to investigate Powell’s allegations.
 
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Tannerdad

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No, you guys have a 40 page thread about speculation with no real proof. None of it will hold. Nice try though. Im out.

What an idiot, but then again, you are a UL fan.

If any of this is proven true, what will you say then? What spin will you put on it? What excuse will you use? What John Ramsey, Terry Meiners, Rick Pitino logic will you then apply to your scandal riddles athletic department that has yet to figure out how to keep their own peckers dry?
 

Rajon did it

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Police also are likely to explore whether text messages that Powell purports are from McGee are legitimate and the source of the money she alleges he paid to her.
 
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I saw you sleeping with 2 prostitutes. Prove it didnt happen?

Thats just silly. Proving a negative. Be better Cats fans.

Seriously, though, so the independent has the records, but he doesnt show them?
-A fan photo is the smoking gun of Trez? Uhm, no.
-Blakeny had a naked girl hit him up, he said yes. Thats your gun? Uhm, no.


No, you guys have this down...

:flush:


Aside from the texts and the receipt, the photos are circumstantial evidence that lend support to her story. She has made a large claim, and thus far, the bits and pieces of her evidence lend it credence. there is rarely a smoking gun piece of evidence that objectively proves or disproves in a proceeding such as this. For the NCAA, you're dealing with a preponderance of evidence, not beyond a reasonable doubt.

Hence, even leaving the damning evidence of the text messages and receipt aside, the preponderance of evidence thus far supports her story, it doesn't refute it.

The photos prove the first and most important part of her story: that she and her prostitutes were in Minardi Hall when she says they were there with the people she says they were there with. So in building a legal case, you can start from there.

We're now aware that they were hookers. So the legal case now stands at: Hookers were in the dorm with players. Evidence supports that.

Next step finding out if they were paid to be there by someone connected with UofL. She has detailed journal records that support it, text records discussing it, and a receipt for another rendezvous at a motel. That all supports her claim that she and her hookers were paid by Andre Mcgee.

So the case stands here: Hookers were paid - to be in Minardi Hall - with players - by Andre McGee. That's what the evidence supports.
 

*CatinIL*

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I saw you sleeping with 2 prostitutes. Prove it didnt happen?

Thats just silly. Proving a negative. Be better Cats fans.

Seriously, though, so the independent has the records, but he doesnt show them?
-A fan photo is the smoking gun of Trez? Uhm, no.
-Blakeny had a naked girl hit him up, he said yes. Thats your gun? Uhm, no.


No, you guys have this down...

:flush:


And we didn't land on the moon either...all those photos were fakes...

 

wkycatfan7

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Breaking...

Assistant Commonwealth’s Attorney Jeff Cooke, the office's spokesman, said Andre McGee, the team’s former director of operations whom Powell says paid her, also could potentially be prosecuted as an accomplice.

Singing like a canary comes to mind.
 
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Petjurino

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What an idiot, but then again, you are a UL fan.

If any of this is proven true, what will you say then? What spin will you put on it? What excuse will you use? What John Ramsey, Terry Meiners, Rick Pitino logic will you then apply to your scandal riddles athletic department that has yet to figure out how to keep their own peckers dry?
I've already said that if this somehow is proven to be true, I will admit that I was wrong and I will view UofL athletics differently. As of now, they've done nothing wrong. We do things the right way and stay clear of trouble. If this turns out to be true, I won't see UofL as that clean program 1st type program that I do now. I also think at that point that Jurich and Pitino should lose their jobs. I also think HOwie and Ramsey should lose their jobs for proclaiming that this is not true when it would become obvious that they didn't know. To date, they've done nothing to make me think otherwise so I believe them. They are closer to the situation than any of us are so yes, I believe them. If it turns out they were wrong, they become untrustworthy and have no business covering UofL sports. Simple as that.
 
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I saw you sleeping with 2 prostitutes. Prove it didnt happen?

Thats just silly. Proving a negative. Be better Cats fans.

Seriously, though, so the independent has the records, but he doesnt show them?
-A fan photo is the smoking gun of Trez? Uhm, no.
-Blakeny had a naked girl hit him up, he said yes. Thats your gun? Uhm, no.


No, you guys have this down...

