What Will the Final 2017 Recruiting Class Look Like?

denniden

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So when do we expect some of these guys to verbally commit? I know most have not even taken visits. I'm just so impatient when it comes to this. OFC
Most likely a couple of the guys verbal in the fall. MGood bet the rest go to fall.. This class is going to have a lot of guys wait until the end. So if you are lacking patience, this may not be the year to follow recruiting. ; )
 

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We probably don't get Trent now because of the O'Connell commitment; the backcourt is clearly too crowded. And if we don't get Trent, we also don't get Carter. At least that's what DSouthr expressed on THR. Dude is like a level-17 expert on recruiting.
 
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We probably don't get Trent now because of the O'Connell commitment; the backcourt is clearly too crowded. And if we don't get Trent, we also don't get Carter. At least that's what DSouthr expressed on THR. Dude is like a level-17 expert on recruiting.


You are probably right but I'm waiting for what gary-7 has to say. OFC
 

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So when do we expect some of these guys to verbally commit? I know most have not even taken visits. I'm just so impatient when it comes to this. OFC

In time. I think initially Duke was hoping one or two guys would pop prior to the Olympics but that didn't happen. Just remember, it wasn't until November when Tyus and Jahlil made their decisions official almost three years ago, and Justise came after them.

I'm impatient too, but we just have to wait it out, unfortunately.
 

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A scholarship offer isn't coming. He likes Duke, but the feeling is apparently not mutual.

Bummer. So even after Jermaine Samuels committed to Nova, Duke still isn't interested in offering Tucker? I really like him as a prospect.
 

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Bummer. So even after Jermaine Samuels committed to Nova, Duke still isn't interested in offering Tucker? I really like him as a prospect.


He was just not all that impressive when playing in front of the staff. I saw him at the Peach Jam and while he was a good player, he certainly didn't blow me away. David McClure is the immediate comparison that comes to mind. I think the staff knows that Tucker would jump on a Duke offer if given one, and they prefer to wait it out with Knox.
 

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Just heard on ESPNU that K has an in-home with Carter on Sunday. Do your thing Coach.
 

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Just heard on ESPNU that K has an in-home with Carter on Sunday. Do your thing Coach.


That is correct. The staff will be in home with Carter on Sunday and Knox on Monday. O'Connell will be in this weekend for his OV and Matt Coleman is next weekend. Carter and Trent are expected to take their OV's at CTC on Oct. 22nd. Busy and crucial times for the staff.
 
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We probably don't get Trent now because of the O'Connell commitment; the backcourt is clearly too crowded. And if we don't get Trent, we also don't get Carter. At least that's what DSouthr expressed on THR. Dude is like a level-17 expert on recruiting.

DSouthr keeps coming up with these crazy scenarios on how, in some crazy ***, roundabout way, Duke whiffs (his word) on Knox, Carter, Trent, Bamba and Green. At least he is praying like hell that somehow happens. Lol.
 

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I believe by the Nov signing period Duke will have a 4 player class...

By the late signing period, my gutt tells me a 6 player class but my head is conflicted bc I think a 7 player class.
 

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I believe by the Nov signing period Duke will have a 4 player class...

By the late signing period, my gutt tells me a 6 player class but my head is conflicted bc I think a 7 player class.
What is the first day of the fall signing period)
 

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I believe by the Nov signing period Duke will have a 4 player class...

By the late signing period, my gutt tells me a 6 player class but my head is conflicted bc I think a 7 player class.

I don't see this scenario.
 

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^ maybe K should call off Nate and Nolan from the 2017 recruiting trail then

Not saying they shouldn't try. Haha. I just don't think we're getting the 7 we put time into.

And if Jeff and Jon are talking to guys, I'm a lot more confident than Nate and Nolan. They have different roles on the trail.
 

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I believe by the Nov signing period Duke will have a 4 player class...

By the late signing period, my gutt tells me a 6 player class but my head is conflicted bc I think a 7 player class.
Since you probably lose 6-8 players from the 2016-17 roster, 6 new guys looks like a minimum. Moreover, 4-5 of those guys are likely starters, so the haul has to include a lot of top players.

In case you are wondering, I'm looking at these guys leaving. Maybe not all of them, but could be all of them. Am I missing anyone?

Giles
Tatum
Bolden
Jackson
Allen
Jefferson
Jones
Pagliuca
 

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Since you probably lose 6-8 players from the 2016-17 roster, 6 new guys looks like a minimum. Moreover, 4-5 of those guys are likely starters, so the haul has to include a lot of top players.

In case you are wondering, I'm looking at these guys leaving. Maybe not all of them, but could be all of them. Am I missing anyone?

