What Is "Good Coaching"?

kybkh

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One trait above all else shows a coaches ability. How much better the coach can make the player.

Simple right? I understand that different sports require other various attributes depending on that particular sport, but at the end of the day a good coach will make a player better at whatever sport they play.

I am going to cherry pick a couple of examples relevant to Stoops to illustrate why I feel he is not the best "coach" for UK.

First, Matt Elam. He is the best case study for this topic since he is by far the most ballyhooed and highest rated recruit to come to UK. The fact that Saban was taking a private jet to court this kid says to me he had the potential to be a quality ball player.

Anyone who watched the UF game would never believe that guy has received 3 years of collegiate level coaching. He has no technique, none. He doesn't know how to even leverage his body to hold his ground. His conditioning is suspect which is hard to even imagine how that could be possible after being in an SEC program for 3 full years. Coach Stoops has without question failed to develop Matt Elam.

Second, Drew Barker. 2nd highest rated recruit. Also courted by big boy schools. Also appears like a deer in the headlights entering his sophomore season.

Third, Dorian Baker. Kid has a ton of potential. Huuuuge hands, strong frame and not developed.

Boom Williams, Jojo, Towles, etc. etc. etc.

I can't think of a single player who has outperformed their expectations under Stoops.
 
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Another thing to me is to create and execute a game plan. Look at WKU against Alabama, they were almost always in position to make a play and then executed good technique in tackling/blocking. When they were beat, it was clearly a speed/talent issue.

Kentucky, on the other hand, can't block or tackle. They line up in the wrong position and have a total inability to adjust to what the other team is doing. Southern Miss ran the same play 30 plus times and we were just as lost on the last as we were the first.
 
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blubo

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One trait above all else shows a coaches ability. How much better the coach can make the player.

Simple right? I understand that different sports require other various attributes depending on that particular sport, but at the end of the day a good coach will make a player better at whatever sport they play.

I am going to cherry pick a couple of examples relevant to Stoops to illustrate why I feel he is not the best "coach" for UK.

First, Matt Elam. He is the best case study for this topic since he is by far the most ballyhooed and highest rated recruit to come to UK. The fact that Saban was taking a private jet to court this kid says to me he had the potential to be a quality ball player.

Anyone who watched the UF game would never believe that guy has received 3 years of collegiate level coaching. He has no technique, none. He doesn't know how to even leverage his body to hold his ground. His conditioning is suspect which is hard to even imagine how that could be possible after being in an SEC program for 3 full years. Coach Stoops has without question failed to develop Matt Elam.

Second, Drew Barker. 2nd highest rated recruit. Also courted by big boy schools. Also appears like a deer in the headlights entering his sophomore season.

Third, Dorian Baker. Kid has a ton of potential. Huuuuge hands, strong frame and not developed.

Boom Williams, Jojo, Towles, etc. etc. etc.

I can't think of a single player who has outperformed their expectations under Stoops.

A school like bama could afford to sit him for 2 - 3 yrs until he develops and can contribute by his jr, sr year.
UK doesn't have the luxury of already having talent at his position that would allow that.
 

Katwatcher

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One trait above all else shows a coaches ability. How much better the coach can make the player.

Simple right? I understand that different sports require other various attributes depending on that particular sport, but at the end of the day a good coach will make a player better at whatever sport they play.

I am going to cherry pick a couple of examples relevant to Stoops to illustrate why I feel he is not the best "coach" for UK.

First, Matt Elam. He is the best case study for this topic since he is by far the most ballyhooed and highest rated recruit to come to UK. The fact that Saban was taking a private jet to court this kid says to me he had the potential to be a quality ball player.

Anyone who watched the UF game would never believe that guy has received 3 years of collegiate level coaching. He has no technique, none. He doesn't know how to even leverage his body to hold his ground. His conditioning is suspect which is hard to even imagine how that could be possible after being in an SEC program for 3 full years. Coach Stoops has without question failed to develop Matt Elam.

Second, Drew Barker. 2nd highest rated recruit. Also courted by big boy schools. Also appears like a deer in the headlights entering his sophomore season.

Third, Dorian Baker. Kid has a ton of potential. Huuuuge hands, strong frame and not developed.

Boom Williams, Jojo, Towles, etc. etc. etc.

I can't think of a single player who has outperformed their expectations under Stoops.

I agree with you in principle all players should improve daily with good coaching and I think they do. However it takes some players longer than others to put it all together.

Elam still has the potential to be a good player. He had weight problem which has improved. Also some players don't want to be red shirted, that might be why he didn't go to Alabama.

Drew Barker is not the only QB to appear like a deer in the headlights when he is thrown in to action with no offensive lineman.

The same applies to players like Dorian Baker, Boom Boom Williams. I can see improvements in all these players








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Development by coaches is a tricky subject. Other than the QB position the "basic fundamentals" are pretty much the same across the board. Yes, some coaches are better teachers than others but a HUGE part of development is the player commitment to be "as good as I can be". JMO

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kybkh

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The most important lesson to be learned by playing sports is realizing you are more capable than what you believe. If a coach is not able to motivate a player to care enough to push himself to be better and give 110% he is failing at his job.
 

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I am nitpicking a bit, but overall I don't think Boom has underperformed. He came here with the reputation of being a big-play threat and I think he has pretty consistently shown that. It does get lost in the overall ineptitude of the offense.

Otherwise I can't really disagree.
 

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I am nitpicking a bit, but overall I don't think Boom has underperformed. He came here with the reputation of being a big-play threat and I think he has pretty consistently shown that. It does get lost in the overall ineptitude of the offense.

Otherwise I can't really disagree.
That is not nitpicking. I have no earthly idea why the OP included Boom Williams, of all people, probably the best player on the team and one of very few true SEC caliber (and probably NFL caliber) players on the team.
 

kybkh

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I am nitpicking a bit, but overall I don't think Boom has underperformed. He came here with the reputation of being a big-play threat and I think he has pretty consistently shown that. It does get lost in the overall ineptitude of the offense.

Otherwise I can't really disagree.

IMO, Boom has a much higher ceiling than what we have seen so far.
 

Katwatcher

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A good coach will get the respect of the players by treating them all alike Teach them that team work is the key to a good team. Let them know in uncertain terms that you get out of it what you put in.

A good coach motivates the players into getting the most out of them. The most important thing a coach can do is build character in each of his players. Everything else will take care of itself.