What is the highest speed you have driven, and in what

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I knew general Brailsford, got a few awards from him while stationed at the 4th USAFAD from 84-87. Hard nosed general. He inspected our unit one time and was in front of one portly SSG (who I did not like) and in his very loud voice said "Sergeant, you're fat!" It took every bit of restraint I had not go bust out laughing. Gave the SSG 60 days to get back in shape or he was through. He had been pencil whipping his PT scores for a while.
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Good old days. I was at 52nd USAAD from '84-87.
 

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105 on the BG Parkway in a 5-speed 1988 Camry when I was 17. Didn't like it. The violent shaking of the steering wheel told me to slow it down.
 
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Your parents had a base package Beretta , probably not even a quad four with dual overhead cams . But the biggest key factor your not considering because you weren't even there and haven't attempted before is that it wasn't planned and didn't even have a take off . I was already doing 90 when they pulled up and it went from there , the GTZ wasn't great from take off but had plenty of top end power . You try to come off as a car guy but you don't know ish but maybe you can fool everybody else , ok ratchet .
I kind of am car guy. If you didn't notice the quarter time and mph in the previous post from a mustang I raced. That was done under small tire class rules and with a small block and single plate nitrous with no electronic help. I also ran the T-Type under 10 seconds with single turbo and did the motor and suspension work myself.

I built a couple of class specific dirt mod cars and currently pull an International 1066 Tractor (kind of over cars right now). So I can use a ratchet.

Trying to act like a car guy talking "quad 4" pretty much tells it all. The same infamous power plant found in tiny boppers Grand Ams back then. Basically your car was a turd and you didn't know enough to know otherwise.

That said, even at a 90 mph roll you weren't in the game unless the national was still governed.
 

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I kind of am car guy. If you didn't notice the quarter time and mph in the previous post from a mustang I raced. That was done under small tire class rules and with a small block and single plate nitrous with no electronic help. I also ran the T-Type under 10 seconds with single turbo and did the motor and suspension work myself.

I built a couple of class specific dirt mod cars and currently pull an International 1066 Tractor (kind of over cars right now). So I can use a ratchet.

Trying to act like a car guy talking "quad 4" pretty much tells it all. The same infamous power plant found in tiny boppers Grand Ams back then. Basically your car was a turd and you didn't know enough to know otherwise.

That said, even at a 90 mph roll you weren't in the game unless the national was still governed.
Well I guess you can tell your buddy lug nut that you dropped some knowledge when you show up for work at valvoline instant oil change in the morning . I'm not a car guy and never acted like one , I also didn't try to sell the car as some monster to be dealt with . No , that was concocted by you . I simply gave my speed and the circumstances .

Maybe the grand national did have a governor but then if your such a car guy you would have suspected that initially . Yet you continued , tells me your not very good at what you do . Put more thought into it next time to avoid making such errors when pretending to be a master mechanic .
 
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91 Beretta GTZ with a 5 speed has a top speed of 135mph. The Grand Nationals were rev limited to 124mph. Even the GNX.
 
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About 110 in a Mercedes E Class on the Autobahn. Looked in the rear view mirror and saw a car fast approaching. Before I knew it, a specialized Porsche 911 went past us like we were standing still. Guy had to be going 150-160. Scared the crap out of me. Backed off the pedal and went down to 90 and decided that fast lane Autobahn driving wasn't for me.
 
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110 or so in my 67 Plymouth Satellite between "the barns" on route 8 west of Augusta.

Still hit the no passing sign with my Little Kings bottle as I went by ;)
 

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My daughter was buying a new grand am gt and I tookit for a test drive and had it 130 before it started floating.My wife had a grand prix gtp that I had 135.
 

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About 110 in a Mercedes E Class on the Autobahn. Looked in the rear view mirror and saw a car fast approaching. Before I knew it, a specialized Porsche 911 went past us like we were standing still. Guy had to be going 150-160. Scared the crap out of me. Backed off the pedal and went down to 90 and decided that fast lane Autobahn driving wasn't for me.
Yeah, saw a few nasty accidents in my 3 tours in Germany.
 
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Well I guess you can tell your buddy lug nut that you dropped some knowledge when you show up for work at valvoline instant oil change in the morning . I'm not a car guy and never acted like one , I also didn't try to sell the car as some monster to be dealt with . No , that was concocted by you . I simply gave my speed and the circumstances .

Maybe the grand national did have a governor but then if your such a car guy you would have suspected that initially . Yet you continued , tells me your not very good at what you do . Put more thought into it next time to avoid making such errors when pretending to be a master mechanic .
I don't have friends called Lug nut, sorry. I also don't work at an oil change and I'd venture to say people like you are what's answering to people like me. Just a hunch.

I dealt with cars, and racing, as recreation. It is possible to be both interested, and good, with cars and successful at the same time. It also requires money to run the times I mentioned within class rules. More than the oil change pays.

I wasn't initially trying to ingage in a car discussion, especially one involving a guy boasting Beretta exploits. I was essentially calling you a nerd trying to talk cars. A story involving a legend (Buick Grand National) and scrap metal (Beretta).
 

