When do you draw the line!
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Long time lurker & poster. I have some friends and co workers on here that I don’t speak on politics about but it’s getting out of hand. I used to escape the media propaganda and negativity through sports but now it’s more political than competitive. Friends & family that have served the nation for many years that fought for the flag is being disrespected by a bunch of privileged men & boys that get free education & millions of dollars to bounce a ball.
sorry call it what you want but the flag and servicemen are bigger than basketball.
I still try to support but don’t know how much longer.
sorry call it what you want but the flag and servicemen are bigger than basketball.
I still try to support but don’t know how much longer.
So you joined just to tell us you might not watch?
I mean I personally wouldn’t kneel, but they have freedom of speech and I’m not going to burn my uk gear and show so much outrage
No sir. Just getting some opinions from you guys. Do you care ? When or if everything goes back to normal if you are at the game will you sit for the anthem ? If not you will be labeled against the movement even if not true. Thanks
Some on here & people I know personally don’t care much if Rupp arenas name was to be changed & if players and staff don’t participate for the national anthem as long as UK is winning. That’s where you lost me sorry.
Lots of kids in 3rd world countries would love to have those shirts. Their vacated UL championship shirts are wearing thin at this point.
Players have their right to kneel, and fans have their right to be be upset or not watch. I think it’s kind of silly to burn your UK gear and post it all online though.
I’ll gladly take anyone’s expensive UK gear if they want to get rid of it.
I’ll gladly take anyone’s expensive UK gear if they want to get rid of it.
Seems odd to be mad at college kids using their platform to express their views, but these same people have no issues with a Sheriff using his platform to express his.
"Hey, Alexa, what is the meaning of hypocrisy?"
"Hey, Alexa, what is the meaning of hypocrisy?"
I would think a sheriff would have bigger worries like trying to find criminals than wasting time acting childish like this.
As a veteran, I’m very partial to the flag and what it means to me. I was also raised to respect it and other things as well.
I’m so disappointed in our society-there is no middle ground on anything. I believe I see both sides of everything, the good and the bad and I make every decision based on what’s right and wrong according to my belief system.
I don’t make Democratic or Republican decisions and although I side more with one group, I can easily switch to another side depending on the situation. Last weeks capital raid was terrible, embarrassing in my opinion no matter your political affiliation. Same with the BLM protests all summer and the billions in damage that taxpayers are now responsible for. Every last person that can be identified for either of these events should be locked up permanently IMO. The far left and right are crippling our country.
I’m so disappointed in our society-there is no middle ground on anything. I believe I see both sides of everything, the good and the bad and I make every decision based on what’s right and wrong according to my belief system.
I don’t make Democratic or Republican decisions and although I side more with one group, I can easily switch to another side depending on the situation. Last weeks capital raid was terrible, embarrassing in my opinion no matter your political affiliation. Same with the BLM protests all summer and the billions in damage that taxpayers are now responsible for. Every last person that can be identified for either of these events should be locked up permanently IMO. The far left and right are crippling our country.
BUT but but if a player or a staff member was to refuse to kneel because it’s against his or her beliefs THEY WILL BE DISMISSED/FIRED & the media would crush them. Sad truth you know it. The “right” doesn’t go both ways.
Seems odd considering if you actually watch sports many players and coaches are choosing not to participate and are still playing and coaching.
Not "hypocrisy", just personal EXPRESSION. Law enforcement was the target of the team kneeling, so blowback was expected.
This was going to DIVIDE the BBN, Cal knew it and STILL allowed it.
What does kneeling accomplish besides division. Look forward not backwards.
The internet mob is going to go after this guy. They will go after his family, his job, his whole life. Then the Herald Leader will print a story about how awful he is and how he should not be sheriff and they will publish it right above the article they published about how brave the basketball team was for using "their voice". Thats the hypocrisy. Why is one "voice" allowed but not its counterpoint.
I somewhat understand what you’re saying, but I’m not sure I agree fully. I’ve seen some NFL and NBA players who didn’t kneel, and explained why and still gave their support to their teammates. They didn’t get fired for it.
There are plenty of people upset with the sheriff, so I don't see the hypocrisy. People will side with what they agree with naturally. I personally will not financially support UK in any way as long as they take the stance they are taking. I'm not trying to force them to stop, I just won't contribute. I guarantee people won't vote for that sheriff because of his stance, and that's perfectly fine as well.
Free speech is a wonderful thing. The problem is people like you trying to stop it. Complaining about someone's speech isn't the same as suppressing it. The left is actively suppressing.
