What I know about Jason Hart…

[flacat22]

Oh I see the difference here. You guys are using Florida and Rutgers as your metrics. I want our program to dominate college basketball. We're playing 2 diff games.

Have fun trying to catch lightning in the bottle to make a solid run.

Well yeah. One is the national champion with a solid roster of young and old including veteran portal additions and have returning players this season. That’s sustainable. The other team was a flop after paying through the nose for two elite kids who didn’t do dick to help the program and are long gone. Rutgers was literally the lightning in the bottle model that you covet that failed miserably. Clearly unsustainable.

 

[ToniTonyToneDelkDelkDelk]

Yeah idk. I think its fair to question everyone. Now maybe he will turn out to be a great hire, I have no clue. But if you want to stay at the top of college basketball, every single facet of the program and every hire needs to be solid. Head coach, personal trainer, facilities, medical staff. Nothing should ever be "par" for the course.

And that's how I feel.

 

[ToniTonyToneDelkDelkDelk]

12 comments in a row … get a grip

My bad. Is there a time cap or etiquette for responses?

I'm simply replying to those who replied to me.

 

[flacat22]

We're not Rutgers. Have some self respect.

Crowe's dad has been coaching him the entire way. He is also tapped in and a former professional player. If Jason can't persuade his friend that the University of Kentucky is a superior option to showcase his son, develop his game and prepare him for his ultimate goal the NBA that is a failure.

Don't get accustomed to failure. Be better bro.

I didn’t compare us to Rutgers, learn to read. It has been said here and elsewhere that the head coach, Mark Pope, who makes the decisions moved on from Crowe so the assistant would’ve too. Not a Hart failure.

It’s hilarious you rag on Hart for having a “mid” 9 year NBA career as not good enough for an assistant but then call Crowe’s dad, who never played a tick in the NBA and whose ceiling was the Australian and New Zealand leagues a “professional.” Stop “bro.”

There is no one immune from criticism but baseless, ignorant finger pointing with no independent knowledge of what happened and whining when a kid follows the money, a job for daddy and where he can be “the guy” for a season is lazy and weak.

 

[ToniTonyToneDelkDelkDelk]

So, relying solely on talented yet unproven, immature, physically weak(er) 17/18 year olds that stay for 1 year is sustainable? Who has proven to be more successful lately, Houston or Rutgers? Florida or Miami?

Lol all you want. You must’ve been sleeping through the last 8 years here and truly ignorant if you don’t recognize that college basketball IS changing.

The best teams, including our own that were contenders the last 10 years require a diverse mix of talent both youth and upperclassmen.

 

[ComebackCats98]

I should clarify my earlier posts. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with having high expectations for our entire coaching staff. I guess my thing is it’s a small sample size right now. We got two top 30 recruits that were local. Let’s see how this class plays out without in state recruits

 

[UK4Life#9]

The landscape... lol.

Talent is always the ultimate source of building a long term sustainable program. Relying on low ceiling adult transfers is not a fool proof strategy.

Good way to say that you’re absolutely clueless about college basketball! This actually made me laugh out loud. You are definitely a little brother fan, I’ve never met a UK fan that has the basketball IQ of a toddler.

 

[Eagles_Ball_69]

Hey brother, do you by chance have any connection to North Bullitt High School?? I ask because I graduated from there and my daughter currently plays varsity volleyball there. Just wondering.

Not at all. I teach and coach, but in MO.

 

[un4getables]

He was a pretty mid to bad basketball player.

He’s from LA.

He was in charge of G-League Ignite and did such a bad job developing its players that the team folded and most of the prospects came to the league unprepared for the NBA.

He didn’t land his childhood friend’s son at Kentucky.

Now please tell me again… why is he on our staff? What is value exactly?

Who has he served as the lead recruiter on that we landed?

I guess I will do what I swore I wouldn't and reply to a TROLL post.. Well doesn't matter if he was friends with his dad when said Missouri school hired HIS dad to be on the staff and DROPPED a lot of money for his son... Good luck overcoming that... You need to go touch some grass or stay on whatever team board you are a fan of.

 

[ToniTonyToneDelkDelkDelk]

Good way to say that you’re absolutely clueless about college basketball! This actually made me laugh out loud. You are definitely a little brother fan, I’ve never met a UK fan that has the basketball IQ of a toddler.

You have to be an AI bot or a teen villain from an 80s movie, real adults don’t talk like this.

 

[ToniTonyToneDelkDelkDelk]

I guess I will do what I swore I wouldn't and reply to a TROLL post.. Well doesn't matter if he was friends with his dad when said Missouri school hired HIS dad to be on the staff and DROPPED a lot of money for his son... Good luck overcoming that... You need to go touch some grass or stay on whatever team board you are a fan of.

Yes, the ultimate plan of infiltrating this message board in order to create division amongst a fanbase to turn on an inept assistant coach who has not landed any recruits.

 

[flacat22]

Yes, the ultimate plan of infiltrating this message board in order to create division amongst a fanbase to turn on an inept assistant coach who has not landed any recruits.

Then you’re a really ignorant, unreasonable and unrealistic UK fan, the kind other fanbases mock us about.

 

[PastorofMuppets82]

Does Braydon Hawthorne count as an out of state freshmen recruit (#33 on On 3) or Jelavic count as an out of state freshmen recruit? Just asking for future Pope can't recruit out of state players discussions when those two go off and shoot up the NBA draft mocks.

 

[UK4Life#9]

You have to be an AI bot or a teen villain from an 80s movie, real adults don’t talk like this.

