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jr40831

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Filthy
 

warrior-cat

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Loserville should have gone the Carolina Way and argued that all students had access to the prostitutes.
I think they (Katina and her Waves) were either teachings assistants or teachers at UL. The class was "How to Cheat at Cards".
 

BigBlueFanGA

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It's almost sad reading their boards with all the wannabe lawyers talking about how easy it will be to sue and get this all reversed. I hope they do sue. That would be fantastic. I'd love to see what was said to the NCAA and get Andre on the stand.
 

Blueworld_3.0

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The ESPN bottomline says "it is unclear whether vacated games will affect 2013 Championship". So, if all those post season wins are vacated then, the title WILL come down correct?

One more time...
BURN UofL, BURN!
 

Glenn's Take

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They are a member of the NCAA and you can't sue yourself. Am I right? I know the State of Pennsylvania sued them but PSU didn't.
 

Glenn's Take

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If you listen to them for any number of reasons but that isn't the point. I think it's BS too but that it was a lot of them are saying they should do.
 

Blue Decade

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They are a member of the NCAA and you can't sue yourself. Am I right? I know the State of Pennsylvania sued them but PSU didn't.
Anyone with standing can bring litigation. So UL could bring litigation. Pitino can also bring civil litigation against the NCAA as an individual plaintiff. Other member schools and other individuals have sued the NCAA before, with varying amounts of success. Alabama successfully sued the NCAA. But UL must be very careful here. They still have a lot of skeletons in their closet, and there may be future investigations. The NCAA expects contrition and a good faith effort to fix violations to restore proper institutional control. But litigation over an NCAA investigation would demonstrate institutional resistance against the NCAA's due diligence. If UL loses the law suit, this is a path to an eventual death penalty.
 

Blueworld_3.0

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Anyone with standing can bring litigation. So UL could bring litigation. Pitino can also bring civil litigation against the NCAA as an individual plaintiff. Other member schools and other individuals have sued the NCAA before, with varying amounts of success. Alabama successfully sued the NCAA. But UL must be very careful here. They still have a lot of skeletons in their closet, and there may be future investigations. The NCAA expects contrition and a good faith effort to fix violations to restore proper institutional control. But litigation over an NCAA investigation would demonstrate institutional resistance against the NCAA's due diligence. This is a path to an eventual death penalty.
Agreed. And for the exact reasons mentioned above I actually hope they do sue the NCAA. Keep poking the bear UofL/Pitino. Should turn out well for you guys.
 
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Glenn's Take

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Anyone with standing can bring litigation. So UL could bring litigation. Pitino can also bring civil litigation against the NCAA as an individual plaintiff. Other member schools and other individuals have sued the NCAA before, with varying amounts of success. Alabama successfully sued the NCAA. But UL must be very careful here. They still have a lot of skeletons in their closet, and there may be future investigations. The NCAA expects contrition and a good faith effort to fix violations to restore proper institutional control. But litigation over an NCAA investigation would demonstrate institutional resistance against the NCAA's due diligence. If UL loses the law suit, this is a path to an eventual death penalty.
OK, thanks. I knew Pitino could if he wanted to because Tarkanian did. I didn't think the school could though.
 

morgousky

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They can, but they better be very careful. The ncaa probbaly has more, as they did in the memphis case. You start a court room war and it could get messy.

The ncaa will not lose this appeal and louisville better let it rest there. The ncaa laid the groundwork for this as a very rare case. There is no other incident of its kind. The courts like to let private entities rule without interference. Theyve got no case.
 
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You can sue a ham sandwich.

There's no way they can win though. The NCAA can set their own rules, process, and penalties. UofL as a member of the organization tacitly, if not expressly, agreed to the rules, process, and penalties.

Much the same way the Boy Scouts continually won lawsuits against their previous guidelines, the federal (or state) government cannot abrogate the rules of a private organization.
 

mebeblue2

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during the ul press conference a reporter tried to get Smrt to answer whether ul would go past the appeal
Smrt looked dumbfounded at the question
ul is not going to bring a lawsuit against the NCAA

ul is a member school, i do not think you can bring a lawsuit against yourself
i read that is why the state and not PSU filed the lawsuit against the NCAA
 
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UofL absolutely can sue the NCAA.

I think people are confusing "can they sue" with "can they win the lawsuit".

In order to win the lawsuit UofL would have to show the NCAA violated their own rules. That's why it would be foolish to bring the complaint.
 

BigBlueFanGA

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Anyone with standing can bring litigation. So UL could bring litigation. Pitino can also bring civil litigation against the NCAA as an individual plaintiff. Other member schools and other individuals have sued the NCAA before, with varying amounts of success. Alabama successfully sued the NCAA. But UL must be very careful here. They still have a lot of skeletons in their closet, and there may be future investigations. The NCAA expects contrition and a good faith effort to fix violations to restore proper institutional control. But litigation over an NCAA investigation would demonstrate institutional resistance against the NCAA's due diligence. If UL loses the law suit, this is a path to an eventual death penalty.
I can't find a suit by Alabama against the NCAA. The opportunity for a successful suit by a member institution is very limited.
 
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during the ul press conference a reporter tried to get Smrt to answer whether ul would go past the appeal
Smrt looked dumbfounded at the question
ul is not going to bring a lawsuit against the NCAA

ul is a member school, i do not think you can bring a lawsuit against yourself
i read that is why the state and not PSU filed the lawsuit against the NCAA
The universities of Oklahoma and Georgia sued the NCAA in the 80s over TV contracts.

UofL sought an injunction against the NCAA in the Lasege case in the early 2000s.
 

mebeblue2

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UofL absolutely can sue the NCAA.

I think people are confusing "can they sue" with "can they win the lawsuit".

In order to win the lawsuit UofL would have to show the NCAA violated their own rules. That's why it would be foolish to bring the complaint.

i also read where schools that join the NCAA sign off on ever being able to sue the NCAA
i would love for someone that actually had knowledge of that to inform all of us
i have no idea if they can or can not, only what i have read