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What Happens if Kentucky Doesn't Make A Bowl Game This Year?

Frydaze

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Probably the most direct question to ask at this point.

If they don't go a minimum 6-6 this year and make a bowl game, meaning Year 4 of 4 in the Stoops era of no bowl appearances, do you go in a different direction?

Or does going 5-7 at this point, but playing much better and more competitive the rest of the year, bring him back next year?

Here's the reality:

UK needs to go 6-4 the rest of this season to salvage a 6-6 year and be bowl eligible. There are only 5 very winnable games in my mind left--South Carolina, Vandy, Mizzou, Austin Peay, New Mexico State.

This means UK must win ALL 5 plus find at least one upset win in there to get to 6-6.

Admittedly, where this team is at right now, I don't beam with confidence with 6-6 happening.
 
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If you really expected this team to make a bowl then you do not understand college football. I knew at the end of last year they weren't making a bowl this year.
 
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I am typically an eternal optimist but this team isn't making a bowl. Did you see that OL and defense? UGA is going to run for 400 yards and control the time of possession. Miss St pounded Vandy and we're no better than the Commodores. Speaking of Vandy, that's a toss up and I wouldn't be surprised to see us lose because of our play in the trenches.

There's a better chance we win 2 or less games than win 6. It's that bad.
 
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JasonS.

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Bowl game!?!?!

 
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If you don't make a bowl now you are horrible. If you make a bowl with a minimum number of wins you are pretty much still awful. UK had built in three home cupcake wins (already messed one of those up) . You pretty much only have finish 3-6 to go to a bowl game now days. If winning 6 in year four is a goal then you have to question the hire or expectation.
 
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If we were to go 5-5 the rest of the way, Stoops isn't going anywhere.

I'll say there is around a 10% chance of that happening.

That might even be a bit generous.
 
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Kats23

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Finishing 5-7 at this point would be nothing short of a miraculous turnaround. Im not sure we're going to win an SEC game mind 3 of them
 
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KentuckyRLD said:
Now that is funny. Glad to see you haven't lost your sense of humor. As you well know, Georgia will beat Florida. Georgia against UK will be a total embarrassment.
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I'd agree--Georgia is a game that doesn't appear out of reach at this point.

Like Kentucky, it will all depend on how much improvement Georgia makes between now and when the two teams play.
 
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Aike

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My gut tells me that we need to be in the 2-3 win range for Stoops to contemplate walking away with a negotiated lesser buyout.
 
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We might be able to take down Northwestern New Mexico Tech and Austin Peay.....maybe, and go for the 2 wins.
 
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RonEJones said:
I am typically an eternal optimist but this team isn't making a bowl. Did you see that OL and defense? UGA is going to run for 400 yards and control the time of possession. Miss St pounded Vandy and we're no better than the Commodores. Speaking of Vandy, that's a toss up and I wouldn't be surprised to see us lose because of our play in the trenches.

There's a better chance we win 2 or less games than win 6. It's that bad.
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No I dids not see any defense. I did not see any offense. Special teams weren't special. I could take losing but the comedy of errors on both sides of the ball is not funny.
 
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frydaze said:
Probably the most direct question to ask at this point.

If they don't go a minimum 6-6 this year and make a bowl game, meaning Year 4 of 4 in the Stoops era of no bowl appearances, do you go in a different direction?

Or does going 5-7 at this point, but playing much better and more competitive the rest of the year, bring him back next year?

Here's the reality:

UK needs to go 6-4 the rest of this season to salvage a 6-6 year and be bowl eligible. There are only 5 very winnable games in my mind left--South Carolina, Vandy, Mizzou, Austin Peay, New Mexico State.

This means UK must win ALL 5 plus find at least one upset win in there to get to 6-6.

Admittedly, where this team is at right now, I don't beam with confidence with 6-6 happening.
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I picked them to go 5-7 this year and personally thought 5-7 will actually be a good year. They simply aren't going to get to 5-7 this year.

Mark Stoops has done nothing since he's been here. Those upgrades were coming regardless of who the new coach was.

UK obviously made a bad decision in hiring him and has exacerbated that decision by giving him an unconscionable extension.
 
