What conspiracy theory do you believe in?

Tinker Dan

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I just want to know how "they" know what size my T.V. is.... "This film has been modified form its original version. It has been formatted to fit your TV screen." sneaky bast-ages.

I just compared the T.V. in the bedroom, it is a different size than the one in the living room. You guessed it, it fits that one as well. WTH?????

I have all the vents in my apartment covered now. Cameras, they have to have cameras in my apartment.

Places tin foil hat firmly in place.
 

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Where did you find that? I've seen the same camera, same angle more times than I care to remember. Every time I have seen it you can never make out the blur that hits the building. I'm gonna say that's photo-shopped.


Is that photoshopped? I have never seen that video include a plane. Never. And lord knows, years ago I wasted enough of my life reading up on 9/11
 
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funKYcat75

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That plane looks like it just pulled off the turnpike and got lost in town.
 
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Have you seen the American Airlines liveried sheet metal on the Pentagon lawn?

Have you read or watched the witness reports immediately following the incident? Not one mention of a plane. Now how do witnesses leave out that very LARGE detail? It's not like the DC area is filled with a bunch of uneducated morons.
Yeah, we also saw/heard about the untouched photo id found on the top of the ruble from one of the hijackers from the WTC.

Even if you take everything at face value (which it appears you do), even you have to admit that there were a quite a few irregularities with all four planes and the outcome of each.
 

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Flight 93 - No time to arm and intercept. It was cruising at over 500mph and over 31,000 ft when it did a U-turn and then about 30 minutes later was a hole in the ground in PA. Simply a logistically impossible intercept window, especially when there was no CAP (pre-9/11) being flown and no armed aircraft waiting to scramble. (Although they did try)

Pentagon - Just as with Flight 93 - the high strength alloys (titanium compressor, landing gear forgings etc.) were recovered at the crash site. FEMA and Military Engineers in the Pentagon published photos taken within the next couple days after 9/11 showing all this.

There is, however, not a shred of doubt the US Govt. would have shot both planes down if they could, and I don't think they would hesitate to admit it either. Any future hijackings in US airspace (especially if it's a heavy) will be blown out of the sky post haste.
 

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Have you read or watched the witness reports immediately following the incident? Not one mention of a plane. Now how do witnesses leave out that very LARGE detail? It's not like the DC area is filled with a bunch of uneducated morons.
Yeah, we also saw/heard about the untouched photo id found on the top of the ruble from one of the hijackers from the WTC.

Even if you take everything at face value (which it appears you do), even you have to admit that there were a quite a few irregularities with all four planes and the outcome of each.

Here is a story from 9/12 with eyewitnesses.
 

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Have you read or watched the witness reports immediately following the incident? Not one mention of a plane.

Complete nonsense, sorry. There are many eyewitness accounts from the Pentagon just like this one:
CMSgt. John Monaccio wrote: "I was in room 1B461. The plane's inertia carried aircraft remains all the way through the building coming to rest on the outside walls of our offices. We discovered cockpit wreckage at our feet while attempting to rescue people from a Navy operations area."
http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/pentagon/pentagon-email_20020316.html
 

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TWA Flight 800 that blew up shortly after take off from Long Island was shot down by a missile. The FBI illegally took over the investigation from the National Transportation and Safety Board, literally threw them out and would not allow them near the wreckage. They then concocted a story to sell to the public that the aircraft fuel tank blew up.

I play tennis with a guy that was a TWA pilot who was flying out of Long Island at this time. I asked him about it one day and he said there was no doubt in his mind it was shot down by a missile.

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After the explosion, more than three dozen witnesses reported they’d seen contrails going up into the sky towards the plane; 18 of those people said they saw something coming up from the water, rising to meet the plane.
 
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Yes, this is obviously faked. The original CCTV security camera frames (1 second apart) only caught the explosion.

But there is no doubt that Flight 77 did hit the Pentagon: flight radar track, 136 eyewitness accounts (104 saw the plane directly), light poles knocked down in the flight path, aircraft debris inside and outside the Pentagon, passenger bodies and luggage, flight recorders recovered and analyzed, etc.
 

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TWA Flight 800 that blew up shortly after take off from Long Island was shot down by a missile. The FBI illegally took over the investigation from the National Transportation and Safety Board, literally threw them out and would not allow them near the wreckage. They then concocted a story to sell to the public that the aircraft fuel tank blew up.

I play tennis with a guy that was a TWA pilot who was flying out of Long Island at this time. I asked him about it one day and he said there was no doubt in his mind it was shot down by a missile.

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After the explosion, more than three dozen witnesses reported they’d seen contrails going up into the sky towards the plane; 18 of those people said they saw something coming up from the water, rising to meet the plane.
Right after that happened I saw one of the news stations interview a ship captain and he said he saw two streaks of light go up toward the airplane, one of them hit the plane and the other missed and kept on going. Never saw anything about that again.
 
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I stand corrected.

