You can have what, 85 scholarship players on the roster at any given time? So what is the max number you can sign in any given class? With some of the transfers, it would seem we could have room to sign a pretty big class. I'm just curious what the limit is.
What is currently the maximum number of kids you can sign per class?
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The official limit is 25 in the SEC, with carryovers and other maneuvering UK could reach 27 or so occasionally.
At Thug U about 34, and Petrino had 34 his one year at WKU, not sure what his number at UL comes out to be with all the transfers at Transfer U.
At Thug U about 34, and Petrino had 34 his one year at WKU, not sure what his number at UL comes out to be with all the transfers at Transfer U.
25, unless you did not sign a full class in the previous year, and then you can back date a few (I thought it was up to 3 more, but I know Tennessee signed 30+ a couple years in a row, so I'm not sure how they did that).
Considering only 22 signed in 2015, that gives 3 additional signees for this class (early enrollees Drake Jackson, Kash Daniels, Leavitt can take those 3 spots).
So, as long as there is room under the 85 limit, I think as many as 28 could sign.
Considering only 22 signed in 2015, that gives 3 additional signees for this class (early enrollees Drake Jackson, Kash Daniels, Leavitt can take those 3 spots).
So, as long as there is room under the 85 limit, I think as many as 28 could sign.
The exact number in the SEC is 25 signed letters of intent (LOI) per class. You can do that if you have room under the 85 scholarship limit that is counted when school starts in August.
Class size and number of LOI isn't the same thing. Think of it as a moving average.
Let's say we sign 25 every year of which 5 are early enrollees. In 2016 20 of those would be counted towards the 2016 class and 5 towards the 2015 class and so on.
Also, transfers don't count towards the 25 limit since transfers already have been counted by the NCAA at their first school.
Class size and number of LOI isn't the same thing. Think of it as a moving average.
Let's say we sign 25 every year of which 5 are early enrollees. In 2016 20 of those would be counted towards the 2016 class and 5 towards the 2015 class and so on.
Also, transfers don't count towards the 25 limit since transfers already have been counted by the NCAA at their first school.
And the 85 limit is no problem at all at some schools, not necessary to name some of them.
After reviewing the roster, I think Stoops & Co could sign about 30-31 players and still be under the 85 limit. That doesn't include 1-2 additional guys in the JR class who don't play much that may graduate and move on. If that or additional transfers occur, the number would be 33 or so that could be signed to stay under the 85 limit.
However, 28 is the limit UNLESS some in the 2015 class were back dated, but I don't think they were as the 2014 class was huge with 28 signees.
However, 28 is the limit UNLESS some in the 2015 class were back dated, but I don't think they were as the 2014 class was huge with 28 signees.
Having transfers not count against the 25 is a huge advantage for Transfer U, and as noted the 85 limit is no problem for them and others of their ilk.
Add in the more than DOUBLE COA allowance and no wonder BP's recruiting has improved so much. I would never want to stoop to jurich's level, but come on.
Do you know how much mj you can buy with an extra $5,000 a year, Quick is going to make a fortune. That is a lot more money than the $100 handshakes hurtt could give with his $5,000 "loan", but of course that was only the tip of the iceberg, the jailbird had to get rid of the rest of the $930,000,000 he scammed investors out of before he went to prison.
Add in the more than DOUBLE COA allowance and no wonder BP's recruiting has improved so much. I would never want to stoop to jurich's level, but come on.
Do you know how much mj you can buy with an extra $5,000 a year, Quick is going to make a fortune. That is a lot more money than the $100 handshakes hurtt could give with his $5,000 "loan", but of course that was only the tip of the iceberg, the jailbird had to get rid of the rest of the $930,000,000 he scammed investors out of before he went to prison.
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We should be able to sign 28 since we only signed 22 last year. We can backdate the early enrollees. I expect us to sign 28 or at least pretty close to it. Between the transfers which have already happened and the ones that will happen I don't think it will be hard to come in at the 85 scholarship limit. It will be interesting to see what this recruiting class ends up looking like. It's a good looking class so far with a lot of talent at positions of need though loosing K Smith Defintely hurts. I expect us to hit the juco ranks hard to help fill out the class with some immediate help. Stoops has had great success with juco players so far.
