What If I told you,...

Goomlah

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I'm sure a lot of people wondered where I went. Basically after all the arguing and complaining no one won. Fenwick should have won and didn't. Plainfield North deserves to be complimented on a great season but never will be. The officials lost a state title game and credibility. The IHSA cowered behind bylaws and laws instead of doing what's right. The lawyers lost time before thanksgiving. Fans have lost more respect for officials and their relationship will get worse. It's a terrible situation made by incompetence, bureaucracy, and stupidity. We all lost. Not sure if that's happened in IHSA history. Hope it never happens again.
 

PRokie

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No worries Gooms...
once the Order of the NIPL is in ratified by the privates, they will have only NFL and Big 10 officials.
This will minimize the load on the current number of officials we have now hopefully allowing for greater training and education.

I myself would like to see ALL of the self proclaimed football experts here throw the stripes on for a game or two. It might just change their perspective somewhat giving a little respect to those they choose to so easily disrespect.

If officials were supposed to be perfect, they wouldn't have started using replays and challenges at the highest levels.

Let's see how many of these people would do what you do for what you do it for... and put up with THEM!

Keep Chugging Gooms!
 
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PRokie

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Oh wait... if the NIPL has NFL and Big 10 officials, but no replay...

Who do they take to court when one of the officials gets it wrong?
 

jwarigaku

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PRokie,

I don't think Gooms views it as them against us from either perspective. Gooms as a newer ref tends to get the sophomore game but then does something I think very unique compared to others. He joins the crowd for the Varsity game and shares his thoughts. He listens, engages, and tries to learn from every experience. He is the consummate ref/fan and because of this when he vents I almost always give him a pass because it truly is for him...about the Love of the Game. There is no doubt in my mind, public or private, he's in it for the kids!

No worries Gooms...
once the Order of the NIPL is in ratified by the privates, they will have only NFL and Big 10 officials.
This will minimize the load on the current number of officials we have now hopefully allowing for greater training and education.

I myself would like to see ALL of the self proclaimed football experts here throw the stripes on for a game or two. It might just change their perspective somewhat giving a little respect to those they choose to so easily disrespect.

If officials were supposed to be perfect, they wouldn't have started using replays and challenges at the highest levels.

Let's see how many of these people would do what you do for what you do it for... and put up with THEM!

Keep Chugging Gooms!
 

Goomlah

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Thank you Jeff. My 1st varsity game seen this year was Gw-Neuqua but I try my best to watch games and learn. Here's a true story that happened Sunday as I was officiating basketball that explains me pretty well. Had 3 games: Game 1 something happens off the ball. I knew something happened, just not sure what. Coach says it was a sucker punch. Have to see that to call it. Game 3 game tied late. Loose ball. White has ball. Coach calls timeout, white player starts swinging elbows and clips a defender, time out granted, then technical foul for the elbow. Same coach from game 1 was pissed. Nothing I could do really as both plays were 30 feet away from me. I saw 1 thing,... Not the other. Coach was angry. I would be too. Not much I said to him would affect how he feels. I was mad and angry at a lot of things then. Got out as fast as possible. I knew I tried my best. Did we get everything right? No. But I still felt bad because I knew I effected a result. That's not our job but sometimes you must make a tough decision. I feel Saturday at triton college not only everyone lost but also everyone afterwards took the high road. That is not what this profession is about. That's where my anger lies.
 

RockSoup

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Thank you Jeff. My 1st varsity game seen this year was Gw-Neuqua but I try my best to watch games and learn. Here's a true story that happened Sunday as I was officiating basketball that explains me pretty well. Had 3 games: Game 1 something happens off the ball. I knew something happened, just not sure what. Coach says it was a sucker punch. Have to see that to call it. Game 3 game tied late. Loose ball. White has ball. Coach calls timeout, white player starts swinging elbows and clips a defender, time out granted, then technical foul for the elbow. Same coach from game 1 was pissed. Nothing I could do really as both plays were 30 feet away from me. I saw 1 thing,... Not the other. Coach was angry. I would be too. Not much I said to him would affect how he feels. I was mad and angry at a lot of things then. Got out as fast as possible. I knew I tried my best. Did we get everything right? No. But I still felt bad because I knew I effected a result. That's not our job but sometimes you must make a tough decision. I feel Saturday at triton college not only everyone lost but also everyone afterwards took the high road. That is not what this profession is about. That's where my anger lies.

Thanks gooms for your input as always. I have never reffed. But I run a couple orgs that use refs so my first order of business is to tell my parents and coaches at this level (youth sports) the refs are always right and that we have a mandatory 24 hr cooling off period and a grievance system set up with our director of officials.

I learned my lesson early on in college ball that changed my perspective on sport officials forever. I was ranting and raving as a player at a call and the ump with the calmest demeanor ever looked me in the eye and said, "if I miss a call by a couple of inches, relax. If I miss a call by a couple of feet then I might hear your case." It was perfect and I shut my mouth ever since.