It is very hypocritical. As is caring about the flag and not to constitution. Any person that fought more for a flag and a song than a constitution needs to seriously evaluate their priorities. Police also were not the target of the team kneeling. Social injustice was the target. Simple-minded people have just been unable to differentiate that.
Divide occurs weather the team kneels or not. They shouldn't be subjected to silence or conformity to appease the sensitivity of the fanbases feelings. You're watching them, they aren't watching you.
HIs right just like it was their right, but Matt sometimes doesn't believe in KY fans rights.
How about the NBA player who didn't support BLM, then got severely injured during his first game. Pundits were loving it and openly saying he deserved it.
So he deserved a potential career ending injury because he didn't support BLM? Doesn't sound very supportive to me...
I'm shocked this has been allowed to stay up on here.
How long before the Sheriff and Jailer are fired? The political ruling class (Democrats and Republicans) traffic in division as a way to deflect from their corruption. They have been widely successful - case in point.
I will say this, kneeling may not be the best kind of protest, as a UK player and especially Cal they have a public platform in which to express their feeling on these subjects. Kneeling is the easy too basically say nothing but upset a huge portion of the fan base and Matt Jones doesn't understand this.
That is factually incorrect. Please research why the kneeling began.
The only hypocrit here is you. People are exercising their constitutional rights by expressing their displeasure with kneeling. You getting so upset for people giving their opinion in response to another's opinion is very hypocritical.
I never understood how not standing during the anthem is disrespectful to America/the flag/the military. Americans, to a large degree, have an idolatrous relationship with our patriotic imagery. We treat symbols of the nation like sacred religious icons, and failure to join in performative ritual as sacrilege.
"Social injustice" from law enforcement is what the "Protest" is all about. Kneeling during the National Anthem is a show of DISRESPECT no matter how you slice it.
The players believe in a FALSE narrative that BLM initiated for POLITICAL reasons and these kids have been DUPED into following. BLM was built on the lie.
You must not understand hypocrisy. Some people being upset or at 1 isn't quite how it works. Being biased to one side without realizing your side is doing the same exact thing and justifying it would be hypocrisy. I have no issue with the sheriff be upset, my issue is he is upset with the team for using their platform to take their stance, when he turns around and does the same thing. Pot meet kettle.
Don't contribute, that it your god given right. But it would be hypocritical to think one of the was more right or wrong than the other when they essentially did the same damn thing.
How am I trying to stop free speech? Telling someone their speech is hypocritical is stopping it in you eyes? That is quite the logical leap if so.
Kaepernick initially sat during the anthem, but spoke to a veteran who told him sitting felt disrespectful, and suggested that kneeling instead would show proper respect while still allowing him to make his point. Kneeling has never, in all of history, been disrespectful to anything. People are just demanding that everyone participate in performative patriotism. It's 100% a form of political correctness and virtue signaling.
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JUST LIKE TRUMPS MEDIA PLATFORMS & POSTS
Did not mean to stir anything up honestly. This a just a big issue that we can’t really speak about & sadly yes they have brought politics into sports.
JUST LIKE TRUMPS MEDIA PLATFORMS & POSTS
Did not mean to stir anything up honestly. This a just a big issue that we can’t really speak about & sadly yes they have brought politics into sports.
BLM is an admittedly Marxist organization with the objective of dismantling capitalism and the country. That can not be disputed. Race is just their vehicle to get there. The sad thing is that so many are okay with those goals.
Interesting that "it's not about the flag", but then why did Kaeperstink object to Nike's Betsy Ross flag tennis shoes in 2019?
What is factually incorrect about it? Please post your evidence to the contrary.
How am I being hypocritical. Please explain….
I have no issue with either, I am just expressing the hypocrisy in one, which clearly struck a cord with you. I have no reason to be upset, just pointing out the reality. And what is hypocritical about having an opinion? Are you saying the opinion is hypocritical, and if so, how?
He can be upset with whatever he likes and it's not hypocritical. Your side, the left, is absolutely suppressing free speech.
This thread will be deleted & I’ll be banned soon
JUST LIKE TRUMPS MEDIA PLATFORMS & POSTS
Did not mean to stir anything up honestly. This a just a big issue that we can’t really speak about & sadly yes they have brought politics into sports.
Politics was brought into sports when "patriotic" and pro-military propaganda was shoehorned into games for decades.
In the same context as I believe players should be worried about the game and not kneeling, laurel county might as well be the meth capital of the world and these two should be more worried about that then what the players do.
No, and anyone who celebrates someone getting injured for not liking a cause is an idiot. I don’t really remember this, what player was it?