When do you draw the line!

ryanbruner

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Two sided mouth talking is here again. When Kaepernick started this, oh the outrage, but the UK basketball team does it, look at all the excuses. Either way it's total disrespect to our flag, country, and to those who protect and serve regardless of what they call it...plain and simple
There's nothing disrespectful about kneeling. Google.
 
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Hmmm, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that what standing for the national anthem, hat off, and hand over heart has been all these hundreds of years, patriotism?

My point is that DEMANDING that people participate in that patriotic ritual is offensive to the very liberty our country was founded on, and shows the disturbing degree to which many Americans have an idolatrous religious devotion to patriotic ritual and imagery.
 

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rolling my eyes....
You can roll your eyes but its the situation. At no point has kneeling ever been defined as disrespectful until a group of overly sensitive people decided to hitch their wagon on being upset about it. Common sense.
 
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Social injustice goes back much further than Ferguson. How many unarmed, innocent black people have been murdered by police since Ferguson? If you can't sympathize with them and at least acknowledge that their feelings and the reason they feel that way is real, then I don't know what to tell you.
And EVERY one of those officers were either arrested, convicted or stripped of their jobs and retirement and doxed.

Also, in most of these incidents, the person being arrested did NOT COMPLY with the officers and resisted arrest.

So show me where there is "social injustice".
 
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And EVERY one of those officers were either arrested, convicted, stripped of their jobs and retirement and doxed.

Also, in most of these incidents, the person being arrested did NOT COMPLY with the officers and resisted arrest.

So show me where there is "social injustice".
The fact that it continued to happen.
 

55wildcat

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My point is that DEMANDING that people participate in that patriotic ritual is offensive to the very liberty our country was founded on, and shows the disturbing degree to which many Americans have an idolatrous religious devotion to patriotic ritual and imagery.

My generation was raised it not being demanded but respectful. Demanding is trying to get people of my generation to except kneeling during our national anthem is ok and respectful...It is not
 

55wildcat

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You can roll your eyes but its the situation. At no point has kneeling ever been defined as disrespectful until a group of overly sensitive people decided to hitch their wagon on being upset about it. Common sense.

sorry, but again rolling my eyes...
 

ryanbruner

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My generation was raised it not being demanded but respectful. Demanding is trying to get people of my generation to except kneeling during our national anthem is ok and respectful...It is not
No one is demanding you to feel a certain way. Its just clear that anyone who thinks like this doesn't truly understand what they're saying. Sure its not anyone's job to educate you but at least you could never say no one told you any differently. As someone who is in the military I understand that the only people in this country who are required to stand at attention for the flag are those in the military. Somewhere along the line the civilian population adopted this requirement as a custom. Educate yourself brother. Much love.
 

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And EVERY one of those officers were either arrested, convicted or stripped of their jobs and retirement and doxed.

Also, in most of these incidents, the person being arrested did NOT COMPLY with the officers and resisted arrest.

So show me where there is "social injustice".

You can't say that, it's common sense but not in the form where it is favorable to their agenda..
 
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And EVERY one of those officers were either arrested, convicted or stripped of their jobs and retirement and doxed.

Also, in most of these incidents, the person being arrested did NOT COMPLY with the officers and resisted arrest.

So show me where there is "social injustice".

Well, there was the one guy in MN who was begging for his life while onlookers pleaded with police to get off of him. There was Breonna Taylor, where police murdered her after a botched search warrant. I can continue to go on, but doing so is falling upon deaf ears. You chose a long time ago to see your side of it and don't care to even consider another view. Losing your job is not equivalent to losing your life. You and I both know that the black person in America is treated differently than the white person everywhere they go. Not just by police.
 
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The fact that it continued to happen.
EVERY instance of a police officer shooting an African American is FRONT AND CENTER on EVERY media outlet in the country now. So how is that "social injustice".

Police officers are held ACCOUNTABLE and SCRUTINIZED now more than EVER before. Actually to the point in some cities, crime has EXPLODED in the same areas that need policing the MOST.

"Defunding the police" has done more harm to the areas that have the MOST crime. Another FACT.

