What?????--Book alleges UofL used escort services

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Kycatspaws

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Sypher's fetus.
Arch Miller . And I would hate to see it because it would be difficult to cheer against him and he would make UL a yearly contender . Frankly, this is why I hope Rick survives .

If Rick survives my guess is his recruiting will continue to be just a little behind the four big boys.
 

RacerX.ksr

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I can see why no respectable coach would want to leave their respectable job to come to ul. I can also see why they would, given ul's proclivity to throw money around and basically "make it rain" on their coaches to give the appearance of being a "big boy".

There will be major sanctions in their way. There will be scholarship reductions for several years. There will still be a slimy perception and reality to the program. Yep, nothing money can't overcome.
 
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ZakkW

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Stuff like that went on all the time back in the Crum era. I brought that up because a lot of guys posting here don't have memories that go back that far. They think the dirty stuff started with Rick. Before, Crum was Jurich and Pitino rolled into one. Crum is the reason ul didn't bolt to a bigger conference and the reason Schnellenberger left. He told them if they wanted to win a national championship in football, they had to move to a bigger conference. Crum knew that would destroy his chance at 20 wins per year and also create new demands on his program in regards to discipline and recruiting. He nixed the idea and Howard left when he realized he was a football coach at a basketball school.

This book:

has this quote from Crum circa 1972: " On our squad...we don't have a curfew. We don't have any rules about drinking and smoking. We police each other." So there you go. Crum set a tone 40+ years ago that continues to this day.
 

RacerX.ksr

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This book:

has this quote from Crum circa 1972: " On our squad...we don't have a curfew. We don't have any rules about drinking and smoking. We police each other." So there you go. Crum set a tone 40+ years ago that continues to this day.

Thanks for that. The youngins need to know us old guys have been fighting the good fight for years. This whole situation is vindication for me and all the crap I've endured from those idiots over the years.
 

Stenchymouse

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UL should have come up with more of that secret Foundation money when they originally tried to buy the Book's rights in the summer!
The folks at UofL probably underestimated Ms Powell...

She probably came to them first and they figured that she was too dumb to get that story outside of Louisville where it would grow some legs.

Again, their arrogance will be their downfall.
 

hmt5000

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Stuff like that went on all the time back in the Crum era. I brought that up because a lot of guys posting here don't have memories that go back that far. They think the dirty stuff started with Rick. Before, Crum was Jurich and Pitino rolled into one. Crum is the reason ul didn't bolt to a bigger conference and the reason Schnellenberger left. He told them if they wanted to win a national championship in football, they had to move to a bigger conference. Crum knew that would destroy his chance at 20 wins per year and also create new demands on his program in regards to discipline and recruiting. He nixed the idea and Howard left when he realized he was a football coach at a basketball school.
i cant remember the exact story because it was 30 years ago but seems like kimbro was at shawnee park or one of the others and a bunch of dudes where checking out his car. kimbro told them "it's not just white, its cocaine white".
 
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Gary P has done some good work on this scandal.

Speaking of national college basketball writers, the silence is deafening from Dana O'Neil and Pete Thamel, two of Cal's triumvirate. And the third, Forde, is the most conspicuously silent of them all. He did break the story, of course, but hasn't had much to say since. Which is odd, considering the contacts he has inside Louisville athletics. He lives here, and it seems like half of what he writes is about uofl or UK (I've wondered what the editors at ESPN and now yahoo thought about that, apparently it's good). Any other story of national interest about uofl, Forde would be generating a column a day, and multiple tweets by the hour. If this story was coming out of Lexington, he'd be doing the same.

For some reason, here we get crickets. It's almost like Jurich has asked him to try to tamp this down, or at least not fan flames. And of course he said yes, has to protect those sources.....
 
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This has been going on for years. I couldnt find the video, but remember in 90-91, 60 Minutes did an expose on UofL basketball?

http://articles.latimes.com/1991-02-05/sports/sp-621_1_louisville-basketball-recruits
Yes I do. Does anyone remember how that series of embarrassments led to Crum leaving, and a new AD? No one remembers that because, of course, it didn't happen. This is Louisville folks, it's their DNA. Hunker down, ride out the storm, keep the coaches and administrators. You guys expecting a house cleaning, or even just Rick being let go, are setting yourselves up for disappointment....
 

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No chance. These native Kentuckians and former UK greats would consider taking the U of L job like selling their souls to the Devil.

Sorry for my unclear sarcasm. That's who Pitino recimmended UK to hire 6 years ago...like we actually cared what he thought.
 

UKWildcatT

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Yes I do. Does anyone remember how that series of embarrassments led to Crum leaving, and a new AD? No one remembers that because, of course, it didn't happen. This is Louisville folks, it's their DNA. Hunker down, ride out the storm, keep the coaches and administrators. You guys expecting a house cleaning, or even just Rick being let go, are setting yourselves up for disappointment....

Totally agree. Pitino has zero shame, along with Juruch.

I personally hope they now give the Crypy Keeper a lifetime contract
 
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UedK

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What happened?

Pitino and Jurich were receiving complaints from recruit’s parents about the sex parties hosted and paid for by McGee. Stories were confirmed and in April, 2014 they shipped McGee of to UMKC who is coached by a former Pitino assistant. They’ve spent the last 18 months trying to cover it up until Katina Powel surfaced.