Giles
Tatum
Bolden
Jackson
Allen
Jefferson
Jones
Pagliuca

That very well could be a possibility, and most of those guys are basically guarantees to be gone. I still don't think Jackson is a one-and-done, though if he were that would likely mean he played really well and so did the team, so most could live with that trade-off. I don't think the staff envisions him as one-and-done either, because the PGs they are recruiting aren't necessarily "come in and completely have the keys" guys. They are all outside of or at the very edge of the top 25 of their class. Guys like Green and Coleman are terrific players, but probably not ready immediately to help carry a team that lost all of the guys you just mentioned. I think Frank is around for year 2, and is a focal point at that time.
 

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That very well could be a possibility, and most of those guys are basically guarantees to be gone. I still don't think Jackson is a one-and-done, though if he were that would likely mean he played really well and so did the team, so most could live with that trade-off. I don't think the staff envisions him as one-and-done either, because the PGs they are recruiting aren't necessarily "come in and completely have the keys" guys. They are all outside of or at the very edge of the top 25 of their class. Guys like Green and Coleman are terrific players, but probably not ready immediately to help carry a team that lost all of the guys you just mentioned. I think Frank is around for year 2, and is a focal point at that time.
That would be my guess, too. But I felt I should include him.
 

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I would guess 4-5 players in this class......6 possibly.........7 seriously doubt it.
 

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It seems likely they get two "ready to start" guys in Carter and Trent, and potentially a third in Knox, though people seem to not be as confident there as they used to be. The rest of the starting line-up will be filled with the returners in Jackson, Kennard, and Jeter. I think a starting line-up of Jackson, Kennard, Trent, Carter, and Jeter could go toe-to-toe with anyone.

Edit - And that is without the possibility of guys like Knox and Bamba, who are still in the mix.
 

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Since you probably lose 6-8 players from the 2016-17 roster, 6 new guys looks like a minimum. Moreover, 4-5 of those guys are likely starters, so the haul has to include a lot of top players.

In case you are wondering, I'm looking at these guys leaving. Maybe not all of them, but could be all of them. Am I missing anyone?

Giles
Tatum
Bolden
Jackson
Allen
Jefferson
Jones
Pagliuca



And don't forget Kennard and Jeter transferring mid season because they aren't getting 25 minutes a game. Coach K better get on the trail and check out some of those hof coach roy williams recruits. ;) OFC
 

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Since you probably lose 6-8 players from the 2016-17 roster, 6 new guys looks like a minimum. Moreover, 4-5 of those guys are likely starters, so the haul has to include a lot of top players.

In case you are wondering, I'm looking at these guys leaving. Maybe not all of them, but could be all of them. Am I missing anyone?

Giles
Tatum
Bolden
Jackson
Allen
Jefferson
Jones
Pagliuca

Obviously, Jefferson and Jones are no-brainer's as their eligibility will be used up. It's also safe to assume that both Giles and Tatum leave after one season. In addition, it's believed that Grayson will also likely move on with a degree in tow. Pagliuca will too be gone, but he doesn't really fit into the mix as he's just a walk-on who won't play, regardless.

So really, the question becomes about Bolden, Jackson, and maybe, to a slight extent, Grayson. The latter guy, Grayson, could return. I don't expect it, but I wouldn't be completely shocked if he did.

I'd be surprised if Bolden is back for 2017-18. Two reasons, 1) he's going to be a high commodity because of his size and athleticism, and 2) he might not see many weaknesses exposed because of the players around him. That lends me to think he goes.

Frank, on the other hand, is the wildcard. He might have first-round promises, but I think his best bet to become a collegiate star is during his sophomore season. The upcoming year may be a feeling out process, and garnering more than 20mpg on average could be tough to come by.

We'll see what happens. I'm going to enjoy the season and hope the best comes from it. If Duke is fortunate to reach their ultimate goal then I think everyone here is willing to trade for it.
 

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As a Duke fan and a person who works in the field of college recruiting, I never feel good about any player until they commit. I call it the HB Syndrome


That's me also Jake. harrison barnes taught me a valuable lesson. OFC
 

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How many Harrison Barnes situations have there been since coach K got to Duke? I think it is time to let that one go already.
 
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I think the 'Harrison Barnes' recruitment was more of an anomaly than anything. While I understand trepidation and apprehension I think it's also important not to let that one single incident/recruitment shed light on every single one going forward.

I agree with denniden in saying it's time to let it go. Since that day in November of '09 many more good things --- and I mean many more --- have happened at Duke. We've won two titles and in the process we've sort of had our way with the Heels. Until UNC made the Final Four and a run at the national championship last April, that was really their first 'win' over Duke since Barnes committed. I'll take that almost seven-year stretch every single time.