Where does the south end and the north begin in the state of Kentucky?

[zcats]

Human beings are an odd lot. The collective attitudes of the people in your geographical area have absolutely nothing to do with your individual character. Who you are is a product of the choices you make as an autonomous individual. This whole business of who and what "my people" are is pure tribalism, the irrational desire to shift personal, individual identity to the faceless, collective masses. This is the same kind of knee-jerk behavior that causes lemmings to run off cliffs.

It is beyond me why people get angry over general characterizations of a particular region, as if I walked up and kicked your dog. The truth is that you, me, and anyone else reading this post are not southern, or northern, or anything in between; we're individual human beings with thoughts, dreams, and desires that exist nowhere but our own minds.

I shouldn't be surprised. We now live in the regressive era, where lessons we supposedly learned 200 years ago have lost their didactic inertia. We have re-become a people who identify ourselves not as individual, principled beings with agency over our own lives, but as slavish devotees to clans, tribes, and flags.

Well thought out post but I would disagree with a couple of points. First, identifying with a historical, geographic or familial group is not completely negative and is in fact the basis of human culture. No one said that people who consider themselves southerners, yankees, or mid-westerners somehow were not individual human beings with free thought and opinions.

Rejecting family, regional social and moral values in favor of modern media/political tribalism is the current trend and based on rampant worship of electronic consumerism and electronic instant news bites which are propagated by non-journalists who always have an underlying motive. What is missing today in current society is the ability and desire to critically question and evaluate what they read on their phones for accuracy and truth instead of searching for an opinion which roughly reinforces whatever bias they hold for the moment. You obviously don't fit into that category. The second issue with your post is that lemmings do not in fact perform mass suicide by leaping off cliffs. Carry on.

 

[zcats]

Oh I know. I was using my generalities brush because this topic gets brought up once a year and it's fun to get people worked up. I take this stance in all of these threads.



Gen-X but tail end, so you're close.

I'm sure there's rednecks everywhere. There's tons in my own family and they are mostly nice people, but willful ignorance/lack of education and being proud to be a moron is something I don't deal with very well. That's a flaw I have. I'll admit it. I also know it's not limited to the south, but you're full of it if you think it's not more prevalent down there.

However, in my personal observations - completely free of facebook and twitter - the people who give a **** about being southern to the point of taking offense if someone knocks it are typically rednecks. Clearly I struck a nerve and I do it in all the southern threads. And I knew I would this time and any other time by posting something not "yee haw SOUTH, y'all" on a UK message board.

You were just arrogant and insulting, a little. Thanks for stopping by.

 

[railroadkat_1]

My 34 year old daughter lives in Omaha Nebraska and I consider that the Midwest. The Midwest accent is rubbing off on here. Natural for one who has lived there 12 years now. I worked with a lot of people from Nebraska , Iowa, Texas ,Missouri, Illinois , Kentucky and Kansas. Skilled labor covering 5 crafts rebuilding Locomotives for the Union Pacific Rail Road.

 

[BlueRattie_rivals]

Well thought out post but I would disagree with a couple of points. First, identifying with a historical, geographic or familial group is not completely negative and is in fact the basis of human culture. No one said that people who consider themselves southerners, yankees, or mid-westerners somehow were not individual human beings with free thought and opinions.

Rejecting family, regional social and moral values in favor of modern media/political tribalism is the current trend and based on rampant worship of electronic consumerism and electronic instant news bites which are propagated by non-journalists who always have an underlying motive. What is missing today in current society is the ability and desire to critically question and evaluate what they read on their phones for accuracy and truth instead of searching for an opinion which roughly reinforces whatever bias they hold for the moment. You obviously don't fit into that category. The second issue with your post is that lemmings do not in fact perform mass suicide by leaping off cliffs. Carry on.

Fair, thoughtful, and articulate. Your point about the lack of critical reasoning skills among the hoi polloi is especially on point. Carry on yourself.

 

[railroadkat_1]

Some people in this thread need to look up the Mason Dixon line and see where it actually is.

Yes I know where it is but Kentucky was a Neutral State in the Civil War!

 

[UKGrad93]

My 34 year old daughter lives in Omaha Nebraska and I consider that the Midwest. The Midwest accent is rubbing off on here. Natural for one who has lived there 12 years now.

In my experience, most people from the Midwest would claim to have no accent.

 

[Stonewall12]

Very good analysis, except that as a western KY native (Union County) now living in Evansville, I can assure you that most of us would strongly disagree with the characterization that we are like southern IN. The topography of the river counties near Evansville (Union, Henderson, and Daviess) do have a midwestern look but culturally are quite different than Evansville. Growing up and even to this day, there has always been a strong IN/KY rivalry in my part of the world. There's a HUGE difference when you cross the Ohio River. Western Ky BBQ is just another example,

The southern part of west Ky (Hopkinsville, Mayfield etc) definitely have a southern feel to them. You'll definitely hear some authentic southern accents in those areas.

West KY does not start until you get West of Ky Lake IMO. All of that is way southern. Mayfield, Fulton, Clinton. Jackson Purchase

 

[MegaBlue05]

You were just arrogant and insulting, a little. Thanks for stopping by.

It's the Paddock. I thought that's what we did here. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

 

[TortElvisII]

West KY does not start until you get West of Ky Lake IMO. All of that is way southern. Mayfield, Fulton, Clinton. Jackson Purchase

So KY had no western part until 1818?

