When will the lies about Planned Parenthood stop?

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Do you think Schumer lied on purpose or does he simply not know?

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer falsely claimed Tuesday that “millions of women” go to Planned Parenthood for mammograms.

Schumer claimed that, because House Republicans’ proposed replacement for Obamacare will cut funding to abortion providers, “millions of women” who turn to Planned Parenthood for mammograms will suffer.

There’s just one problem with Schumer’s claim: Planned Parenthood does not provide mammograms.
 

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Do you think Schumer lied on purpose or does he simply not know?

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer falsely claimed Tuesday that “millions of women” go to Planned Parenthood for mammograms.

Schumer claimed that, because House Republicans’ proposed replacement for Obamacare will cut funding to abortion providers, “millions of women” who turn to Planned Parenthood for mammograms will suffer.

There’s just one problem with Schumer’s claim: Planned Parenthood does not provide mammograms.
Depends on the planned parenthood. Many will give referrals for women to get them. It's not like you can't look this stuff up too, btw. As far as numbers of women who have gotten them, I didn't find that statistic.
 

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Depends on the planned parenthood. Many will give referrals for women to get them. It's not like you can't look this stuff up too, btw. As far as numbers of women who have gotten them, I didn't find that statistic.

The point is that Schumer and many Dems claim PP provides mammograms. That is patently false. They do so to increase support for PP and the media never corrects the falsehood. That is one huge megaphone.

A referral, as you know, is not nearly the same as conducting mammograms.
 

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The point is that Schumer and many Dems claim PP provides mammograms. That is patently false. They do so to increase support for PP and the media never corrects the falsehood. That is one huge megaphone.

A referral, as you know, is not nearly the same as conducting mammograms.
It's is if they pay for all or part of it. They also organize mammogram events where people get free or reduced cost screening. They do a lot of the same things with abortion, not providing the procedure but providing a referral to some place for a woman to get an abortion. I bet you see that as them providing an abortion.
 

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It's is if they pay for all or part of it. They also organize mammogram events where people get free or reduced cost screening. They do a lot of the same things with abortion, not providing the procedure but providing a referral to some place for a woman to get an abortion. I bet you see that as them providing an abortion.

I am not sure about your confusion. They do not provide mammograms,. They make referrals. The Democrats and the media continue to lie that they provide mammograms. It is called fake news. This is very simple.

And I can find nothing that says they pay for mammograms. They do help with low income transportation and they try to help the poor find federal assistance.
 

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I am not sure about your confusion. They do not provide mammograms,. They make referrals. The Democrats and the media continue to lie that they provide mammograms. It is called fake news. This is very simple.
The vast majority of clinics don't directly provide abortions either. You still claim that they provide abortions despite the fact that a large number of those are referrals.
 

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The point is that Schumer and many Dems claim PP provides mammograms. That is patently false.

WHAT: Planned Parenthood Arizona is hosting a free mobile mammography clinic and community fair, supported by a grant from the Phoenix Affiliate of Susan G. Komen for the Cure. Mammography has proven to be the single most beneficial tool in detecting early and treatable cancer. The goal of screening exams, such as mammograms, is to find cancers early before it has a chance to grow and treatment works best. - See more at: https://www.plannedparenthood.org/p...45.2056651489.1488986129#sthash.Duleu4kS.dpuf
 

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WHAT: Planned Parenthood Arizona is hosting a free mobile mammography clinic and community fair, supported by a grant from the Phoenix Affiliate of Susan G. Komen for the Cure. Mammography has proven to be the single most beneficial tool in detecting early and treatable cancer. The goal of screening exams, such as mammograms, is to find cancers early before it has a chance to grow and treatment works best. - See more at: https://www.plannedparenthood.org/p...45.2056651489.1488986129#sthash.Duleu4kS.dpuf

Planned Parenthood does not provide mammograms,. End of the sentence and of story. They do not have the equipment. They make referrals.
 