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115 mph on my 85 Honda Magna 700 shaft drive on the 805 in San Diego in 1988. Promptly got off on El Cajon Blvd, stopped at a beer joint, and drank several beers to get rid of the shakes. Was racing a Mercedes Benz from about Telegraph Canyon Road.

120 on the Cumberland Parkway driving a 72' Chevelle in 1973.
 

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I wasn't initially trying to ingage in a car discussion, especially one involving a guy boasting Beretta exploits. I was essentially calling you a nerd trying to talk cars. A story involving a legend (Buick Grand National) and scrap metal (Beretta).

You were the nerd in that exchange. The Beretta would easily outrun the GN in a longer race. The GN would easily win a drag race. You made fun of him saying "quad 4" but that is exactly what the engine was called by the people that made it. You basically called him a liar and now are saying you weren't trying to engage in a car discussion. You lose at internet, pal.
 
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My memory of the Grand Nationals is that they were super quick (which pissed off all the people that paid a bunch of money for Corvettes but were getting smoked at red lights) but lacked much of a top end. And weren't they all black?
 

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I don't have friends called Lug nut, sorry. I also don't work at an oil change and I'd venture to say people like you are what's answering to people like me. Just a hunch.

I dealt with cars, and racing, as recreation. It is possible to be both interested, and good, with cars and successful at the same time. It also requires money to run the times I mentioned within class rules. More than the oil change pays.

I wasn't initially trying to ingage in a car discussion, especially one involving a guy boasting Beretta exploits. I was essentially calling you a nerd trying to talk cars. A story involving a legend (Buick Grand National) and scrap metal (Beretta).
You weren't trying to engage in anything but telling me I was lying about what I posted . Now that we know the top speeds fit my description of events and simultaneously making you out to be a full of **** bumpkin . Classic case of a guy that pretends to be a know it all but you can't post that grand national past 124 mph no matter how hard you try . Next time know what you're talking about and ask the details of a circumstance before facts make ya look stupid .
 
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You were the nerd in that exchange. The Beretta would easily outrun the GN in a longer race. The GN would easily win a drag race. You made fun of him saying "quad 4" but that is exactly what the engine was called by the people that made it. You basically called him a liar and now are saying you weren't trying to engage in a car discussion. You lose at internet, pal.
Even governed the Beretta doesn't win much. He already said he was going 130 when they were side-by-side. The National was governed at 124, so like most it must have been chipped to remove the restriction. If so while his little "quad 4" was screaming and wanting to fly apart at 130 the National was just getting started.

Most people with age knew "quad 4" was what it was called. Most people with testicles wouldn't admit owning one or dripping the term in car talk.

I acknowledged he wasn't in the same game as the Buick. He went all "quad 4" car talk on me, and talking cars is something I'm equipped to do.
 
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You weren't trying to engage in anything but telling me I was lying about what I posted . Now that we know the top speeds fit my description of events and simultaneously making you out to be a full of **** bumpkin . Classic case of a guy that pretends to be a know it all but you can't post that grand national past 124 mph no matter how hard you try . Next time know what you're talking about and ask the details of a circumstance before facts make ya look stupid .
You don't have the ability to make me look stupid, and I honestly just like to argue. Your description of the events is misleading. Even governed if you all hit it at 90 you'd be way gone up to the 124 mph mark and your car would struggle to pull itself to its top out speed, which isn't much.

I have a soft spot in my heart for the turbo Buicks. Lots of memories.

You obviously have a soft spot for the happiness that only under 200 horsepower and pounds of torque can provide.

I shouldn't stoop to this level. One car can be found on Barret Jackson auction blocks and the other can be found at the Dollar General Store (if running) or the scrap yard. You and your buddies that want to defend you can go talk Luminas, Sunbirds and Berettas.
 

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It's not a question of a "chip" mr car guy. Once again you prove that you don't know what you are talking about. In fact, due to your obvious ignorance, I'm disinclined to believe any of your crap about racing. The GN had an automatic transmission.124 was as fast as it could go before it would kick down a gear. The load became too great for the car to stay in it's highest gear. The car doesn't know the difference in wind resistance or a hill and if you push the gas pedal too far, it will downshift.

As you should know, the lower gear will take a higher rpm to maintain the same speed. Therefore, the GN was limited by it's physical rpm limit and not a "governor". A chip would merely allow it to reach that limit sooner, it wouldn't raise the limit.

Now, do you want to come back with your story about the GN having a fully built bottom end and a T56 transmission?
 

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You don't have the ability to make me look stupid, and I honestly just like to argue. Your description of the events is misleading. Even governed if you all hit it at 90 you'd be way gone up to the 124 mph mark and your car would struggle to pull itself to its top out speed, which isn't much.

I have a soft spot in my heart for the turbo Buicks. Lots of memories.

You obviously have a soft spot for the happiness that only under 200 horsepower and pounds of torque can provide.

I shouldn't stoop to this level. One car can be found on Barret Jackson auction blocks and the other can be found at the Dollar General Store (if running) or the scrap yard. You and your buddies that want to defend you can go talk Luminas, Sunbirds and Berettas.
Still doing 124 , post harder .
 