Western KY starts long before then.

 

[Stonewall12]

So KY had no western part until 1830's?

Western KY starts long before then.

The area west of the lakes always gets left out. WKU is nearly 3 hours from freaking Hickman.

 

[TortElvisII]

The area west of the lakes always gets left out. WKU is nearly 3 hours from freaking Hickman.

How far is Richmond from Pike County?

WKU and EKU are both in central KY.

 

[CrittendenWildcat]

Boone, Kenton, Campbell = Northern Kentucky = Greater Cincinnati = Cincinnati Suburbs. Louisville/Jefferson County = An island unto itself, very northern.
From NKY to Lexington, and from JeffCo to E'town = Gradients/Mix of Nortern/Southern
South of E'town and Lexington = South

 

[zcats]

It's the Paddock. I thought that's what we did here. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Maybe, they moved the thread. I never go to the paddock

 

[AustinTXCat]

My 34 year old daughter lives in Omaha Nebraska and I consider that the Midwest. The Midwest accent is rubbing off on here. Natural for one who has lived there 12 years now. I worked with a lot of people from Nebraska , Iowa, Texas ,Missouri, Illinois , Kentucky and Kansas. Skilled labor covering 5 crafts rebuilding Locomotives for the Union Pacific Rail Road.

Up until this past Thursday, my 86 year-old aunt resided in the Omaha area since 1962. She just moved to Reno, NV. She also speaks with a thick Midwestern accent. Same for her daughter and grandchildren. Easy to understand.

 

[BlueVelvetFog]

My 34 year old daughter lives in Omaha Nebraska and I consider that the Midwest. The Midwest accent is rubbing off on here. Natural for one who has lived there 12 years now. I worked with a lot of people from Nebraska , Iowa, Texas ,Missouri, Illinois , Kentucky and Kansas. Skilled labor covering 5 crafts rebuilding Locomotives for the Union Pacific Rail Road.

Doesn't "Midwest" accent really mean NO accent?

 

[BlueVelvetFog]

Well thought out post but I would disagree with a couple of points. First, identifying with a historical, geographic or familial group is not completely negative and is in fact the basis of human culture. No one said that people who consider themselves southerners, yankees, or mid-westerners somehow were not individual human beings with free thought and opinions.

Rejecting family, regional social and moral values in favor of modern media/political tribalism is the current trend and based on rampant worship of electronic consumerism and electronic instant news bites which are propagated by non-journalists who always have an underlying motive. What is missing today in current society is the ability and desire to critically question and evaluate what they read on their phones for accuracy and truth instead of searching for an opinion which roughly reinforces whatever bias they hold for the moment. You obviously don't fit into that category. The second issue with your post is that lemmings do not in fact perform mass suicide by leaping off cliffs. Carry on.

 

[BlueVelvetFog]

It's the Paddock. I thought that's what we did here. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Funny. He called you arrogant while beating others to death with a thesaurus.

 

[dgtatu01]

Ohio River? Lexington?

What say you?

Glasgow and London have both a White Castle and a Krystal so I will say the Cumberland Parkway is a good line of demarcation.

 

[Free_Salato_Blue]

Serve Sweet Tea = Southern
Don't = Yankees

 

[mailman85_rivals376684]

 

[Rebelfreedomeagle]

What I gather from the responses and personal observation is, so far, Kentucky is part southern, part midwestern, part gay, and very white.

Kentucky is the Billy Gilman of states.

 

[huck]

That was so funny to me, gut hurt. Back in the 80's, I tried some of that stuff, little bit on end of knife blade - teny tiny bit - and grunted, snorted, snotted .... moaned.... lol, it was some nasty stuff.... gave some to friends..... so funny that time

 

[huck]

The reverse is what I've witnessed

What I have witnessed is that the people from up north, most of them can only do two things, what they are trained for and run their mouth, I call them Yankees.... are cold blooded and if will take/steal anything - if they think they can get by with it (no internal morals at all). The Southern people that I know, can do a little of everything and if need be, live off the land. Yanks are like a tick... if they dont have something to suck from.... they got to have something to cheat/steal or con. not all but most.

I shouldn't have said that.. but I did. Not all Northern people are like that, but it seems like too many to me.... but now I do live in Florida and lots of Boston and Jersey here.

 

[huck]

Doesn't "Midwest" accent really mean NO accent?

NO accent means you are talking to someone that learned to talk, where you learned to talk, and some try to take it all out

 

[pitinoshairplugs]

East ky and southeast ky isn't the south. It's Appalachia. More like West Virginia than Alabama or Mississippi.

Louisville/nky is Midwestern. Definetly not southern.

Lexington/bluegrass region is sort of an animal to itself. Not southern, not Midwestern...

The only "southern" parts of the state are west ky and south central ky.

 

[BlueVelvetFog]

What I have witnessed is that the people from up north, most of them can only do two things, what they are trained for and run their mouth, I call them Yankees.... are cold blooded and if will take/steal anything - if they think they can get by with it (no internal morals at all). The Southern people that I know, can do a little of everything and if need be, live off the land. Yanks are like a tick... if they dont have something to suck from.... they got to have something to cheat/steal or con. not all but most.

I shouldn't have said that.. but I did. Not all Northern people are like that, but it seems like too many to me.... but now I do live in Florida and lots of Boston and Jersey here.

I will give you Boston/NY....but it's 2017--and I'm reading someone using the term "Yankee".