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WHAT: Planned Parenthood Arizona is hosting a free mobile mammography clinic and community fair, supported by a grant from the Phoenix Affiliate of Susan G. Komen for the Cure. Mammography has proven to be the single most beneficial tool in detecting early and treatable cancer. The goal of screening exams, such as mammograms, is to find cancers early before it has a chance to grow and treatment works best. - See more at: https://www.plannedparenthood.org/p...45.2056651489.1488986129#sthash.Duleu4kS.dpuf
Planned Parenthood’s annual report shows it gave 487,029 breast exam services for women in 2013. This is a clinical breast exam, checking for changes or lumps in women’s breasts. If the doctor finds something abnormal or worth checking out, the patient is referred for a mammogram, which requires X-rays given at a licensed radiology facility. Planned Parenthood does administer Pap tests and HPV tests, both of which screen for cervical cancer.

Richards said during the hearing that Planned Parenthood clinics do not have mammogram machines. The Federal Drug Administration’s list, updated weekly, of certified mammography facilities does not list any Planned Parenthood clinics. Some Planned Parenthood affiliates host free mammography mobile vans for low-income and uninsured women.

Despite the ongoing emphasis on Planned Parenthood’s mammogram referrals, this service does not reflect the core clients of the organization — certainly not clients in the reproductive age or have the highest rate of first-time abortions. Mammograms are recommended once a year for women 40 to 49, and every other year for women 50 to 74 years. Referrals are less commonly made for women under 40.

In 2013, about 7 percent of Planned Parenthood clients were women over 40 years old. This figure has remained steady over the past few years, according to the organization. So, when people talk about Planned Parenthood clients who need mammography referrals the most, they are referring to a small percentage of total patients.

Further, less than 3 percent of the breast exams offered at Planned Parenthood resulted in mammography referrals. Out of 487,029 breast exams in 2013, about 14,000 resulted in a client referral for mammography and other specialized providers, according to Planned Parenthood.

Proponents argue that defunding Planned Parenthood would mean women would lose “access” — the key word — to mammograms. The argument is that pulling federal funding — the majority of which is through Medicaid reimbursements for low-income women — means fewer women would use Planned Parenthood for family planning or reproductive care. As a result, fewer women would get free or low-cost breast exams, which could lead to mammography referrals.

On the other side, opponents argue federally qualified health centers can absorb what Planned Parenthood does – a point that is still in question (we explored this in another fact check) and that money should be directed to centers that actually do mammograms. A recent study in the Journal of Women’s Health found that about two-third of these centers in 2012 offered mammography. However, the breast cancer screening rates at these centers were lower than the national average, and offering screening was most effective in urban or white counties.

Maloney, other Democratic lawmakers and Richards say that women have “access” to mammograms through Planned Parenthood. As we noted in 2012, we recommend using terminology that clearly show Planned Parenthood does referrals, rather than actual mammograms. “Access” is still a slippery word as it can be misconstrued, but it is more accurate than “provides.”

Maloney said in a statement: “Anyone who has ever had a routine well woman visit understands that after a breast exam, a doctor may refer a woman to a radiologist for a mammogram. In her testimony, Cecile Richards made it clear that is exactly what Planned Parenthood does, and that’s precisely what I was referring to. Attempts to split hairs on this issue ignores the more important point: many women would not have access to mammograms without Planned Parenthood. Many Planned Parenthood clinics hosts visits by mobile-mammogram vans, and help women find grants to pay for mammograms so that they can afford these services.”

The Pinocchio Test
The myth that Planned Parenthood actually offers mammogram X-rays to patients has been long debunked, and needs to stop being repeated. Planned Parenthood does not administer mammograms, but it keeps being perpetuated by the group’s supporters, including celebrities whose claims have a wide reach.

When Democratic lawmakers or other supporters assert that Planned Parenthood “provides” mammograms, this is highly misleading language because it could be interpreted to mean that the group directly administers the X-rays. The group does not “provide” mammograms. Rather, the situation is similar to other clinics where patients are referred to a licensed facility that can provide biopsies, X-rays or other specialized services. It is slightly more accurate to say that women have “access” to mammograms via Planned Parenthood, though it’s still slippery language.

We uphold the rating we gave to the president in 2012, and award Three Pinocchios to Planned Parenthood supporters’ continued use of misleading language to suggest that it directly administers mammograms. In fact, supporters should drop this talking point, given that less than 3 percent of Planned Parenthood breast exams result in a referral for a mammogram and other specialized services.

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Planned Parenthood does not provide mammograms,. End of the sentence and of story. They do not have the equipment. They make referrals.