:flush:


Aside from the texts and the receipt, the photos are circumstantial evidence that lend support to her story. She has made a large claim, and thus far, the bits and pieces of her evidence lend it credence. there is rarely a smoking gun piece of evidence that objectively proves or disproves in a proceeding such as this. For the NCAA, you're dealing with a preponderance of evidence, not beyond a reasonable doubt.

Hence, even leaving the damning evidence of the text messages and receipt aside, the preponderance of evidence thus far supports her story, it doesn't refute it.

The photos prove the first and most important part of her story: that she and her prostitutes were in Minardi Hall when she says they were there with the people she says they were there with. So in building a legal case, you can start from there.

We're now aware that they were hookers. So the legal case now stands at: Hookers were in the dorm with players. Evidence supports that.

Next step finding out if they were paid to be there by someone connected with UofL. She has detailed journal records that support it, text records discussing it, and a receipt for another rendezvous at a motel. That all supports her claim that she and her hookers were paid by Andre Mcgee.

So the case stands here: Hookers were paid - to be in Minardi Hall - with players - by Andre McGee. That's what the evidence supports.
There are other claims involving other locations, recruits, etc. But if you want a smoking gun, the statement above is probably enough for major infractions if the texts and what-not check out. That's before any additional evidence is collected by investigators from either side through surveillance tapes, testimony, etc.
 

Rajon did it

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http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-ba...ts-ncaa-investigation-katina-powell-daughters

Police investigating Powell and her underaged daughters prosituting.

Only thing that worries me is that if she wants to stay out of jail for putting her teenage daughters in the prostitution business, she will have to say the whole thing is made up. Either that, or stick with the true story, and she is undoubtedly going to jail.

Surely they knew this was the road it would lead down. They are too smart to not consider the criminal aspect and fallout.
 

deplion_rivals116063

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Police also are likely to explore whether text messages that Powell purports are from McGee are legitimate and the source of the money she alleges he paid to her.
Yep. Those are really the only missing pieces.

We already have direct evidence that puts the prostitutes in Minardi Hall with UL players. UL can't dispute that.

The only thing left for investigators to do is confirm that McGee actually sent the texts and the money. That is about as open and shut a case as a Prosecutor is ever going to get.

Pitino knows it. Jurich knows it.

Bless their hearts, only the UL faithful don't know it, but it will blow up in their collective faces in pretty short order.

If I were UL, I would be concentrating my efforts on proving why we don't need a one year death penalty that includes our championship banner coming down, not clinging to the fantasy that none of this ever happened.
 

UKCatsFan10

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UL fans want to act like there's no "proof" but the fact remains that there are far more indications that it happened than indications that it didn't. They like to use the phone "virus" as a way of discrediting the story but ignore the fact that the messages were recovered, so it's not even a relevant part of the story. The bottom line is that if those messages came from McGee, it's done, and I would venture to say that part of the story has already been determined but just hasn't been released publicly yet. Phone records are about as easy as it gets these days for investigators... The fact that the Pulitzer Prize winning investigative reporter is saying that a former FBI investigator already verified the phone records before Crady was willing to put his name on the book should tell you what you need to know. UL fans are right that there is no hard proof until the results of the phone record verification is released to the public. That's the proof both sides are looking for. Until then, I along with the rest of the nation excluding Louisville is going to side with the stack of phone records that a former-FBI investigator claims came from McGee's phone.
 

EvilMD

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All this time I thought Montrezl wore a mouthpiece to protect his teeth from flying elbows in the paint. Turns out he started wearing them so he could kiss these women in a safer manner.
 

UKWildcatT

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My God.

He screws around on Minardi's sister and then they sponsor whores in a dorm named after the poor man and he continues to dredge him up. Hides behind the Pope and how he fixed UK to prop up his image.

Rick Pitino is truly the worse kind of POS there is. Dry up and blow away you syphilis infected bastard.

I've been saying this since Friday. His "Minardi Card" is some of the most disgusting **** I can think of.

I'm embarrassed that POS has his name in our rafters. Disgusting
 

catlanta33

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I've already said that if this somehow is proven to be true, I will admit that I was wrong and I will view UofL athletics differently. As of now, they've done nothing wrong. We do things the right way and stay clear of trouble.

Except using hookers to lure recruits to campus. You seem to want to ignore that little tidbit of info.
 
