Plenty of very high profile athletes choose not to kneel and are still playing on their team. Do all of the SF 49's kneel next to Colin? The answer is no. Some do, some don't. Are you the same person who joined yesterday to start the same thread that got deleted? Did you post this just to try and start a political war on Rafters or does it bother you that much that a group of 18 year old chose to take a knee during our national anthem?
When do you draw the line!
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Plenty of very high profile athletes choose not to kneel and are still playing on their team. Do all of the SF 49's kneel next to Colin? The answer is no. Some do, some don't. Are you the same person who joined yesterday to start the same thread that got deleted? Did you post this just to try and start a political war on Rafters or does it bother you that much that a group of 18 year old chose to take a knee during our national anthem?
The far right and left are also the loudest. The whole country has gotten out of control. And thank you for your service
I had looked forward to the Fla game for some time. As soon as I learned about the kneeling, I turned the game off. Their choice...my choice. I also choose to forgo my annual contribution to the university for the forseeable future. Their choice....my choice.
If he chooses not to support the team fine but I grew up in the area and we have so many young kids with nothing it would having been such a big deal to a young kid if he would have given them the UK gear instead of destroying it.
So you started this account today, under the dubious nickname "Patriot" to stir up the crap.
You strike me as a fraud.
Here's a clue: I know plenty of real patriots, who have sacrificed much for America. One thing they never do: Call themselves "The Patriot" and act like they have some special virtue. And another thing: They all sacrificed so people, like the Kentucky basketball team, could speak their minds.
You strike me as a fraud.
Here's a clue: I know plenty of real patriots, who have sacrificed much for America. One thing they never do: Call themselves "The Patriot" and act like they have some special virtue. And another thing: They all sacrificed so people, like the Kentucky basketball team, could speak their minds.
Said it for years, disrespecting the country isn't a good way to get your message across. You have plenty of other options these days to do it on your time.
I fought for that flag, and had buddies that didn't come home for that flag. Honor it and be a prim donna on your own time.
I fought for that flag, and had buddies that didn't come home for that flag. Honor it and be a prim donna on your own time.
Sure he can! However, using his platform to complain about UK player using their platform is the definition of hypocrisy.
If you are here speaking freely, how then are we limiting it?
Jonathan Isaac I believe
If anyone was to refuse to kneel from any major coach or player all it takes is a tweet from lebron & others will follow & the “cancel the career trend will come in effect” lol
So If you and I meet on the street and you slap me and I slap you back, I am not supposed to be upset with you? That is not how it works. The team done their protest (which I am fine with) and the sheriff felt disrespected (not my right to tell him how he feels) and protested back.
I don't personally care for either method of protest, but freedom is that both sides have that right.
Just because someone supports your right to protest does not mean they have to like it. That is what is currently lost in this country.
This dude has been on here under about ten different accounts and banned every time. Ignore him.
Seems you are the one that doesn't see the fact that an ACTION causes a REACTION.
I'm saying the ONLY "hypocrisy" is thinking that ONE SIDE is perpetrating the so called "hypocrisy", which in turn is ACTUAL "hypocrisy"!!!!
WOW!!! Now I'm tired.
The armed forces does not have a monopoly on patriotism and the flag does not solely represent the armed forces. It represents the country of the Unite States of America. A country whose ideals proclaim all men are created equal and we all deserve equal justice under the law.
No one is kneeling to disrespect the military or the flag. They want the nation the flag represents to live up to its founding principles.
No one is kneeling to disrespect the military or the flag. They want the nation the flag represents to live up to its founding principles.
What's disheartening to me is the timing. We are so divided as a country. Yes the players have the right to kneel if they so choose but the bigger thing to do would be to find a better non devisee way to express themselves. It's just more piling on for a nation that is in turmoil.
This guy lived next to the church I went to growing up. One day it snowed and my friend and I did some donuts in the parking lot. He came out of his house and said he’d shoot us if we didn’t stop. So there’s that.
