What good does the SEC getting multiple teams in the Elite 8, Final 4, and even worse one of them winning it all do for us?

[ScWildthing61]

Saw on a message board where a Gamecock fan said they hoped that exact scenario played out, my response:

"I used to regularly wave the "SEC Flag" too when we were out of the mix(basically every year) but the hard truth is all that "conference pride" does nothing for us as a program(been proven time and time again in football). If anything it just makes it harder for us to be competitive, if these teams make the kind of run you're hoping for and God forbid one of them wins it, that will be used against us in recruiting, both in the high school ranks and in the transfer portal, these other schools would receive even more money from donors and offer more NIL opportunities. No, these other programs in the SEC achieving the kind of success in this tournament you're hoping for sets us back even further as a program. So personally, I'm still hoping the remaining teams all flop."

 

[18IsTheMan]

Well, for years Gamecock fans carried the SEC banner, particularly in football, because that's all we had. We got to boast of being a mediocre team in the best conference while we denigrated Clemson for being the best team, or one of the best, in a mediocre conference. Obviously, that was a silly approach.

I don't really give a rip how our conference does in any sport. There will be some who point to the success of the SEC in the NCAAT as further proof for why our year wasn't actually all that bad in basketball.

 

[Psycock]

I think you try to sell playing in thee best basketball conference in the country, just like football. Having said that, I don`t wish all of the teams well. I can`t pull for Florida or Tennessee - I`m fine if any of the others go all of the way.

 

[will110]

This actually does benefit USC. NCAA tournament payouts go to the conference, so the better the SEC teams in the tournament do, the more money is divided between the entire conference.

Since there's nothing we can do to change how good some of these conference foes are, we might as well be glad to get something out of it.

 

[will110]

Well, for years Gamecock fans carried the SEC banner, particularly in football, because that's all we had. We got to boast of being a mediocre team in the best conference while we denigrated Clemson for being the best team, or one of the best, in a mediocre conference. Obviously, that was a silly approach.

I don't really give a rip how our conference does in any sport. There will be some who point to the success of the SEC in the NCAAT as further proof for why our year wasn't actually all that bad in basketball.

It's a reasonable explanation, but it definitely doesn't change the fact that this was a terrible year for USC MBB.

 

[Uscg1984]

It's a reasonable explanation, but it definitely doesn't change the fact that this was a terrible year for USC MBB.

You are correct that it doesn't, but if the SEC had tanked the first two rounds and only put 1 or 2 teams into the Sweet 16, there would be many on this board who would claim the season was even worse than we thought - that we finished last in a terrible, or at least overrated, conference. It goes both ways.

 

[ClassOf95]

14 SEC teams were invited to the big dance. If they all go down early, the committee will say they overestimated the conference. I’m glad other SEC teams are still playing. The bar is high and we should rise up over it.

 

[atl-cock]

To me, it feels hard to cheer on fellow conference members when there are so many of them. I feel no kinship.

 

[Harvard Gamecock]

This actually does benefit USC. NCAA tournament payouts go to the conference, so the better the SEC teams in the tournament do, the more money is divided between the entire conference.

Since there's nothing we can do to change how good some of these conference foes are, we might as well be glad to get something out of it.

We have been repeating this mantra in regards to football revenue forever, which leads to the question.
How exactly has this extra income elevated our program on a consistent basis. (We all know the answer)

 

[Harvard Gamecock]

To me, it feels hard to cheer on fellow conference members when there are so many of them. I feel no kinship.

I will not and can not ever pull for UF in any sporting competition. I hate them more than any other school and it's not even close.
(YES, I said any other school)

 

[will110]

We have been repeating this mantra in regards to football revenue forever, which leads to the question.
How exactly has this extra income elevated our program on a consistent basis. (We all know the answer)

I didn't say we should be cheering for the SEC. I was just answering the question...what does South Carolina get out of SEC teams making long tournament runs. We get more money, which is better than getting nothing.

 

[ClassOf95]

I didn't say we should be cheering for the SEC. I was just answering the question...what does South Carolina get out of SEC teams making long tournament runs. We get more money, which is better than getting nothing.

Agree. There is also a snowball effect. When conference teams are winning, they get more TV exposure which turns into bigger payouts. SEC trending up in hoops while the ACC is trending down. I’m sure ACC schools are concerned.

 

[ScWildthing61]

We have been repeating this mantra in regards to football revenue forever, which leads to the question.
How exactly has this extra income elevated our program on a consistent basis. (We all know the answer)

This! Someone else mentioned clearing the elevated bar, how's that working out again?

 

[ScWildthing61]

I didn't say we should be cheering for the SEC. I was just answering the question...what does South Carolina get out of SEC teams making long tournament runs. We get more money, which is better than getting nothing.