The book’s accelerated publishing date resulted in the shame-faced press conference the day before the book came out and it’s been blow after blow since then.

What's next?

As the NCAA interviews more recruits and their families it will all come out. Having had their kids subjected to this filth they won’t hesitate to tell their stories. With 22 sex parties over 4 years there are hundreds of witnesses. This will lead to exposing the cover up, the money trail and more.

The truth will become overwhelming and UL will be buried in a smut avalanche. The NCAA will give UL the death penalty and Ramsey, Jurich and Pitino will all be fired.

The YUM Center will be turned into the biggest strip joint east of the Mississippi and will finally start to turn a profit.
 

RacerX.ksr

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This has been going on for years. I couldnt find the video, but remember in 90-91, 60 Minutes did an expose on UofL basketball?

http://articles.latimes.com/1991-02-05/sports/sp-621_1_louisville-basketball-recruits


"A clash of ideologies has occurred at Louisville, with Crum on one side and Swain on the other. Crum said he sees Louisville as a school with an "urban mission." That means creating opportunities for the so-called high-risk students, basketball players included."

Is there any doubt that if Crum had been the tennis or golf coach, he wouldn't have seen things that way?
 

Blueworld_3.0

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Would really like to hear from Jay Bilas on all this. Actually, I'd like to see ESPN as a whole take this situation a little more seriously. One BTL show isn't going to cut it. We all know if it were UK at the heart of all this they would have an extra non-stop crawler at the bottom of the screen constantly running blurbs about the allegations and latest developments.
Hard to take ESPN seriously as a news organization when they have so conveniently overlooked Dook, UNC and now UofL's scandals. But, a story comes out about Skal not being cleared by the NCAA and they run that across the bottom of the screen every two minutes.
 

hmt5000

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What happened?

Pitino and Jurich were receiving complaints from recruit’s parents about the sex parties hosted and paid for by McGee. Stories were confirmed and in April, 2014 they shipped McGee of to UMKC who is coached by a former Pitino assistant. They’ve spent the last 18 months trying to cover it up until Katina Powel surfaced.

The book’s accelerated publishing date resulted in the shame-faced press conference the day before the book came out and it’s been blow after blow since then.

What's next?

As the NCAA interviews more recruits and their families it will all come out. Having had their kids subjected to this filth they won’t hesitate to tell their stories. With 22 sex parties over 4 years there are hundreds of witnesses. This will lead to exposing the cover up, the money trail and more.

The truth will become overwhelming and UL will be buried in a smut avalanche. The NCAA will give UL the death penalty and Ramsey, Jurich and Pitino will all be fired.

The YUM Center will be turned into the biggest strip joint east of the Mississippi and will finally start to turn a profit.
that first part might be the most damning. what if parents notified both ul and the ncaa about strippers at visits and ul didn't report it to the ncaa? maybe the reason the ncaa told lyle they already knew what went on is because a parent had already told them before the book came out and the book confirmed a parents story. i've also heard ul fans say that katina shopped her book to ul and they weren't buying. but shouldn't they have reported that to the ncaa too?
 
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Bkocats

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that first part might be the most damning. what if parents notified both ul and the ncaa about strippers at visits and ul didn't report it to the ncaa? maybe the reason the ncaa told lyle they already knew what went on is because a parent had already told them before the book came out and the book confirmed a parents story. i've also heard ul fans say that katina shopped her book to ul and they weren't buying. but shouldn't they have reported that to the ncaa too?


hmm, hadn't heard all that yet......is this all speculation or is there truth to it? If so........wow
 

UedK

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that first part might be the most damning. what if parents notified both ul and the ncaa about strippers at visits and ul didn't report it to the ncaa? maybe the reason the ncaa told lyle they already knew what went on is because a parent had already told them before the book came out and the book confirmed a parents story. i've also heard ul fans say that katina shopped her book to ul and they weren't buying. but shouldn't they have reported that to the ncaa too?

Yeah, It looks like there is a large gap in when UL may have know about the situation and when they publicly got involved. This will need to be explained and could lead to exposing a cover up.
 

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I could see Louisville throwing enough $ at Kenny Payne to have him take the job. I would hate that, because Kenny would do a good job bringing them back. He has a great job at Kentucky right now, but I couldn't blame him for taking a shot at using all the knowledge he has gained working with Cal to run his own program.
 

Blueblood410

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I think it would be hilarious to see them go after Payne after all their allegations that cal and his staff cheat.

I actually think Louisville will completely clean themselves from Pitino, so no former players or assistants, or his son.
 

mebeblue2

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in all honesty as bad as this situation is, both Jurich and Pitino need to be fired

Jurich is the Captain of the ship
Pitino is the first mate
both should be held accountable
 
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RacerX.ksr

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How many scandals have you heard of where it is later revealed that "well, it looks like we knew the entire story from the very beginning?" Of course there is more to the story. We will NEVER know the entire story, but we'll know enough.

One thing we can be sure of at this point is that ul knew about this for at least a month before we did. I have a hard time believing the university found out about this at the same time Rick did. Since we know they knew earlier, why believe the timeline or that they found out when contacted by IU? The IU contact may have only clued them in to the fact the story was out and no longer contained.

"two people can keep a secret, if one of them is dead" There were way too many people involved for this to have been kept secret, especially in an open environment like a college campus. The dam hasn't totally broken loose yet, but there are enough leakers to ensure its demise is imminent.