Simply not true. They are kneeling because they believe the flag represents a country that is unjust and wrong. There is a reason the American flag became an unofficial Trump flag, and that is because the left despises that flag and the freedom it represents. Part of living under that flag is agreeing to live in a place where people can express opinions you disagree with, and there is a segment in this country that simply can't handle that anymore.
I really don't get the big deal...People care more about a non-violent, almost completely silent protest by an 18 year old kid than the ransacking of our nations capital where a police office was murdered. Unreal....
Dead soldiers return home in a coffin draped with the American flag. Tell me what is gained by disrespecting those who have given their lives? When you protest that flag, you are protesting that dead soldier.
If he wants to burn his stuff, burn it sheriff. I don't give a rats behind what any of you do. that's the problem with liberals, they stick their nose where it doesn't belong all in the name of knowing better and being smarter than others.
If the teams wants to kneel on a very controversial matter & issue to many, well guess what, you reap what you sow...….
If the teams wants to kneel on a very controversial matter & issue to many, well guess what, you reap what you sow...….
"Hands up don't shoot" was the "false narrative" BLM was built on.
Statistics also show that African Americans commit more crimes on other African Americans as a percentage than police officers killing African Americans. FACT
Why aren't athletes addressing the OVERWHELMING crime in the inner cities?
I'm left leaning and I love the flag and I love this country. No one on the left hates the flag. All I know is I saw a bunch of TRUMP and confederate flags at the Capitol on Wednesday, while Biden's victory speech was filled with American flags.
What the left disagrees with is BLIND devotion to the flag. People have rightfully critiqued some of what the nation is built on right now and are being accused of being anti-American. That's not hating the flag or hating the country. You can dislike the President and dislike many things about the country you live in and still love the country. We should never stop working to improve things, and being told to shut up and fall in line behind a cult of personality is not the way to do it.
I respect your view point but please don’t suggest that the violence is in any way, shape or form balanced between the left and right. The left has been terrorizing cities, people and property for months. Downtown DC businesses have been boarded up for months - and it’s not due to fear of violence from the right. Democrats have been justifying, downplaying and even encouraging said violence the whole time. And now, after one act of stupidity/violence by some moronic Trump supporters the Democrats are aghast. If Trump had been re-elected, the rioting would have commenced forthwith. Think Cal and the Cats would have knelt upon that inevitability? Fat chance. I’ll-informed hypocrites.
SSGT Nate Boyer who was also a green beret. He was also a long snapper for the Seahawks. Nate told Kap that he felt just sitting there was disrespectful because it showed no purpose and seemed like he was underestimating the power of what the flag represents. He said kneeling would be better because kneeling historically is meant to show reverence while he'd also be able to send a message and stand out.
Two sided mouth talking is here again. When Kaepernick started this, oh the outrage, but the UK basketball team does it, look at all the excuses. Either way it's total disrespect to our flag, country, and to those who protect and serve regardless of what they call it...plain and simple
The hypocrisy is on both sides of this; like it or not. What is lost is the ability to have a conversation anymore.
It is when two sides disagree that a good common ground can be found. I can point to statements by both Dems and Republicans who say crap that is just wrong.
I could list the achievements of any President and there would be some who find fault in something.
I do not like anyone taking a knee during the signing of the national anthem. This is what I was taught from my youngest days and still believe it to this day. At first I would get furious when I saw this but now I turn my head away. I have no control over anyone else but I do have control over how I respond. Getting mad at something that I have no control over is in the past.
I find it comical when someone making 10 million a year tries to explain how someone making $40-50 thousand a year ought to live and behave.
I am in a business that finds me in all walks of our society. I deal with the police a lot. I would not be able to do my job if not for these police doing theirs. Many who take a knee or those who yell from their pulpit have not spent one minute in some of the neighborhoods I go into but yet they know all about what is going on.
I honestly feel Coach Cal fits into this category. Yes, he goes in to recruit and that is about it. In and out.