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jkmann1

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It's pretty interesting to read their boards, because there is not a SINGLE person that is taking the stance of 'guys, this could be true.' It is absolute denial and adamant refusal to believe. Not even an inkling of 'let's wait and see.'

We would probably be trying in every way possible to find ways to discredit something this bad about our program, too. I've just found it interesting going back and forth between the two fanbases. My favorite argument to discredit Dick Cady has been 'he sounds like a dick.'
 

MWes11

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Anthony Wireman ‏@awireman 49m49 minutes ago
Pitino says they told the visiting recruits last weekend that "we have a problem" and told them they are going to find the solution

Anthony Wireman ‏@awireman 49m49 minutes ago
"We're going to get to the bottom of this...the allegations are out there and we are going to find out if they're true or not" - Pitino

Eric Crawford ‏@ericcrawford 48m48 minutes ago
PITINO: “I have not slept, because the allegations are that it took place in Billy Minardi Hall, and that really is a knife in my heart."

Seems like his tone is shifting from we absolutely did not do this to we are gonna get to the bottom of this. .
 

Stenchymouse

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Anthony Wireman ‏@awireman 49m49 minutes ago
Pitino says they told the visiting recruits last weekend that "we have a problem" and told them they are going to find the solution

Anthony Wireman ‏@awireman 49m49 minutes ago
"We're going to get to the bottom of this...the allegations are out there and we are going to find out if they're true or not" - Pitino

Eric Crawford ‏@ericcrawford 48m48 minutes ago
PITINO: “I have not slept, because the allegations are that it took place in Billy Minardi Hall, and that really is a knife in my heart."

Seems like his tone is shifting.
Well that knife has been in there a while, because they've known about this since AT LEAST August...

I personally believe they've known for much longer.
 

Petjurino

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whats hilarious is when the verification comes out from the 3rd party investigator, then suddenly UL fans are going to say he's a liar and he's in on the whole set up. just watch.
That's not the case. Look at the Clint Hurtt situation. Tom said if the NCAA finds that Clint lied to the NCAA he would be gone. The NCAA determined he lied and he was let go and all UofL fans were behind that. We did not call out the NCAA as liars. The same will happen here but I already know the end result will be that nothing happened.
 

thecatsareback#8

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That's not the case. Look at the Clint Hurtt situation. Tom said if the NCAA finds that Clint lied to the NCAA he would be gone. The NCAA determined he lied and he was let go and all UofL fans were behind that. We did not call out the NCAA as liars. The same will happen here but I already know the end result will be that nothing happened.
I would pay a good amount of money to find out who you post as over here. Id like to shake your hand. Inbox me
 
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Dr. H Lecter

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Thats great. Not one solid reply. Just, no, its true, and nu uh.

I'm ok with her being a bad person, just show the evidence. You cant, its all shoddy. Prove it true.

You will dispute the evidence no matter how solid. You and your fan-base are simply Little Brothel Truthers.

No level of proof short of the admission (coming) by your own will satisfy you. And even then....you will likely just change your excuse and rationalizing to being that everyone does it or that you were set up and had to admit to a lesser level of activity in order to minimize the damage and in order to salvage Pitino.

Everyone is picking on us because.... they want to be us. LOL

Three NCAA titles....at least for now. But I am sure you will be convinced by Jurich once a banner comes down...it was addition by subtraction.
 

catlanta33

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Man some of you UL trolls have your heads buried in hoodrat snatch. To suggest nothing happened isn't the same as the NCAA won't do anything. The latter is entirely possible but 50/50. But to keep suggesting that nothing happened at all, as in no hookers rode 3 star pole in Minardi Hall is just flat-out denial.
 
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Why would a lawyer say this? I mean, there was nothing going on, right? They're seeignthe writing on the wall, guys:

The lawyer for the former University of Louisville basketball staffer at the center of an escort's allegations in a new book said Tuesday that his client never told the escort that U of L head coach Rick Pitino knew about the illicit activities she claims were going on from 2010-14.
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"Coach Pitino and his staff were not involved in this in any respect," Louisville attorney Scott Cox said in a short statement to The Courier-Journal. Cox was retained by McGee a few weeks ago as the book neared publication.

LINK: Courier-Journal

That's darn near a confession.