If these "Athletes" would JOIN TOGETHER with police departments to help RID these areas of the CRIMINALS causing the problems, it could END the "social injustice" of these CRIMINALS destroying these communities.
 

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No one is demanding you to feel a certain way. Its just clear that anyone who thinks like this doesn't truly understand what they're saying. Sure its not anyone's job to educate you but at least you could never say no one told you any differently. As someone who is in the military I understand that the only people in this country who are required to stand at attention for the flag are those in the military. Somewhere along the line the civilian population adopted this requirement as a custom. Educate yourself brother. Much love.


Hmmm, yes we are.....all I'm going to say...
 

ryanbruner

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EVERY instance of a police officer shooting an African American is FRONT AND CENTER on EVERY media outlet in the country now. So how is that "social injustice".

Police officers are held ACCOUNTABLE and SCRUTINIZED now more than EVER before. Actually to the point in some cities, crime has EXPLODED in the same areas that need policing the MOST.

"Defunding the police" has done more harm to the areas that have the MOST crime. Another FACT.

If these "Athletes" would JOIN TOGETHER with police departments to help RID these areas of the CRIMINALS causing the problems, it could END the "social injustice" of these CRIMINALS destroying these communities.
Its front and center yet still continues to happen and at abnormal rate. There are men and women dying who arent apart of these communities you're talking about. Thats a completely different conversation.
 
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Well, there was the one guy in MN who was begging for his life while onlookers pleaded with police to get off of him. There was Breonna Taylor, where police murdered her after a botched search warrant. I can continue to go on, but doing so is falling upon deaf ears. You chose a long time ago to see your side of it and don't care to even consider another view. Losing your job is not equivalent to losing your life. You and I both know that the black person in America is treated differently than the white person everywhere they go. Not just by police. I don't think that firing a police officer for wrongly killing someone is justice.
Man in MN was a child molester high on Fentynal and resisted arrest, but shouldn't have been murdered so that officer is IN JAIL going to trial and will be convicted of a crime.

Breonna Taylor's boyfriend FIRED on police officers instead of just letting them into their apartment because they were afraid of her former drug dealing boyfriend and thought the cops knocking on their door were people associated with her former boyfriend and not actually cops. Sad situation all around.

Criminals are "treated differently" no matter what color.
 
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I really don't get the big deal...People care more about a non-violent, almost completely silent protest by an 18 year old kid than the ransacking of our nations capital where a police office was murdered. Unreal....

True and there were a lot on here who didn't care about cops who were being shot by BLM rioters this summer while sitting in their cars either.
 

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I'm completely fine with you feeling the way you do. You have every right to feel that way and I have every right to tell you the facts of the situation.

As you see them, I as well as many many people do not see it that way. Using the words "facts" indicate that your correct in what you say and I'm not...Kinda demanding is it not?
 

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As you see them, I as well as many many people do not see it that way. Using the words "facts" indicate that your correct in what you say and I'm not...Kinda demanding is it not?
Nothing demanding about that. Your delusion is your own. If you said a red car is yellow I wouldn't demand that you call it a red car. I'd just let you know you're color blind.
 

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Man in MN was a child molester high on Fentynal and resisted arrest, but shouldn't have been murdered so that officer is IN JAIL going to trial and will be convicted of a crime.

Breonna Taylor's boyfriend FIRED on police officers instead of just letting them into their apartment because they were afraid of he former drug dealing boyfriend and thought the cops knocking on their door were people associated with her former boyfriend and not actually cops. Sad situation all around.

Criminals are "treated differently" no matter what color.

George Floyd was a child molester? I knew he had a conviction over a decade ago for aggravated robbery in TX, but I thought it was well known he had moved to MN to turn his life around and was actively involved in ministry. I cannot find anything on him being a child molester

People of color are treated differently. It isn't hard to see and is everywhere.
 
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George Floyd was a child molester? I knew he had a conviction over a decade ago for aggravated robbery in TX, but I thought it was well known he had moved to MN to turn his life around and was actively involved in ministry. I cannot find anything on him being a child molester

People of color are treated differently. It isn't hard to see and is everywhere.
lmao
Nice troll
 
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Man in MN was a child molester high on Fentynal and resisted arrest, but shouldn't have been murdered so that officer is IN JAIL going to trial and will be convicted of a crime.