Just because you emphatically repeat it doesn't make it true. I just took about two minutes and found one example to show you wrong. I'm sure there are dozens more examples.

Your problem is that if you want something to be true to match your narrative, facts be damned.

You were wrong, as usual.
 

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Just because you emphatically repeat it doesn't make it true. I just took about two minutes and found one example to show you wrong. I'm sure there are dozens more examples.

Your problem is that if you want something to be true to match your narrative, facts be damned.

You were wrong, as usual.

Read the above post if you can comprehend it. It absolutely proves my point. Planned Parenthood does not have a
mammogram machines nor do they provide mammograms.
 

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Planned Parenthood is the largest provider of abortions in the country. If you want I can link you to many, many articles stating that fact.

They provide over 300,000 abortions per year.

http://www.heritage.org/health-care...anned-parenthood-affiliates-abortion-services

By the way, you may want to read this from congressional testimony by Cecile Richards. It seems Planned Parenthood derives a significant portion of her non-government money from providing abortions.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/ijr.co...ue-abortion-percent-total-federal-lummis/amp/
 

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I cited an event where they brought in a mobile unit. You are wrong.

Read the post from Michigan. The head of Planned Parenthood admits they provide zero mammograms. They may be part of sponsoring a fair where others provide the mammogram but Planned Parenthood does not.
 

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Read the post from Michigan. The head of Planned Parenthood admits they provide zero mammograms. They may be part of sponsoring a fair where others provide the mammogram but Planned Parenthood does not.
Do they use their fund get to help pay for those services?
 

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WHAT: Planned Parenthood Arizona is hosting a free mobile mammography clinic and community fair, supported by a grant from the Phoenix Affiliate of Susan G. Komen for the Cure. Mammography has proven to be the single most beneficial tool in detecting early and treatable cancer. The goal of screening exams, such as mammograms, is to find cancers early before it has a chance to grow and treatment works best. - See more at: https://www.plannedparenthood.org/p...45.2056651489.1488986129#sthash.Duleu4kS.dpuf

Of course countryroads89 is absolutely correct! Planned Parenthood doesn't exist to provide Abortions, what are we talking about?

They provide health services for Women, only a small portion of those services is to provide Abortion services. They don't do Abortions. that's a "fake news" charge.

 

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Do they use their fund get to help pay for those services?

From everything I have read, they do not. The services they do provide are transportation to low income people as well as assistant getting federal monies.
 
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I cited an event where they brought in a mobile unit. You are wrong.

countrtyroads89 Trump has offered to restore all of Planned Parenthood's funding if they would agree to stop providing Abortion services.

Why do you suppose they have turned him down on that offer?
 
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countrtyroads89 Trump has offered to restore all of Planned Parenthood's funding if they would agree to stop providing Abortion services.

Why do you suppose they have turned him down on that offer?

Because it is legal and has been since a Supreme Court Case in 1972.
 

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Do you think Schumer lied on purpose or does he simply not know?

Definitely lied on purpose, probably doesn't even know. Or he knows they don't provide mammograms, and lied anyway.
 

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Definitely lied on purpose, probably doesn't even know. Or he knows they don't provide mammograms, and lied anyway.

He knows, he lied purposefully. They want all the women in the country to believe they provide mammograms because it increases support for Planned Parenthood. And the media plays right along with them. That is why the media is so very corrupt. Fake news.
 

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Because it is legal and has been since a Supreme Court Case in 1972.

That's true countryroads89 you are 100% correct, but you and supporters of Planned Parenthood say they primarily provide Women's reproductive Health services correct?

OK, so if that's the primary function of Planned Parenthood, and you want to preserve Women's health care services (which is what supporters argue is their real intent behind maintaining PP funding) why not just drop the Abortion part of what they do to maintain their overall funding since the Abortion services are such a small portion of their overall mission?

Trump's willing to fund everything else they do, and I thought you said they do other things in far greater variety and details than just a few Abortions occasionally?

Is Planned Parenthood lying countryroads89?
 

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Because it is legal and has been since a Supreme Court Case in 1972.

It is legal but Planned Parenthood does not have to provide them if they want Federal money, right? Maybe, they could even buy some mammogram machine's.
 
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Q: How much of Planned Parenthood’s services are dedicated to abortions? Does the federal government fund those procedures?