No, no, no. C'mon man, that's not how conspiracy theories work!

When confronted with clear and indisputable evidence that debunks your conspiracy, you don't back down. You double down:

Those pictures are obvious fakes. Photoshopped by a high-schooler.

Those pictures came from the gubmint. I don't trust the gubmint.

Those ain't airplain engines. My uncle works on airplains and he says they have propellers on 'em.

Those pictures were staged in a warehouse in West Virginia. My cousin Elroy seen it himself.
 

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Real conspiracy theories I will entertain:

NCAA hates Cal, one and done players, and goes out of their way to make sure we get no favors from refs or brackets. Entertain that 100℅.

ESPN is in the tank for Duke, Carolina and UCONN.

I'm done.
 
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TWA Flight 800 that blew up shortly after take off from Long Island was shot down by a missile. The FBI illegally took over the investigation from the National Transportation and Safety Board, literally threw them out and would not allow them near the wreckage. They then concocted a story to sell to the public that the aircraft fuel tank blew up.

I play tennis with a guy that was a TWA pilot who was flying out of Long Island at this time. I asked him about it one day and he said there was no doubt in his mind it was shot down by a missile.

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After the explosion, more than three dozen witnesses reported they’d seen contrails going up into the sky towards the plane; 18 of those people said they saw something coming up from the water, rising to meet the plane.
Correct. The USS Seawolf was tracking the plane in a military exercise and accidentally shot it down.
 

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If flight 77 didn't hit the pentagon, then where is it? And it's crew? And passengers?

If you go deep enough down the 9/11 truther rabbit hole, you'll find people that don't think there were any planes at all. Just faked video and bombs.
 

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TWA Flight 800 that blew up shortly after take off from Long Island was shot down by a missile. The FBI illegally took over the investigation from the National Transportation and Safety Board, literally threw them out and would not allow them near the wreckage. They then concocted a story to sell to the public that the aircraft fuel tank blew up.

I play tennis with a guy that was a TWA pilot who was flying out of Long Island at this time. I asked him about it one day and he said there was no doubt in his mind it was shot down by a missile.

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After the explosion, more than three dozen witnesses reported they’d seen contrails going up into the sky towards the plane; 18 of those people said they saw something coming up from the water, rising to meet the plane.
Right after that happened I saw one of the news stations interview a ship captain and he said he saw two streaks of light go up toward the airplane, one of them hit the plane and the other missed and kept on going. Never saw anything about that again.
I flew out of NYC that day, so I watched the hell out of that story when I got home. Pretty freaky, and definitely seemed like we didn't get the whole story.
 

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I believe in the conspiracy theory that the old media (NBC, CBS, ABC, NYT, Washington Post, etc.) are in collusion with the democrat party to push their agenda and to help get their candidates elected. Thanks to Wikileaks this theory has been proven beyond a doubt.
I don't know that these folks are all in cahoots with the Democratic party, but I believe each media organization has an agenda. It's probably more to do with selling lifestyles that lead to free living and big spending more than it is to a political party though.
 

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Correct. The USS Seawolf was tracking the plane in a military exercise and accidentally shot it down.
Only thing on an attack sub of that kind that is even remotely capable of doing that is a Harpoon missile that is anti ship, not anti air, and is designed to cruise just above the ocean. Don't believe any sub has ever been fitted for a Sea Sparrow or AMRAAM.

Could certainly see it being terrorism but it was *not* a US sub. I haven't looked but would venture to guess there has never been a sea to air missile strike by a sub of any kind, they just aren't designed for that.

Btw....and this is really for the 9-11 stuff....a conspiracy is only as doable as the least number of people it takes to pull it off. People can't wait to yap about *anything*. As for ANY portion of 9-11 being a conspiracy you essentially are conceding the whole thing was. Basically 100X the rest of all conspiracies combined.......and still no one's talked?

All those folks on the planes murdered and buried in New Mexico? No mid-level operative pissed his GWB or Jewish overlords stopped sending a check? Get real.

What about the USS Seawolf's janitor crew? They making a couple mill to stay quiet?

Any conspiracy over say 3 people can get pumped, and that may be generous.
 

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Only thing on an attack sub of that kind that is even remotely capable of doing that is a Harpoon missile that is anti ship, not anti air, and is designed to cruise just above the ocean. Don't believe any sub has ever been fitted for a Sea Sparrow or AMRAAM.

true, but I'm of the opinion that it was more likely fired from a surface ship. The Aegis weapons system found on Burke-class destroyers and some cruisers carry the SM-2 SAM which could fit the description of what witnesses saw.
 

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That certainly fits the hypothetical narrative better Deee, but you see the problem when some conspiracy buff says definitively the USS Seawolf did it when it clearly didn't. People just take something fake and run with it just like anything else. There's a trillion surface ships that could do that, but none linked and the Seawolf was, which is patently false.
 

