This is being said "tongue in cheek." Our 7 ft center sat on the bench the whole game - don't know why unless sick or in dog house. Huggins could have played only 4 guys on offense and positioned Routt under the KU basket. Four guys on offense? Yea, could not have played any worse than the five guys did:smiley: Routt not moving, Yea, he probably could have been able to stop enough of the "Slam Dunks" to eke out a win, and there were a ton of them. Seriously, Our deep bench did not help yesterday as the flow of both offense and defense seemed disrupted with all he subbing - except for Routt:frown:, Seems things go better with the starting lineup, especially McCabe. IMO not one of Huggins best games
What kind of Coaching do you call Huggins job vs KU
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of course they can! Lyons should scout the free board for some sports minds. His loss....
Let's see if I understand this.
Huggins take a team with more freshmen and sophomore stars than junior and senior stars into an arena where Kansas wins about 90% of the time, a Kansas team that won 14 straight Big 12 championships and is ranked #3 in the nation, and WVU leads most of the game and has a 10-point lead.
And Huggins is a "bad" coach. It's a puzzlement.
The same Huggins who got his very, very young team to beat #2 Ohio State the game before.
Sometimes I think people don't even read their posts before they click "Send."
I Iove Huggins Heroes. They are a very, very young team, so they are inconsistent but learning. Notice how different players rise to the top in different games? It's a learning curve.
Oscar, a FRESHMAN, had a double double at halftime against the #3 team in the country! Geez, guys, think before you make yourselves look so stupid.
Let's lasso some Cowboys tonight in Stillwater!!!!
Huggins take a team with more freshmen and sophomore stars than junior and senior stars into an arena where Kansas wins about 90% of the time, a Kansas team that won 14 straight Big 12 championships and is ranked #3 in the nation, and WVU leads most of the game and has a 10-point lead.
And Huggins is a "bad" coach. It's a puzzlement.
The same Huggins who got his very, very young team to beat #2 Ohio State the game before.
Sometimes I think people don't even read their posts before they click "Send."
I Iove Huggins Heroes. They are a very, very young team, so they are inconsistent but learning. Notice how different players rise to the top in different games? It's a learning curve.
Oscar, a FRESHMAN, had a double double at halftime against the #3 team in the country! Geez, guys, think before you make yourselves look so stupid.
Let's lasso some Cowboys tonight in Stillwater!!!!
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"Huggins take a team with more freshmen and sophomore stars than junior and senior stars into an arena where Kansas wins about 90% of the time, a Kansas team that won 14 straight national championships and is ranked #3 in the nation, and WVU leads most of the game and has a 10-point lead."
Kansas won 14 straight national titles? Where was I when this happened? It's 14 straight Big 12 regular season titles and that came to an end last year. Also, it is the same program that won those titles, not the same team. I'm sure an esteemed sports writer such as yourself knows the difference between regular season conference titles and national titles as well as the rules within the NCAA preventing 14 year players. WVU did not lead by 10 for most of the game. WVU led for a bit over half the game and had an 8 or more point lead for just a small portion of that. If WVU had led most of the game by double digits and lost, it would actually hurt your argument that coaching didn't botch the game. Yet the great sage sports writer can't see that.
"It's a puzzlement."
You can quote the "King and I." We get it, you are a worldly and cultured man in these the best of times and worst of times. Call me Ishmael whether it is noblier in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune. See? I can do it too.
"Sometimes I think people don't even read their posts before they click 'Send.'"
Pot meet kettle. Or are you sticking by your proof reading with the 14 straight national titles for Kansas comment?
"I Iove Huggins Heroes."
This term is not clever or cute. It's honestly cringe worthy.
"Geez, guys, think before you make yourselves look so stupid."
Must I keep reintroducing the pot to the kettle? 14 straight national titles for Kansas. No one tell Duke, Villanova, UNC, etc...
"Let's lasso some Cowboys tonight in Stillwater!!!!"
Did you seriously pull this kind of crap when writing for your newspapers? The editor must've been constantly palming his or her face if he or she had half a brain. Again, not cute or clever. Just cringey and we are embarrassed for you.
14 straight Big 12 titles. Major gaffe. Huggins Heroes will appear for the rest of the season. My points remain valid. Feel free to put me on Ignore.
Your conclusion is valid. These malcontents acting as though WVU hasn't had it's best decade of basketball in the last 50 years and suggesting a replacement could be found easily that would produce the same results as Huggins is ludicrous. It's just the way you present the argument is disjointed and frequently factually wrong. It's like arguing over who is the best team in any sport. Two people can agree on the team, but the one who uses fundamentals of the game to support their pick do not want to be lumped in with the person that makes the same pick based upon how much they like the uniforms.
What, did you run out of red ink? Tell us again how young this team is.
He's right about the team being young and some of the criticism from posters not taking that into account. However the factual mistakes, the nearly incoherent rambling, and the cringe worthy "clever sayings" in his posts distracts from the point. It's like having an debate and despite wanting to sway the crowd, you don't want a drunken, slack-jawed rube being your most vocal supporter.