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Yeah, saw a few nasty accidents in my 3 tours in Germany.
Same here. I spent 11 years in country. Autobahn crashes can get real messy in a hurry. Even worse when foggy.

Believe it or not, fatality rates on the Autobahn are roughly 3/5 of US rates (2.7 vs 4.5 per billion km traveled). Primary reasons include better driver education, better road surfaces and stricter passing laws.
 

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"Talking cars is something I'm equipped to do" and drops grand national had turbo to refute my claims , talk about basic knowledge for a car guy .
 
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"Talking cars is something I'm equipped to do" and drops grand national had turbo to refute my claims , talk about basic knowledge for a car guy .
I called them turbo Buicks. That's kind of a slang term for car guys when referring to the T-Types and Grand Nationals. Should have saved it for a different crowd.

I never dropped "had turbo" and your claim is laughable to anyone who has ever spent much time "talking cars".
 

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I called them turbo Buicks. That's kind of a slang term for car guys when referring to the T-Types and Grand Nationals. Should have saved it for a different crowd.

I never dropped "had turbo" and your claim is laughable to anyone who has ever spent much time "talking cars".
I raped your Buick , deal with it .
 

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Not possible.

We'll move on.

I explained to you in simple terms that I thought you could understand why his story makes perfect sense. Did you overlook my post because it was too complicated for you? Or because you knew that you'd been beat, and laid that golden turbo on the ground at Johnny's feet?
 
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I explained to you in simple terms that I thought you could understand why his story makes perfect sense. Did you overlook my post because it was too complicated for you? Or because you knew that you'd been beat, and laid that golden turbo on the ground at Johnny's feet?
You're simple terms are as stupid as his story.

If they kicked from 90 he would have been left standing still up to the 124 mark. There would be no side by side ****.

You aren't familiar with either car and your I out is useless.

I've raced and built several cars and a sub 10 second Buick T-Type was one of them. This was the earlier and mid 90's when the Buicks dominated the street/strip scene. I switched to the Mustangs and Nitrous after. As a car guy, and good car builder/mechanic, I can't believe I'm having an arguement involving a Beretta.

You may have googled something or tried to make sense of it and if you knew anything you'd realize how stupid taking the Beretta side of the arguement is.
 

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I realize how stupid you are for making the race one of your fantasies where they kicked down at 90 and the GN put it to the floor, or that the GTZ wasn't in the proper gear to keep up with an out of tune GN with four people in it. Pretty easy to add fake parameters to prove a point.

What I said is the exact reason the GN is limited to 124. You know nothing about my knowledge of cars because I didn't come here and brag about it. Neither did he. YOU did and obviously can't back it up. If you don't understand the difference in RPM limited, electronically limited, or governed, then you don't know much.

You bought a car and drove it fast. We all have.
 
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I realize how stupid you are for making the race one of your fantasies where they kicked down at 90 and the GN put it to the floor, or that the GTZ wasn't in the proper gear to keep up with an out of tune GN with four people in it. Pretty easy to add fake parameters to prove a point.

What I said is the exact reason the GN is limited to 124. You know nothing about my knowledge of cars because I didn't come here and brag about it. Neither did he. YOU did and obviously can't back it up. If you don't understand the difference in RPM limited, electronically limited, or governed, then you don't know much.

You bought a car and drove it fast. We all have.[/QUOTE

You both are dumb and you don't belong in a car discussion with me.

You're bullet points and parameters you speak of make you sound dumb in my book when I'm familiar with what's being compared. I'm sure a few bought it.
 

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At starting position I know the GN has a clear advantage and that GTZ cannot beat it , I had a friend that owned a GN the same time I owned the GTZ . That's what surprised me when after very slowly pulling away from the GN after it topped out when my speedometer ran past 120 , at the time I didn't know the top speeds of either car but it all makes sense now . After I pulled almost a car length ahead they just dropped out and took the next exit . It happened so starting to race at 90 versus 0 takes away the advantages the GN had , the GTZ had better top speed and was a standard which obviously I manipulated beautifully . Neither had any advantage until top speed was the deciding factor , you could look at paper and pick a winner for any race from a start line and probably be correct but change the start to high speeds and there will be different outcomes because cars have different strengths depending what speed they're traveling . Seems like common sense , taint' .
 

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Well said X. The GN was built to be a stop light monster, not to be a road racer. You would have also outran him in some twisties. Cars like that are a one trick pony.
 
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"stop light monster" is a good way to put it. When the GNs showed up they preyed on everyone at stoplights. They were quicker than everyone else on the road including arrogant assed corvette drivers. Everybody knew to stay away from the black Buick with the bubble top hood. I am not invested enough in this conversation to research any further but there must be some youngsters posting because all of this was well known back in the day. Everybody also knew the GNs did't have any top end. Common knowledge.
 

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I don't know how it would be possible to drive from the East coast to West coast and not go over 100mph at some point out west. Hell I got stopped in New Mexico for doing like 110 and they let me go with a warning.