A: Abortions represent 3 percent of total services provided by Planned Parenthood, and roughly 10 percent of its clients received an abortion. The group does receive federal funding, but the money cannot be used for abortions by law.

FULL ANSWER

We received several questions on this topic during the recent budget debate in Congress, after Arizona Sen. Jon Kyl claimed this month on the Senate floor that "well over 90 percent of what Planned Parenthood does" is provide abortion services. That figure was wildly incorrect. Planned Parenthood says only 3 percent of its total services in 2009 were abortions. The other 97 percent of services were for contraception, treatment and tests for sexually transmitted diseases, cancer screenings, and other women’s health services.

Here’s a chart from a March 2011 fact sheet, which reported that the group performed about 11.4 million total services.



Kyl’s far-off claim was mocked by comedians Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert, and Kyl’s office later walked back the statement, telling CNN that "[h]is remark was not intended to be a factual statement but rather to illustrate that Planned Parenthood, an organization that receives millions in taxpayer dollars, does subsidize abortions." That statement, too, prompted ribbing by Stewart and Colbert. But the comedic clips apparently did not make it to the inboxes of many of our readers, who sent us questions about whether or not Planned Parenthood does little more than provide abortions, and whether or not taxpayer money goes to pay for them.

Planned Parenthood’s chart shows that abortions made up 3 percent of its total services. Another way to measure the group’s abortion services, however, is to divide the total number of abortions by the number of clients. For example, Planned Parenthood said that it “provided nearly 11.4 million medical services for 3 million people” in 2009. Its 2011 fact sheet says it performed 332,278 abortion procedures in 2009. That would mean that roughly one out of every 10 clients received an abortion.

Taxpayer Funding

Planned Parenthood’s 2008-2009 annual report states that it received $363.2 million in "Government Grants and Contracts." (See page 29.) That’s about one-third of its total revenues for the fiscal year ending June 30, 2009.

However, not all of that money is from the federal government. Planned Parenthood’s government funding comes from two sources: the Title X Family Planning Program and Medicaid. About $70 million is Title X funding, Planned Parenthood spokesman Tait Sye told us. The rest — about $293 million — is Medicaid funding, which includes both federal and state money.

But Planned Parenthood cannot use the money it receives from the federal government for abortions anyway. According to the Department of Health and Human Service’s website, "by law, Title X funds may not be used in programs where abortion is a method of family planning." Medicaid funding is restricted by the Hyde Amendment to only abortion cases involving rape, incest or endangerment to the life of the mother. Some states use their own funds under Medicaid to go beyond that. Seventeen states and, until recently, the District of Columbia pay for "medically necessary" abortions, according to the Guttmacher Institute. The federal budget deal now bans Washington, D.C., from using its funds to pay for abortions.

— Lori Robertson and Michael Morse

Sources
Planned Parenthood. Annual Report 2008-2009.

Planned Parenthood. Planned Parenthood Services. Fact Sheet. Mar 2011.

"CNN Newsroom." Transcript. CNN. 8 Apr 2011.

Guttmacher Institute. State Funding of Abortion Under Medicaid. Policy Brief. 1 Apr 2011.

DeBonis, Mike. "D.C. abortion funding: the facts." The Washington Post. 11 Apr 2011.

http://www.factcheck.org/2011/04/planned-parenthood/
 

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That's true countryroads89 you are 100% correct, but you and supporters of Planned Parenthood say they primarily provide Women's reproductive Health services correct?

OK, so if that's the primary function of Planned Parenthood, and you want to preserve Women's health care services (which is what supporters argue is their real intent behind maintaining PP funding) why not just drop the Abortion part of what they do to maintain their overall funding since the Abortion services are such a small portion of their overall mission?

Trump's willing to fund everything else they do, and I thought you said they do other things in far greater variety and details than just a few Abortions occasionally?

Is Planned Parenthood lying countryroads89?

In fact, Planned Parenthood says over and over again that abortions only make up 3% of their services. If that is the case, give them up so that you can get access to those hundreds of millions of federal dollars. Flawlessly logical.
 

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Q: How much of Planned Parenthood’s services are dedicated to abortions? Does the federal government fund those procedures?

A: Abortions represent 3 percent of total services provided by Planned Parenthood, and roughly 10 percent of its clients received an abortion. The group does receive federal funding, but the money cannot be used for abortions by law.