Real adults don’t come to opposing teams forums and spew uneducated opinions like you either. Possibly the dumbest troll yet, that’s really saying something…

 

[ToniTonyToneDelkDelkDelk]

Real adults don’t come to opposing teams forums and spew uneducated opinions like you either. Possibly the dumbest troll yet, that’s really saying something…

You'd rather hypothesize this ridiculous leap of occurrences instead of believing someone has an opinion different than your own.

 

[ToniTonyToneDelkDelkDelk]

Then you’re a really ignorant, unreasonable and unrealistic UK fan, the kind other fanbases mock us about.

It's unreasonable to hope our assistant coaches do the job they are hired for?

Y'all really have an accountability problem.

 

[ToniTonyToneDelkDelkDelk]

Does Braydon Hawthorne count as an out of state freshmen recruit (#33 on On 3) or Jelavic count as an out of state freshmen recruit? Just asking for future Pope can't recruit out of state players discussions when those two go off and shoot up the NBA draft mocks.

Both solid prospects. Neither were blue chips.

 

[UK4Life#9]

You'd rather hypothesize this ridiculous leap of occurrences instead of believing someone has an opinion different than your own.

Oh yeah, I’m fuming over your lack of intelligence.

Little brothers are so weird!

 

[AJBlue]

But landing inefficient freshman who often play worse hoping to get John Wall is a better strategy? Even Cal isn’t going all in on freshman anymore. That tells you everything you need to know.

Thats the real problem. Guys like Toney place all their emotions behind a ranking of guys they've probably never seen play or know anything about. They couldnt break down the games of a top 5 guy vs. the portal guys one bit, just reacting to the list and hyperventaliting when we dont get the next one on that list. Even the coaches get caught up in ratings watching when targeting guys and they are all taking a somewhat of a flyer on them as they dont know how they'll tranlate to the college game till they get here. That's why more and more are putting their money and time towards more experience guys with a track record at this level.

 

[Cole World]

This is an embarrassing display of brain functionality

 

[Hank Camacho]

I'm THRILLED we didn't get Crowe. I think recruiting freshmen is stupid unless one of three conditions applies:

1. Only take a one-and-done if he is a true superstar who will perform as one in college. None of this crap like getting Tyrese Maxey when he was 17 years old. Cooper Flagg, John Wall, Anthony Davis, etc or GTFO.
   
   
2. For non-superstars, a possible one-and-done freshman is only worth it if you have a hole in your roster and the freshman can be a likely starter.
   
   
3. Otherwise, I only want freshmen who are likely to be here for multiple years and have the talent to contribute as a rotation player by their sophomore year.

 

[*Fox2Monk*]

Thats the real problem. Guys like Toney place all their emotions behind a ranking of guys they've probably never seen play or know anything about. They couldnt break down the games of a top 5 guy vs. the portal guys one bit, just reacting to the list and hyperventaliting when we dont get the next one on that list. Even the coaches get caught up in ratings watching when targeting guys and they are all taking a somewhat of a flyer on them as they dont know how they'll tranlate to the college game till they get here. That's why more and more are putting their money and time towards more experience guys with a track record at this level.

Truth, even people who know their games well can’t make much of a guess how their games translate. You have your Walls, Cousins, Randles, Flaggs, AD type players who you know will be top players a
most 99% of the time. All others could be AA level or Kahlil Whitney in college.

 

[*Fox2Monk*]

I'm THRILLED we didn't get Crowe. I think recruiting freshmen is stupid unless one of three conditions applies:

1. Only take a one-and-done if he is a true superstar who will perform as one in college. None of this crap like getting Tyrese Maxey when he was 17 years old. Cooper Flagg, John Wall, Anthony Davis, etc or GTFO.
   
   
2. For non-superstars, a possible one-and-done freshman is only worth it if you have a hole in your roster and the freshman can be a likely starter.
   
   
3. Otherwise, I only want freshmen who are likely to be here for multiple years and have the talent to contribute as a rotation player by their sophomore year.

Maxey was a great player, I’d say a EJ Montgomery is more like it.

 

[un4getables]

Yes, the ultimate plan of infiltrating this message board in order to create division amongst a fanbase to turn on an inept assistant coach who has not landed any recruits.

Yet you still didn't reply to why he went to Mizzou. TROLL.

 

[Jkr21790]

We need a mixture of both. Get 3-4 top tier recruits with a couple being top 5-10 types. Then like 3-4 big time transfers. Guys with experience but also major talent like a Kam Williams or a JQ. And a couple key returning players. If we get Lowe. Jasper. Chandler. Hawthorne. Mo D and/or Jelevic and Moreno back. Rippey. Thompson. Muurinen as impact freshmen. A stud 2G who can shoot. A developmental 3 and an impact C we set.

 

[ToniTonyToneDelkDelkDelk]

Yet you still didn't reply to why he went to Mizzou. TROLL.

Because we couldn’t convince a knowledgeable father and son that Kentucky is a superior place for his short term and long term goals and development. And whatever short term gains they would get by going to Missouri would pale in comparison to being at Kentucky.

I’ll say it so it’s easier for you to understand, we failed at closing the deal.

 

[ToniTonyToneDelkDelkDelk]

We need a mixture of both. Get 3-4 top tier recruits with a couple being top 5-10 types. Then like 3-4 big time transfers. Guys with experience but also major talent like a Kam Williams or a JQ. And a couple key returning players. If we get Lowe. Jasper. Chandler. Hawthorne. Mo D and/or Jelevic and Moreno back. Rippey. Thompson. Muurinen as impact freshmen. A stud 2G who can shoot. A developmental 3 and an impact C we set.

I do not disagree.