These kids who go to college and many say they come from poor backgrounds and such is why they have to leave so they can support their family. Maybe, but does anyone have any idea what it cost to play AAU ball and all the travel they do?
I know, sponsors pay this and that but it still takes mom and dad to supply money. Why all of a sudden is every kid Coach Cal recruits in so much need?
I never in my life thought I would see my country in such a place it is in now. It is not one sided. Like Trump or hate Trump, there is one thing he brought to everyone attention but he greatly underestimated it and that is Washington is one big swamp.
It is when two sides disagree that a good common ground can be found. I can point to statements by both Dems and Republicans who say crap that is just wrong.
I could list the achievements of any President and there would be some who find fault in something.
I do not like anyone taking a knee during the signing of the national anthem. This is what I was taught from my youngest days and still believe it to this day. At first I would get furious when I saw this but now I turn my head away. I have no control over anyone else but I do have control over how I respond. Getting mad at something that I have no control over is in the past.
I find it comical when someone making 10 million a year tries to explain how someone making $40-50 thousand a year ought to live and behave.
I am in a business that finds me in all walks of our society. I deal with the police a lot. I would not be able to do my job if not for these police doing theirs. Many who take a knee or those who yell from their pulpit have not spent one minute in some of the neighborhoods I go into but yet they know all about what is going on.
I honestly feel Coach Cal fits into this category. Yes, he goes in to recruit and that is about it. In and out.
These kids who go to college and many say they come from poor backgrounds and such is why they have to leave so they can support their family. Maybe, but does anyone have any idea what it cost to play AAU ball and all the travel they do?
I know, sponsors pay this and that but it still takes mom and dad to supply money. Why all of a sudden is every kid Coach Cal recruits in so much need?
I never in my life thought I would see my country in such a place it is in now. It is not one sided. Like Trump or hate Trump, there is one thing he brought to everyone attention but he greatly underestimated it and that is Washington is one big swamp.
Social injustice goes back much further than Ferguson. How many unarmed, innocent black people have been murdered by police since Ferguson? If you can't sympathize with them and at least acknowledge that their feelings and the reason they feel that way is real, then I don't know what to tell you.
It has long seemed evident to me that we have too many performative patriots, and not enough real conviction and tolerance for what this country was founded on.
What I mean by a performative patriot is someone who always has to oversell his supposed love of country and his reverence for the Stars and Stripes – especially when he has an audience. He especially has to make sure others see his indignation at those things and people which don’t express his same (not greater, as he’s not going to let anyone out-patriot him) deep fervor he broadcasts. Such a figure will inevitably attempt to market these counterfeit emotions for his own benefit or glorification.
But if patriotism has any positive connotation, it surely entails putting the promises and ideals of the Constitution over any symbol – and the freedom to point out when our country is failing to live up to those promises and ideals, and to peacefully protest in what you think is the most effective manner for drawing attention to those perceived wrongs (although your chosen methods may prove to be counter-productive) is what is truly special about our democracy. By that standard, the performative patriot is among the least patriotic of all.
What I mean by a performative patriot is someone who always has to oversell his supposed love of country and his reverence for the Stars and Stripes – especially when he has an audience. He especially has to make sure others see his indignation at those things and people which don’t express his same (not greater, as he’s not going to let anyone out-patriot him) deep fervor he broadcasts. Such a figure will inevitably attempt to market these counterfeit emotions for his own benefit or glorification.
But if patriotism has any positive connotation, it surely entails putting the promises and ideals of the Constitution over any symbol – and the freedom to point out when our country is failing to live up to those promises and ideals, and to peacefully protest in what you think is the most effective manner for drawing attention to those perceived wrongs (although your chosen methods may prove to be counter-productive) is what is truly special about our democracy. By that standard, the performative patriot is among the least patriotic of all.
Hmmm, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that what standing for the national anthem, hat off, and hand over heart has been all these hundreds of years, patriotism?