Breonna Taylor's boyfriend FIRED on police officers instead of just letting them into their apartment because they were afraid of her former drug dealing boyfriend and thought the cops knocking on their door were people associated with her former boyfriend and not actually cops. Sad situation all around.

Criminals are "treated differently" no matter what color.

I have never in my life been afraid of the police, I never have to worry about them kicking my door in, I never worry about getting shot if pulled over. I've never been arrested for anything. Why, because I comply with the law, I don't break the law, I do not transport money for drug dealers, get fired for stealing drugs from a job I worked, never been high on drugs or molested kids..Still puzzles me how people can continue throughout their lives doing the wrong things against the law, but when it catches up to them ( because of their choices) everybody else is wrong....
 

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lmao
Nice troll
George Floyd was a child molester? I knew he had a conviction over a decade ago for aggravated robbery in TX, but I thought it was well known he had moved to MN to turn his life around and was actively involved in ministry. I cannot find anything on him being a child molester

People of color are treated differently. It isn't hard to see and is everywhere.
I believe he is talking about Jacob Blake who's wife accused him of raping her after she was pregnant. The charge was thrown out. Neither man has a charge related to that. Its one of those things where one person says something and it turns into a completely different story. A game of telephone.
 
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True and there were a lot on here who didn't care about cops who were being shot by BLM rioters this summer while sitting in their cars either.

Or the Capital Police Officer dragged face first down the steps of the Capital and beaten with American flags...You know, the flag everyone is upset about our players disrespecting...

I do not agree with looting, rioting, burning buildings down, etc. I think those people are opportunists taking advantage of a horrible situation. I am sure there were people at the Capital who truly wanted to peacefully protest their disagreement of the election, but like the BLM, they were there and it is often hard to tell in the middle of thousands of people who is doing what.

As to the police were shot during BLM protests, I highly doubt it was by the people who actually care about our country and the people in it and were there to try to make it better.
 
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As I said before, I don’t care what if these guys pork each other before the game while wearing rainbows and listening to country music.

just win baby. Nobody will say anything if you just win.
 
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I believe he is talking about Jacob Blake who's wife accused him of raping her after she was pregnant. The charge was thrown out. Neither man has a charge related to that. Its one of those things where one person says something and it turns into a completely different story. A game of telephone.
So he made a stupid post, then you try to cover for him. Got it!
 
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So he made a stupid post, then you try to cover for him. Got it!

I didn't make a stupid post, there was a miscommunication between me and the other poster. I was talking about someone in my original post and the other person referenced someone I wasn't talking about. My post was stupid because it doesn't agree with your views?
 

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I didn't make a stupid post, there was a miscommunication between me and the other poster. I was talking about someone in my original post and the other person referenced someone I wasn't talking about. My post was stupid because it doesn't agree with your views?
Your post was factually incorrect. It had nothing to do with my views.
Google his name, then come back to apologize. Thanks in advance ☺
 

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lmao
Nice troll

I am not sure if you understand what a troll is or not. I can see by your posting history that you struggle to put together more than a sentence or two, so don't bother replying. I don't want you to work those few brain cells you have left too hard. Judging by your profile picture, you are okay with making fun of people who are different than you are, so we can just agree that you are part of the problem and leave it at that.
 

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Your post was factually incorrect. It had nothing to do with my views.
Google his name, then come back to apologize. Thanks in advance ☺

What post of mine was factually incorrect. I mentioned a black person murdered in MN by police and described the murder of one person. It is a shame that the poster who chose to respond was talking about a completely different person who was also murdered by the police. I guess I should have used his name in my original post so that he knew who I was talking about.
 

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What post of mine was factually incorrect. I mentioned a black person murdered in MN by police. It is a shame that the poster who responded had more than one to choose from. I guess I should have used his name in my original post so that he knew who I was talking about. You obviously didn't read the dialogue.