When was the last preseason poll that had WVU in top 25?
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2018- Holgorsen’s final year, WVU was AP #17 going into the season. #20 coaches. #13 first CFP ranking.
—#20 in the final AP, #22 coaches final poll that year, #16 final CFP ranking. Also was the last time WVU was ranked in football, pretty certain.
—#20 in the final AP, #22 coaches final poll that year, #16 final CFP ranking. Also was the last time WVU was ranked in football, pretty certain.
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He didn’t. He left numerous starters from a team that was 4 pts from playing in a BIG 12 CCG. Then Brown came in and chased off over 20 players— and the departures are still exiting the floodgates after three lousy seasons.
How many of those 20 players that you say he ran off were actually good players? Fans don't want the guy who is 4 pts away from playing for a championship they want the guy who is playing for the championship.
Where was the QB? The OL? The WR? You live in a fantasy world. The 20 so called players only 4 were starters. Holgs had no idea how to recruit talent out of high schools. It's why the depth was poor and he had no chance to win the Big 12.
2018 got their *** beat by ISU by 16 (30-14) against OSU he blew a 17 point lead and lost 45-41 then couldn't stop a cold against OU and lost 59-56. Lost the bowl game lost Bowl game to bad SU team 30-14. Before you whine about no players you just said a ton were left on the team.
You're a dumbass.
i don’t say he ran them off, he did run them off. As to how many were good? Several were starters and the ones that weren’t had playing time on a team that had averaged over 8 wins a season for the previous 4 ( better than WVUs historical avg) and were in the running until the final game- 3 pt loss to Oklahoma who went to the playoff— for a BIG 12 CCG. They also played on the #16 ranked team in the country. To pretend they weren’t any good to make Brown seem better is ignorant.
Where was the QB? The OL? The WR? You live in a fantasy world. The 20 so called players only 4 were starters. Holgs had no idea how to recruit talent out of high schools. It's why the depth was poor and he had no chance to win the Big 12.
2018 got their *** beat by ISU by 16 (30-14) against OSU he blew a 17 point lead and lost 45-41 then couldn't stop a cold against OU and lost 59-56. Lost the bowl game lost Bowl game to bad SU team 30-14. Before you whine about no players you just said a ton were left on the team.
You're a dumbass.
And Brown has failed 100% more than Holgorsen did, yet dumbasses like troll Allen try to sell that he is the next coming and that Holgorsen who had the second most wins in WVU history and never averaged below WVUs historical # of wins was terrible.
Something is very wrong with that picture and it ain’t me……
Something is very wrong with that picture and it ain’t me……
Several WVU coaches have had a better winning percentage (which is a better indicator of success than # of wins) than Holgorson. Also, you always mention that he has the second most wins of any WVU coach, but always fail to mention he also has the 2nd most losses.
Real wins are what matters, but certainly Either way you look at it Holgorsen was eons ahead of the current coach no matter how you try to slice it.
It’s also funny how people like you mention DHs losses, but always leave out the coach who had the MOST number of losses for WVU- Don Nehlen. Was he a terrible coach?
You also leave out that DH came in early, won more games immediately than the previous coach, won the conference, won 10 games which is fairly rare for WVU- and crushed Clemson in historic fashion. You leave out that he was actually left with a bare cupboard Of under recruiting for years. You leave out that WVU switched conferences and that Holgorsen faced the toughest schedules WVU had ever faced, yet won more than every coach save Nehlen.
He no longer coaches here. So why give a ****? If you're that horny for him go to Houston.
You don't even have the balls to quote me because you know I own your ***.
Holgorsen 61 -41 (4-8 in year 2 of Big 12 after having the best offense at WVU only managed 7-6 first season of Big 12 was 0-3 vs Syracuse.)
Show me where I claimed Brown was the next coming?
Let me know if Brown get's 8 years then you can do a fair comparison.
Until then shut the **** up.
Dana Holgorsen averaged 7 wins per season overall as per WVUs historical average. The last five years it was 8 wins per year average. Last 4 above 8. He came in a year early when the previous coach had to be removed for wrongdoing damaging the program. His very first year he did better than the previous coach. Won 10 games. Won the Big East. Coached WVU an entire season into a major bowl game and won that bowl game in historical fashion. Then he took a deficient roster because of underrecruiting into a tough new league mostly very far away— beat ranked teams and continued winning at a pace to keep WVU no worse than its historical average Against the toughest schedules WVU had faced to date. This is why Dana Holgorsen EARNED the years he did.
Neal Brown has not earned the three years he has been at WVU let alone more seasons. He is winning 5 games a year with one being an fcs and one Kansas ( and in both cases barely at that) , faring poorly against P5 competition and finishing in the bottom of the league every year. He hasn’t produced any rankings for WVU since he has been at WVU or won any significant games.
There is no comparison. Bill Stewart performed better and he was a severe let down from RR.
The nonsensical spins pretending Brown has been good for WVU football are laughable on their face. Hopefully Harrell is the coach he has been proclaimed to be and he can get the points needed to win the games Brown could not, or else it’s time to move on. Just as I said before, WVU cannot continue its losing ways under Brown if it wants to remain relevant in college football— the realignment people attacked me for telling them was coming is now well underway and everyone won’t survive it from the P5.
Neal Brown has not earned the three years he has been at WVU let alone more seasons. He is winning 5 games a year with one being an fcs and one Kansas ( and in both cases barely at that) , faring poorly against P5 competition and finishing in the bottom of the league every year. He hasn’t produced any rankings for WVU since he has been at WVU or won any significant games.
There is no comparison. Bill Stewart performed better and he was a severe let down from RR.
The nonsensical spins pretending Brown has been good for WVU football are laughable on their face. Hopefully Harrell is the coach he has been proclaimed to be and he can get the points needed to win the games Brown could not, or else it’s time to move on. Just as I said before, WVU cannot continue its losing ways under Brown if it wants to remain relevant in college football— the realignment people attacked me for telling them was coming is now well underway and everyone won’t survive it from the P5.
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Was Beamer good for Virginia Tech? (first 6 years 24-40-2)
Brown will get at least 5 years. You can then begin bitching about the next coach.
Holgorsen resigned from his West Virginia job on January 1, 2019, to accept the head-coaching position at Houston.
Only times WVU was relevant was 1921-1924, 1953-1955, 1969-1972, 1980-1989, 1993, 2005-2011, WVU is due for it's relevant years once again.
Question is which seasons in this decade do they do it?
Big 12 soon will no longer be considered P5. It will be P3 (PAC, Big 12, ACC) then P2 (SEC, Big 10).