EXACTLY. "12-2 but he acts like Dana did."
Nobody and I mean nobody will come to WVU and do the winning that hes done. Get over it pissbabies....
You can look up in the SKY and BAWL all you want, but hes not going anywhere....
Fine by me. Their loss. If they don't want the expertise of a long-time sportswriter then they pay for their ignorance. The rest of us will enjoy discussing WVU sports in an intelligent, friendly manner. So long, goodbye and amen!!! You made my day!
Well after everyone reads this post I'm betting you will be talking to yourself. Too funny.
You don't know that and I don't know that. But I prefer talking WVU sports. I love my alma mater. I love Huggins Heroes. And I hope they can beat Texas Tech on Saturday, which will be a really, really tall order. Have a nice day, sir. And stop beating your wife, kicking the dog and yelling at children for stepping on your lawn!!!! Try to enjoy life. I sure as hell do, at the age of 87. I am SO lucky and know it.
If Huggs has an issue...and he is a HOF level coach...is that somehow along the road his guys get so tough that they forget how to shoot. Happens every year.
Everything in life is a tradeoff. Every defense has flaws. So does every offense. You weight the risk/reward and you choose, whether it's a 1-3-1 zone or a Fortune 500 company's stock. When I decide, I live with my decision and move on. I've been extraordinarily lucky in so many ways. That's why I love my alma mater. It catapulted me into a good career that I loved and a fantastic retirement that I never dreamed I would have as a coal miner's son. I'm 87 and, if I die tomorrow, I'll be the guy in the cemetery with a smile on his face.
Is he a HOF coach? Maybe, but it's debatable. He's certainly won a lot games, but that doesn't in itself mean that he is substantially better than his counterparts. But he's also lost a lot of games. Are all those coaches who beat him the better coach? Maybe. Or do they just have better players and facilities? Maybe that, too.
And maybe Huggins got all those wins in a lesser conference when he would recruit questionable, yet more talented players that his competition refused to admit.
And this crap about Huggins being beyond reproach because won a lot of tons at destinations where he gained a reputation of never graduated a player is so tiring.
I'd say he's a top 50 coach (he certainly has issues with 2nd half adjustments). That's he's won a lot games in the 80s and 90s is irrelevant today. Sports change and coaches adapt. Huggins seems to be severely lagging in the adaptation part.
Vince Lombardi is accepted as one of, or the best NFL coach in history. Plug him into a game this weekend and see how he does. Same with Huggins.
He has also won a lot of games after the 90's. Since he has been at WVU, we have been in the sweet sixteen 5 times and one final four. He has won 12 games this season all ready with the #2 schedule according to the RPI. He made adjustments in Ohio State game that resulted in victory. Not sure what your point is other than trolling.
The point is pretty obvious when you take off the fellating glasses. Huggins is not infallible and is certainly allowed to be criticized as much the 19-22 year olds who are the lightning rods for most on this forum.
Huggins is a D1 and I'm not so I cannot utter a sound of criticism. Got it.
Let's keep it consistent. You've never played P5 basketball so you cannot criticize any player who puts on a WVU jersey. You've likely never refereed anything beyond an under-12 church league game (if that) so you can't criticize any calls because you obviously couldn't do better.
Let's keep it consistent. You've never played P5 basketball so you cannot criticize any player who puts on a WVU jersey. You've likely never refereed anything beyond an under-12 church league game (if that) so you can't criticize any calls because you obviously couldn't do better.
Please show where I criticized a player or a ref. You can not. I posted facts about Huggins like he has taken us to half of our sweet sixteen and final 4 appearances, all after the 80's and 90's. So he accomplished that in 12 or so years that which took the remaining coaches 80 plus years. We are 12-2 this year and have another fine team.
Bob Huggins 863-364 / .703
(has fewer losses than Boehim 946-385 / .711 )
Your a fool if you think he doesn't belong in hall of fame.
Well, of course he does. Coached fewer games (104 less).
Do you think Huggins will lose less than 21 games in his next 104 games ? That would put the 2 of them about even.
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I like the your better so than you're all yall. Perhaps even yuins. Does this'n means ur'e muthed.
Doesn't change the fact that Bob Huggins will be a hall of fame coach.
You really are stupid. Boeheim got every one of those wins at Syracuse, playing against the best competition in the country.
5 Final Fours and 2 Runner-ups
19 Sweet Sixteens
7 Elite Eights
10 Big East titles
5 Big East tournament titles
1 National Championship
Huggins got 567 of his 862 wins in defunct conferences and against schools you've never heard of. He might be a HOF coach, but stop acting like his resume is any more special than DOZENS of other active coaches.
And if we're being honest here, a lot of Huggins' fame was gained from not the most desirable of ways. Just admit that Huggins was given A LOT of attention for his antics and notoriety for terrible graduation rates. You know it's true.
Funny part is I wouldn't bother with this if you kiss-asses wouldn't piss and moan every time someone second-guesses your messiah.