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RonEJones said:
I am typically an eternal optimist but this team isn't making a bowl. Did you see that OL and defense? UGA is going to run for 400 yards and control the time of possession. Miss St pounded Vandy and we're no better than the Commodores. Speaking of Vandy, that's a toss up and I wouldn't be surprised to see us lose because of our play in the trenches.

There's a better chance we win 2 or less games than win 6. It's that bad.
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This is what our OL looks like trying to block a pass rush and our DL looks like trying to stop a running back:
 
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Grumpyolddawg

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ulismyman said:
Did you see georgia yesterday...thats winnable
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No doubt we stunk the place up yesterday, Nichol sold out to stop the run, we dropped a couple of deep balls against them, fumbled a punt inside the 10 and they returned a tip int nearly 100 yards. Played the game not to lose it instead of win it and I am really disappointed in that. We were determined to run the ball inside and they had 8-9 guys determined to stop our inside game, we throw the ball downfield, we were open, caught some, dropped some.
 
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EliteBlue said:
Nicholls States D line is 100x better than hours and that's where it all starts. The 2 kids from Last Chance U are legit D1 linemen.
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They could start for us not just play, were much better than UNC's DL. My guess is even after JUCO neither one could qualify for a D1 program.
 
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RonEJones said:
I am typically an eternal optimist but this team isn't making a bowl. Did you see that OL and defense? UGA is going to run for 400 yards and control the time of possession. Miss St pounded Vandy and we're no better than the Commodores. Speaking of Vandy, that's a toss up and I wouldn't be surprised to see us lose because of our play in the trenches.

There's a better chance we win 2 or less games than win 6. It's that bad.
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Id favor Vandy right now. The recipe to beat us is so simple. Pressure the QB and that will eliminate our passing game. Our O Line can do very little stop it. On offense, simply hand the ball off. So yeah the lines are so bad that right now don't think we beat Vandy.
 
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frydaze said:
Probably the most direct question to ask at this point.

If they don't go a minimum 6-6 this year and make a bowl game, meaning Year 4 of 4 in the Stoops era of no bowl appearances, do you go in a different direction?

Or does going 5-7 at this point, but playing much better and more competitive the rest of the year, bring him back next year?

Here's the reality:

UK needs to go 6-4 the rest of this season to salvage a 6-6 year and be bowl eligible. There are only 5 very winnable games in my mind left--South Carolina, Vandy, Mizzou, Austin Peay, New Mexico State.

This means UK must win ALL 5 plus find at least one upset win in there to get to 6-6.

Admittedly, where this team is at right now, I don't beam with confidence with 6-6 happening.
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You think Vandy is very winnable? Didn't you see what they did to Middle Tennessee?
 
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frydaze said:
I'd agree--Georgia is a game that doesn't appear out of reach at this point.

Like Kentucky, it will all depend on how much improvement Georgia makes between now and when the two teams play.
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Stoops has a very poor track record against any type of team, but he has shown even more incompetence against teams with talent. Usually can't even come up with a plan to keep them somewhat competitive.
 
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Don't win 6 and Stoops is gone. Period. No way you can trot Stoops and this staff out there again. It was a chore to get fans to come back and believe this season after collapses the last two seasons, no way you can do it again. I believe if Stoops and this staff return, we'll see lots of transfers and recruiting fall off a cliff. The bigger question for me is, what happens if we get beat by New Mexico St next week? It's certainly possible. At that point do you make a change mid-season? You can't let this program go 1-11 and do nothing. I'm just so frustrated.
 
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Frydaze

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elwood_blue said:
You think Vandy is very winnable? Didn't you see what they did to Middle Tennessee?
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Oh yeah, how could I have been so wrong. Vandy is suddenly a powerhouse this year and no way in God's earth can UK even stand a prayer to beat them.

I never said UK would be them--I called it a "winnable" game...look up the definition of that.
 
Frydaze

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cats2010 said:
The Florida game was supposed to be winnable too after their showing against UMASS. How'd that work out for us?
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What the hell were you drinking?

UK hadn't beaten Florida since Christ was a baby, they were playing in the Swamp, and UK was coming off a humiliating loss at home against Southern Miss.

Because Florida didn't completely roll UMass you thought that was "winnable"?

I have dozens of UK fans and not one of them expected UK to win in Gainesville yesterday.
 
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