What's going on in Bardstown

80 Proof

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So the daughter definitely had ties to Houck via babysitting, but has anyone other than me heard one of them was also an informant? Or is that just small town rumor? I'm sure we would never really know, but something the KSP and FBI would surely be privy to.

I do agree with Booker that Nelson/bardstown isn't really the typical small town by numbers/size, but the people there still have that typical small town mindset. Believe me on that one.

I've heard that Crystal Rogers was a potential informant and right before she was supposed to go on record she disappeared.
 

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WHO RUN BARDSTOWN???


Were any empty Coke cans, Werther's wrappers or heaters found at the scene?

Were any of the Houks involved with a certain fraternity?

What was really buried down in that mysterious backyard hole?
 

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With the latest info I am not sure if it was a murder for hire or if Singleton just disposed of the body.
 

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Well he is arrested to hopefully get him to turn and uncover everything.

I'd say that's the first domino needing to fall.
 

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Guess we will have to see if Singleton has no fear of rolling over on the Houck's and telling the whole story. Or if he is scared enough to be sent to the graybar hotel by keeping his lips sealed to keep himself & his family alive.
 

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II noticed reading the stories that a black impala model year 2006-2013 was involved in the teacher and daughter murder. And And rogers' maroon 2007 impala was found abandoned on BGP.

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Has anyone else watched the police interviews with brooks and nick? It's hard to come away from watching those thinking they had something to do with it.
 

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I don't know the first thing about this case other than what you guys have posted. All of it is brand new and shocking stuff since I first started reading this thread last night. And the sound on my PC is piss poor. All I've got to say is the active tension running through Mr. Houks' shoulders', chest and neck during the first 4 minutes of that interview is amazing, fantastic. If that could somehow be bottled down to liquid form and fed to our blocking corps. then 4-4 or 5-3 records in the SEC next year become a real possibility. I'm not lying.
 

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I agree. I don't know anything at all about any of these people and have not studied the specifics involved so I am not weighing in with inside knowledge or even educated knowledge on the situation. I'm just saying from altitude none of it makes sense (in reference to the Bardstown police officer that was killed) as a crime committed by thugs or gangs. This from the beginning has looked like an inside job because of the selection of where the cop was killed and why that decision would be made to pick a highway exit ramp over his driveway or even the parking lot at work. Big red flags right off that bat on why that decision would be made. Confidence in stopping a car on a highway exit ramp. Confidence in ambushing an armed trained man. That is military/cop experience that leads you to make that decision, not thug/gang experience. They would have killed him in his driveway.

Answering the essential question of why they had the confidence to kill him where they did tells you a lot about who I am sure the FBI profile would suggest did this. I will be very interested to know what that FBI profile says when it finally comes out because I am supremely confident it is going to suggest prior military and current/former cop. Positive.
 
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I agree. I don't know anything at all about any of these people and have not studied the specifics involved so I am not weighing in with inside knowledge or even educated knowledge on the situation. I'm just saying from altitude none of it makes sense (in reference to the Bardstown police officer that was killed) as a crime committed by thugs or gangs. This from the beginning has looked like an inside job because of the selection of where the cop was killed and why that decision would be made to pick a highway exit ramp over his driveway or even the parking lot at work. Big red flags right off that bat on why that decision would be made. Confidence in stopping a car on a highway exit ramp. Confidence in ambushing an armed trained man. That is military/cop experience that leads you to make that decision, not thug/gang experience. They would have killed him in his driveway.

Answering the essential question of why they had the confidence to kill him where they did tells you a lot about who I am sure the FBI profile would suggest did this. I will be very interested to know what that FBI profile says when it finally comes out because I am supremely confident it is going to suggest prior military and current/former cop. Positive.
So you're suggesting that officer Ellis being killed on the exit ramp suggests that it's NOT thugs or a gang. That's absurd. Who are you covering for?
 

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There is about an 8 miles stretch with no exits and several overpasses so at the time of night it would have been easy to track him and make sure no one else was on the parkway near the exit.
 

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There is about an 8 miles stretch with no exits and several overpasses so at the time of night it would have been easy to track him and make sure no one else was on the parkway near the exit.
Yes. You need to track the officer down the highway because you have to put the stuff in the road to stop him and only him to begin with. You have to know when he leaves work. You have to know no other cop cars are in the area. You have to be confident that you can ambush an armed officer from across an open space as I would imagine there is no nearby cover to hide behind on an open exit ramp. Why would they decide to take all those chances?

If they simply have some idea of what time he gets off work then all they have to do it set up in a car near his house and wait. Then walk by and get him the minute he exits the car. No coordination or planning or the chance that somebody else turns down the driveway instead of him. You are doing something you are comfortable with. All you do it lay in wait.

Who is comfortable in stopping somebody on the highway? Who is comfortable at setting up an ambush? Who is actually trained at performing these things and it would even occur to them to consider an exit ramp? Thugs don't do that. Find any other example across the country in thugs behaving in this way? Cops/Military think that way. It would be perfectly natural for them to plan something like this.
 

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I would imagine there is no nearby cover to hide behind on an open exit ramp.

That exit ramp is cut out of the side of a hill. Easy to conceal yourself on top from anyone on the ramp. Also, where he was shot is not visible from the Snyder or the road the off ramp leads to.
 

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What are the chances the person responsible is a UK fan and is reading this post? Bet his has the ishts on a consistence basis. If not directly responsible, inside knowledge and knows the killer(s.?).

Def an inside job. Needs to be a Dateline or 48hrs real quick.
 

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I saw that episode of Undercover Boss. Buffalo Wings and Rings. If anyone knows that jerk that was the kitchen manager please tell him he is a giant douche.
 
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Wife said she heard he was shot in the back. There was a juvenile present, may have been a grandson. State police said they are investigating and won't say anything yet.
 

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Anyone care to inform someone who has apparently been living n a closet for the last couple of years what the heck is going on here? It is very fascinating
 

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Yea but why kill this dude now? His daughter has been gone for over a year, and nothing is breaking on the case.

If this wasn't an accident you are just bringing extra heat on yourself considering you were damn close to getting away with everything.
 

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That's correct grandson didn't have weapon. Tommy was waiting in field while grandson went back to truck. When grandson was at truck, Tommy got shot. He called his wife, told her he had been shot and to call the ky state police, not local police.