FULL ANSWER

We received several questions on this topic during the recent budget debate in Congress, after Arizona Sen. Jon Kyl claimed this month on the Senate floor that "well over 90 percent of what Planned Parenthood does" is provide abortion services. That figure was wildly incorrect. Planned Parenthood says only 3 percent of its total services in 2009 were abortions. The other 97 percent of services were for contraception, treatment and tests for sexually transmitted diseases, cancer screenings, and other women’s health services.

Here’s a chart from a March 2011 fact sheet, which reported that the group performed about 11.4 million total services.



Kyl’s far-off claim was mocked by comedians Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert, and Kyl’s office later walked back the statement, telling CNN that "[h]is remark was not intended to be a factual statement but rather to illustrate that Planned Parenthood, an organization that receives millions in taxpayer dollars, does subsidize abortions." That statement, too, prompted ribbing by Stewart and Colbert. But the comedic clips apparently did not make it to the inboxes of many of our readers, who sent us questions about whether or not Planned Parenthood does little more than provide abortions, and whether or not taxpayer money goes to pay for them.

Planned Parenthood’s chart shows that abortions made up 3 percent of its total services. Another way to measure the group’s abortion services, however, is to divide the total number of abortions by the number of clients. For example, Planned Parenthood said that it “provided nearly 11.4 million medical services for 3 million people” in 2009. Its 2011 fact sheet says it performed 332,278 abortion procedures in 2009. That would mean that roughly one out of every 10 clients received an abortion.

Taxpayer Funding

Planned Parenthood’s 2008-2009 annual report states that it received $363.2 million in "Government Grants and Contracts." (See page 29.) That’s about one-third of its total revenues for the fiscal year ending June 30, 2009.

However, not all of that money is from the federal government. Planned Parenthood’s government funding comes from two sources: the Title X Family Planning Program and Medicaid. About $70 million is Title X funding, Planned Parenthood spokesman Tait Sye told us. The rest — about $293 million — is Medicaid funding, which includes both federal and state money.

But Planned Parenthood cannot use the money it receives from the federal government for abortions anyway. According to the Department of Health and Human Service’s website, "by law, Title X funds may not be used in programs where abortion is a method of family planning." Medicaid funding is restricted by the Hyde Amendment to only abortion cases involving rape, incest or endangerment to the life of the mother. Some states use their own funds under Medicaid to go beyond that. Seventeen states and, until recently, the District of Columbia pay for "medically necessary" abortions, according to the Guttmacher Institute. The federal budget deal now bans Washington, D.C., from using its funds to pay for abortions.

— Lori Robertson and Michael Morse

Sources
Planned Parenthood. Annual Report 2008-2009.

Planned Parenthood. Planned Parenthood Services. Fact Sheet. Mar 2011.

"CNN Newsroom." Transcript. CNN. 8 Apr 2011.

Guttmacher Institute. State Funding of Abortion Under Medicaid. Policy Brief. 1 Apr 2011.

DeBonis, Mike. "D.C. abortion funding: the facts." The Washington Post. 11 Apr 2011.

http://www.factcheck.org/2011/04/planned-parenthood/


You may want to check out the Washington Post fact check on Planned Parenthood. And keep in mind, they are a very liberal outfit. They claim the 3% figure is essentially a lie.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/ijr.co...ue-abortion-percent-total-federal-lummis/amp/
 

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In fact, Planned Parenthood says over and over again that abortions only make up 3% of their services. If that is the case, give them up so that you can get access to those hundreds of millions of federal dollars. Flawlessly logical.

Seems like an easy choice to me especially if I'm primarily interested in providing all of those Women's health care services ex-pat posted. What's not to like about that trade off? 100% funding, for giving up only 3% of of the services I provide?

That's a win/win.
 

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However, not all of that money is from the federal government. Planned Parenthood’s government funding comes from two sources: the Title X Family Planning Program and Medicaid. About $70 million is Title X funding, Planned Parenthood spokesman Tait Sye told us. The rest — about $293 million — is Medicaid funding, which includes both federal and state money.

All of this funding comes from Government (taxpayers) ex-pat. Either Federal or State.
 
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The Federal Drug Administration’s list, updated weekly, of certified mammography facilities does not list any Planned Parenthood clinics. Some Planned Parenthood affiliates host free mammography mobile vans for low-income and uninsured women.

