What is wrong with universal background checks?
- Thread starter bamaEER
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Got easy solution:
Republicans agree with gun reform
Democrats agree to voter registration reform
opcorn:
Another layer of protection. Would certainly flag some nutcases. Plus your crowd has been saying all along that ‘guns don’t kill people, people kill people’. This goes right to the heart of the problem.
and voter picture ID and I can agree on universal background checks.Got easy solution:
Republicans agree with gun reform
Democrats agree to voter registration reform
Talking to NRA supporters is a waste of time. Just win the POTUS and the Senate and do whatever Dems want to do about it.
So you think the problem is guns?
You think ordinary citizens should have 100-round magazines, bump stocks, flash suppressors, etc?
At a macro level, I think it’s fine. It’s the details where the problem lies.
It introduces a layer of bureaucracy into the equation which is basically just a tax and added expense for 99% of the population of gun owners. Essentially engineering a solution to what is a statistical irrelevance. You’re targeting the crazy and that’s basically less than .1%.
It would also stop the ability for a person to sell or trade their firearms with friends or family. Additionally, it limits the ability of someone trying to bequeath them to a relative.
I get your point about someone inheriting a collection from a relative. That's a tougher wrinkle to this. I would argue that the private sales can still go through, they just need to involve someone to run the check. Is it free? Nope. Is it a huge hurdle? Nope. The real question on that piece of the puzzle is enforcement. How do you enforce that new rule? I mean, it would stop something like a craigslist ad, but it would be hard to track if I sold a gun to a friend.
Agreed.
You mean a Democrat feel good measure would have unintended negative consequences and not actually solve a problem to a statistically unsolvable problem?
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Got easy solution:
Republicans agree with gun reform
Democrats agree to voter registration reform
The left would NEVER bite on that, but let's have the right give in on universal background checks, if and only if, all voting follows the REAL ID Act.
The only enforcement option is to severely hammer someone after the fact and frighten people into self enforcing. How well do those help? How often do they (sentences) get reduced?
I don't see it helping.
Unfortunately they don't prosecute many straw purchases now as it is. I know a guy who owned a store, reported several straw purchase attempts. I think only 1 went beyond the basic reporting, and he was told that there would probably be nothing substantial done.
There are plenty of laws on the books that could be enforced, but just aren't.
Like immigration. All that noise about arresting 600-700 illegal food workers. Not a f'n thing done to the owners/management. Nothing to deter them from hiring more illegals.
Would it have stopped some or any? I think every time in recent times that we have had an event, the story is that the shooter obtained the gun(s) legally. I guess it depends on what the background check is checking as to whether or not it would prevent anything.
'Should' have? No....but if law-abiding, American citizens want them, they have a right to have them and I have no concerns with that whatsoever. In fact, I like it.
They have a right to have them? Can you show me where in the Constitution it says we have a right to own bumpstocks, 100-round magazines, flash suppressors, etc? Full autos? Can’t seem to find that in the Constitution either.
The constitution doesn't mention zebra striped idiots either, yet here you are...
No mass shootings in the 1960s? LMAO! Idiots really don't realize they are idiots.