So do the other SEC teams which just keeps them that much further ahead of us.

 

[Harvard Gamecock]

Agree. There is also a snowball effect. When conference teams are winning, they get more TV exposure which turns into bigger payouts. SEC trending up in hoops while the ACC is trending down. I’m sure ACC schools are concerned.

Again, has this extra money elevated our programs on a consistent basis ?

 

[ClassOf95]

Again, has this extra money elevated our programs on a consistent basis ?

Which other programs are winning on a consistent basis? Bama in football is the first that comes to mind They've taken a back seat to GA. FL and TN were strong programs years ago. OSU looks strong again, we're 2-0 against them. Clemson was strong when they used special shampoo and blatantly set WR picks.

Our football is trending in the right direction. If we're in the ACC, we may or may not have experienced Lou Holtz or Spurrier/Beamer. We could be the doormat in any other conference and no one would be surprised. SEC revenue sharing has certainly helped.

 

[Harvard Gamecock]

Which other programs are winning on a consistent basis? Bama in football is the first that comes to mind They've taken a back seat to GA. FL and TN were strong programs years ago. OSU looks strong again, we're 2-0 against them. Clemson was strong when they used special shampoo and blatantly set WR picks.

Our football is trending in the right direction. If we're in the ACC, we may or may not have experienced Lou Holtz or Spurrier/Beamer. We could be the doormat in any other conference and no one would be surprised. SEC revenue sharing has certainly helped.

We had a good year last year, let's see what happens this year before the declaration of trending in the right direction applies.

You are amplifying my argument by stating Bama was winning on a consistent basis but perhaps not as much, so therefore the extra revenue although nice is not producing the results as expected.

Why OSU and Clemson are even mentioned in this dialogue concerning revenue in the SEC is a bit baffling.

 

[ClassOf95]

We had a good year last year, let's see what happens this year before the declaration of trending in the right direction applies.

You are amplifying my argument by stating Bama was winning on a consistent basis but perhaps not as much, so therefore the extra revenue although nice is not producing the results as expected.

Why OSU and Clemson are even mentioned in this dialogue concerning revenue in the SEC is a bit baffling.

Which program(s) do you think are winning on a consistent basis?

 

[atl-cock]

I will not and can not ever pull for UF in any sporting competition. I hate them more than any other school and it's not even close.
(YES, I said any other school)

As an exception, would you be okay with a Gator victory which benefits USC in conference/playoff standings?

Hope you enjoyed the Diamond Dawgs' trip to Gainesville this past weekend.

 

[atl-cock]

Agree. There is also a snowball effect. When conference teams are winning, they get more TV exposure which turns into bigger payouts. SEC trending up in hoops while the ACC is trending down. I’m sure ACC schools are concerned.

And seeing Dawn Staley in "random" commericals on ESPN is fantastic expusure for the school. An integral part of her "good will" value.

 

[atl-cock]

Which other programs are winning on a consistent basis? Bama in football is the first that comes to mind They've taken a back seat to GA. FL and TN were strong programs years ago. OSU looks strong again, we're 2-0 against them. Clemson was strong when they used special shampoo and blatantly set WR picks.

Our football is trending in the right direction. If we're in the ACC, we may or may not have experienced Lou Holtz or Spurrier/Beamer. We could be the doormat in any other conference and no one would be surprised. SEC revenue sharing has certainly helped.

Technically, we did have Holtz while in the ACC (assitant under Dietzel).

 

[Harvard Gamecock]

As an exception, would you be okay with a Gator victory which benefits USC in conference/playoff standings?

Hope you enjoyed the Diamond Dawgs' trip to Gainesville this past weekend.

I just wont watch

 

[Harvard Gamecock]

Which program(s) do you think are winning on a consistent basis?

We all know (or least most on here) the schools that are considered the tip tier within the SEC. At these schools a 7-5 campaign would not only be considered an anomaly but a major disappointment.
Sadly, we are not one of those.

 

[funktavious]

Agree. There is also a snowball effect. When conference teams are winning, they get more TV exposure which turns into bigger payouts. SEC trending up in hoops while the ACC is trending down. I’m sure ACC schools are concerned.

We also used to lose a ton of our best in-state recruits to ACC schools because of their blue blood status and the fact that the ACC was considered the best or one of the best conferences in college basketball. Hopefully with the ACC trending down, we might be able to keep some talent at home.

 

[atl-cock]

We also used to lose a ton of our best in-state recruits to ACC schools because of their blue blood status and the fact that the ACC was considered the best or one of the best conferences in college basketball. Hopefully with the ACC trending down, we might be able to keep some talent at home.

We could have been a blue blood, and were on the cusp of becomming one........