Maloney said in a statement: “Anyone who has ever had a routine well woman visit understands that after a breast exam, a doctor may refer a woman to a radiologist for a mammogram. In her testimony, Cecile Richards made it clear that is exactly what Planned Parenthood does, and that’s precisely what I was referring to. Attempts to split hairs on this issue ignores the more important point: many women would not have access to mammograms without Planned Parenthood. Many Planned Parenthood clinics hosts visits by mobile-mammogram vans, and help women find grants to pay for mammograms so that they can afford these services.”

Definitely lied on purpose, probably doesn't even know. Or he knows they don't provide mammograms, and lied anyway.

For the record I think Schumer is an ***, I don't know how he gets re-elected.

However, "Breast Care" for women is obviously a large part of PP activity. It would be a shame to throw the baby out with the bath water (no pun intended) when it is a fact that Breast Cancer is now considered to be one of the easiest to detect, treat and has a very high survival rate when caught early.

I think the "splitting hairs" comment cited above from Michigan's post has validity here; obviously the equipment does not exist yet the services are rendered.
 

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I think the "splitting hairs" comment cited above from Michigan's post has validity here; obviously the equipment does not exist yet the services are rendered.

Could other free clinics that don't offer abortions commit to the same referrals, exams? I'm pretty sure they could. The majority of PP's business model is abortions, and we're paying for it whether they say we are or not. I have a feeling the GOP is going to make PP be a shell of its former self.
 

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For the record I think Schumer is an ***, I don't know how he gets re-elected.

However, "Breast Care" for women is obviously a large part of PP activity. It would be a shame to throw the baby out with the bath water (no pun intended) when it is a fact that Breast Cancer is now considered to be one of the easiest to detect, treat and has a very high survival rate when caught early.

I think the "splitting hairs" comment cited above from Michigan's post has validity here; obviously the equipment does not exist yet the services are rendered.

All Planned Parenthood does is provide a breast exam to possibly detect a lump. They send the woman to another clinic to get a mammogram which makes the final determination as to what additional testing, if any is needed.

Planned Parenthood can exist without federal money. They get a lot in private donations. More importantly, if they give up just "3%" of their services, abortions, they get full federal funding.

And by the way, if the federal funds don't go to Planned Parenthood they can go to the thousands of other clinics around the country to provide the very same services.
 
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You missed this part, FIFY.

OK ex-pat. Then they shouldn't miss that relatively small amount Trump's cutting off from them.

Abortion services should see no real effect since it's only 3% of what they do, and obviously they have many other sources of funding they can still tap to continue doing all the rest of their vitally important work for Women's health care.
 
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According to the Department of Health and Human Service’s website, "by law, Title X funds may not be used in programs where abortion is a method of family planning." Medicaid funding is restricted by the Hyde Amendment to only abortion cases involving rape, incest or endangerment to the life of the mother.

More importantly, if they give up just "3%" of their services, abortions, they get full federal funding.

You keep missing this part, why?
 

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Yet you used the same stat to support your point?

If you'll notice, I put it in quotation marks to highlight that very point. Planned Parenthood lies when they claim that abortion is only 3% of their services. I don't care what percentage of services abortions provide. I care more about what percentage of revenues abortions provide. That tells you exactly how important abortions are to Planned Parenthood.

I was being facetious by noting that if the 3% figure is accurate. It should be easy for Planned Parenthood to give that up to accept federal money.
 
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OK ex-pat. Then they shouldn't miss that relatively small amount Trump's cutting off from them.

Abortion services should see no real effect since it's only 3% of what they do, and obviously they have many other sources of funding they can still tap to continue doing all the rest of their vitally important work for Women's health care.
According to the Department of Health and Human Service’s website, "by law, Title X funds may not be used in programs where abortion is a method of family planning." Medicaid funding is restricted by the Hyde Amendment to only abortion cases involving rape, incest or endangerment to the life of the mother.

You missed this part too.
 

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You keep missing this part, why?

Surely you know that money is fungible. Those federal dollars are used to pay for expenses that the abortion revenue is thus not required to pay for. It gives them a terrific opportunity to actually increase their number of abortions since abortion revenue is not carrying their share of the load.
 
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