This is about the most confusing concept in college football to me. From how it has been explained to me multiple times you can sign up to 28 but only admit 25. But if you have had classes that were short you can count back to those classes. Say in 2013 you sign 20, 2014 you sign 22, you can count 5 of those if they can EE providing you have 5 spots open on the roster, can't have more than 85 on scholarship. This leaves you with the ability to sign +8 in the 15 class, providing 8 can EE and you can fit 8 in and not excede the 85 limit.
So the number you have graduating midyear, transferring will determine how many you can EE and count back to the preceding class. If the roster is depleted in numbers it will take 2-3 years to get back to 85.
I think the year UT had such a big class they had a really small class the year before and had like 8 EE or something like that.
It all depends on EEs. You can only bring in 25 guys in the fall for one class. But assuming you have scholarships to back track, you can bring in more. Let's say you have 6 open scholarships due to transfer or going to the NFL and can sign a full 25 class due to scholarship openings, that means you can bring in 31 guys in the incoming class assuming that 6 of them are EEs. That's why EEs are so important. That's what allows you to sign the high number classes.
Three numbers to remember and to calculate.
The 85 overall team scholarship limitation enforced by the NCAA.
The 25 per year initial counter (those that enroll) limitation enforced by the NCAA.
The 25 per year letter of intent (LOI) limitation enforced by the SEC.
Both of the 25 limitations can be back counted to the previous class if unused.
The 85 overall team scholarship limitation enforced by the NCAA.
The 25 per year initial counter (those that enroll) limitation enforced by the NCAA.
The 25 per year letter of intent (LOI) limitation enforced by the SEC.
Both of the 25 limitations can be back counted to the previous class if unused.
I think UK is going to have some players leave once practice starts. Stoops just had to deal with alot of dissension in the ranks. I think guys that start that me **** and pouting will be asked to hit the road. This team needs leaders who wanna work hard. Some of these guys think they earned pt in highschool
Scary thought that UL doesn't have to count their transfers, it makes 35 incoming quite possible at a win at all costs school-------which jurich and their fans epitomize------and it would be VERY tough to hold on if they decided they needed your slot for someone like say, the defensive POTY in the Big 12, ask the RB that ended up at Wake Forest (IIRC). Testing.
The testing above is because I have noticed all my sentences run together, one space between them instead of two, the testing above has two spaces, but when posted it turns out to be one, similar to this sentence. Anyone have an explanation for this, Mods or anyone?
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We had a roster way under 85 and had room to backcount EEs from 2012-2013
Tennessee
31 2015
29 2014
22 2013
22 2012
104 total
Kentucky
28 2015
22 2014
23 2013
26 2012
99 total
I know you like to make things up and adopt them as the truth, but you might want to check that 34 number at any school.
Louisville has signed 10 less players than Kentucky the last 4 recruiting classes and Tennessee only has 5 more than Kentucky in the same time frame.
Facts and stuff...
> You can sign (i.e., actually enroll in the fall) a maximum of 25 players each year subject to the 85 total scholarship limit. You may have more than 25 sign LOIs (subject to conference limits) but no more than 25 can be given a scholarship and enroll in the fall. The exception to this rule is...
> You may sign more than 25 (always subject to the 85 total cap) if the prior year class was less than 25. If you signed 23 last year you could sign 27 this year IF 2 of those players are early (i.e., December) enrollees and thus technically part of last year's class. Perhaps a better way to think of it (i.e., back counters) is they are "late additions" to last year's class.
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> You may sign more than 25 (always subject to the 85 total cap) if the prior year class was less than 25. If you signed 23 last year you could sign 27 this year IF 2 of those players are early (i.e., December) enrollees and thus technically part of last year's class. Perhaps a better way to think of it (i.e., back counters) is they are "late additions" to last year's class.
Peace
At this point UK has 58 returning recruited scholarship players plus two walk ons who have been awarded scholarships who will return with eligibility. There are also at least four guys who have rarely played, including two redshirt juniors, who IMO are very likely to be gone.
Transfers from four year colleges or re enrollees only count against the 85, not the 25 per year. We could very easily see UK have 30 'new' scholarship players in fall camp, and I expect that we will. .
Transfers from four year colleges or re enrollees only count against the 85, not the 25 per year. We could very easily see UK have 30 'new' scholarship players in fall camp, and I expect that we will. .