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Only thing on an attack sub of that kind that is even remotely capable of doing that is a Harpoon missile that is anti ship, not anti air, and is designed to cruise just above the ocean. Don't believe any sub has ever been fitted for a Sea Sparrow or AMRAAM.

Could certainly see it being terrorism but it was *not* a US sub. I haven't looked but would venture to guess there has never been a sea to air missile strike by a sub of any kind, they just aren't designed for that.

Btw....and this is really for the 9-11 stuff....a conspiracy is only as doable as the least number of people it takes to pull it off. People can't wait to yap about *anything*. As for ANY portion of 9-11 being a conspiracy you essentially are conceding the whole thing was. Basically 100X the rest of all conspiracies combined.......and still no one's talked?

All those folks on the planes murdered and buried in New Mexico? No mid-level operative pissed his GWB or Jewish overlords stopped sending a check? Get real.

What about the USS Seawolf's janitor crew? They making a couple mill to stay quiet?

Any conspiracy over say 3 people can get pumped, and that may be generous.
That's why the plane was accidentally shot down. Navy was testing a new generation of missile that could be launched against enemy planes while submerged. It was supposed to engage a drone being towed by a P-3 Orion.

http://milfuegos.blogspot.com/2014/07/uss-seawolf-missile-shot-down-twa-800.html
 

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Still no proof of anything in that article from "milfuegos".....anything in there verified? Some blog?

What was the next generation of missile? Blogger said it was top shelf on Clinton's which list? Any inkling what it was? That was '96, should have been operational by now? Not only is it not, there's been nothing even remotely close enter the Navy's arsenal.
 

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I don't know that these folks are all in cahoots with the Democratic party, but I believe each media organization has an agenda. It's probably more to do with selling lifestyles that lead to free living and big spending more than it is to a political party though.

You really don't believe that the old media is in collusion with the dems. Just refer to the Wikileaks over this past Fall. All of these media organizations were in direct communication with Team Hillary over what stories would run and even gave her team drafts of the stories should they want to make edits. Heck many of them were feeding Hillary with large campaign contributions. None of that was afforded to Trump or either of the GOP candidates that ran against Obama.

If you compare the ratio of positive to negative stories for Hillary/Obama compared to the GOP candidates you will find that the dems get much more positive coverage. The Obama administration even bragged about being able to feed its talking points to the media which are accepted without question. Trump did one post election interview and he was grilled in a hostile manner by Leslie Stall. After Obama won, the lib media were lining up to kiss his butt and ask him softball questions like what is your favorite color (that really happened).

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ks-exposes-medias-secret-support-clinton.html

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/10/wikileaks-exposes-media-bias-clinton-team-cheering/

http://canadafreepress.com/article/...gs-about-using-gullible-media-as-his-pr-staff
 
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Btw....and this is really for the 9-11 stuff....a conspiracy is only as doable as the least number of people it takes to pull it off. People can't wait to yap about *anything*. As for ANY portion of 9-11 being a conspiracy you essentially are conceding the whole thing was. Basically 100X the rest of all conspiracies combined.......and still no one's talked?

Any conspiracy over say 3 people can get pumped, and that may be generous.

"Three can keep a secret, if two of them are dead."
-- Benjamin Franklin


I don't waste my time on conspiracy theories that would involve dozens or even hundreds of people (JFK-CIA, Lunar Landing, 9/11, etc.)
 

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TWA Flight 800 that blew up shortly after take off from Long Island was shot down by a missile. The FBI illegally took over the investigation from the National Transportation and Safety Board, literally threw them out and would not allow them near the wreckage. They then concocted a story to sell to the public that the aircraft fuel tank blew up.

I play tennis with a guy that was a TWA pilot who was flying out of Long Island at this time. I asked him about it one day and he said there was no doubt in his mind it was shot down by a missile.

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After the explosion, more than three dozen witnesses reported they’d seen contrails going up into the sky towards the plane; 18 of those people said they saw something coming up from the water, rising to meet the plane.

This is the one I was going to mention. There's a documentary involving former NHTSA personnel that swear it was shot down by a missile. That's one of the few that I actually find incredibly plausible.
 

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The movie "Operation Avalanche" on Exodus right now is a must-see for those that are interested in the moon landing being faked stuff.

 

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Titanic Captain Found In Lifeboat!

Navy Ship Picks Up Englishman In Fresh 1900s Officer's Uniform. He [Also] Thinks It's April 15, 1912 - And His Pipe Is Still Lit!

Special to the News - September 10, 1991
 

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I'll never be convinced that a large commercial airliner crashed into the Pentagon.
I like a good conspiracy theory as much as the next person but,

1.) I was actually at the Pentagon on 9/11 and saw pieces of the commercial jet airliner myself. I will concede that it burrowed into the building with such force that there wasn't as much debris as I would have expected, but there was enough, including a fairly large piece with the airline logo.

2.) I knew someone who was on the flight that hit the Pentagon. The idea that neither she nor anyone else listed on the flight log was ever seen again is a pretty big hole in your theory.