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TarHeelEer

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Contrary to what leftists will say, and contrary to what @dave believes, my wife ended up talking me into voting for Trump. That vote was under duress. Trump and MAGA are long-term terrible for this country. I do not believe Trump will allow trillions to be cut from the federal budget, no matter how much Elon boasts it. As long as we're deficit spending, after we've already been downgraded, we are heading toward the brink. BRICS is pouring gasoline on the fire.

I'm also tired of the fight. Noone, except Elon and Rand Paul, are listening. We're just circling the drain. I'm not like you.

I'm hoping for a 269/269 electoral tie and let's get this party started.
 

Gunny46

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Contrary to what leftists will say, and contrary to what @dave believes, my wife ended up talking me into voting for Trump. That vote was under duress. Trump and MAGA are long-term terrible for this country. I do not believe Trump will allow trillions to be cut from the federal budget, no matter how much Elon boasts it. As long as we're deficit spending, after we've already been downgraded, we are heading toward the brink. BRICS is pouring gasoline on the fire.

I'm also tired of the fight. Noone, except Elon and Rand Paul, are listening. We're just circling the drain. I'm not like you.

I'm hoping for a 269/269 electoral tie and let's get this party started.

It's not going to be a party. That's Insanity that only the radical left supports. Along with their foreign allies. Most on the right and in the middle who have experience on the subject would rather avoid that nonsense. You're right that Trump can't fix decades of decline in 4 years. It will take generations. His job is to get it headed in the right direction and ours to continue to elect others that will continue the fight after he is done.
 
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TarHeelEer

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IHis job is to get it headed in the right direction
His speeches do not indicate that he's headed in the right direction. He promises more deficit spending or tax breaks but barely says a word about reducing the size of government. He's still headed in the same direction as leftists because he is a leftist. He has even promised to give back the SALT tax break again, after killing it not 7 years ago. That was Ryan's tax plan, not his, so I get it.

And this nonsense about tariffs rather than income taxes?

I know it won't be a party, but we're headed there one way or another. I'd rather it not be any longer of an episode of I told you so than it has to be.
 

atlkvb

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Contrary to what leftists will say, and contrary to what @dave believes, my wife ended up talking me into voting for Trump. That vote was under duress. Trump and MAGA are long-term terrible for this country. I do not believe Trump will allow trillions to be cut from the federal budget, no matter how much Elon boasts it. As long as we're deficit spending, after we've already been downgraded, we are heading toward the brink. BRICS is pouring gasoline on the fire.

I'm also tired of the fight. Noone, except Elon and Rand Paul, are listening. We're just circling the drain. I'm not like you.

I'm hoping for a 269/269 electoral tie and let's get this party started.
So you're sitting this one out? 🤔
 

Gunny46

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His speeches do not indicate that he's headed in the right direction. He promises more deficit spending or tax breaks but barely says a word about reducing the size of government. He's still headed in the same direction as leftists because he is a leftist. He has even promised to give back the SALT tax break again, after killing it not 7 years ago. That was Ryan's tax plan, not his, so I get it.

And this nonsense about tariffs rather than income taxes?

I know it won't be a party, but we're headed there one way or another. I'd rather it not be any longer of an episode of I told you so than it has to be.

FFS with the complaining about Tarriffs. They work and if some of us had our way we would embargo certain Countries.

As far as I told you so. You said he couldn't win after he announced again and gave up on him everytime they used lawfare. Well it looks like he may actually win. If not he will definitely come closer than any of the Republican or Libertarian candidates could have. You can include any moderate Democrats too.

As far as him fixing everything in four years. Nobody is delusional enough to think that's going to happen. The fight is just getting started. It's taken decades of screwing the Country up to get in the position we are in. It will take decades to fix it.
 
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ThePunish-EER

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FFS with the complaining about Tarriffs. They work and if some of us had our way we would embargo certain Countries.

As far as I told you so. You said he couldn't win after he announced again and gave up on him everytime they used lawfare. Well it looks like he may actually win. If not he will definitely come closer than any of the Republican or Libertarian candidates could have. You can include any moderate Democrats too.

As far as him fixing everything in four years. Nobody is delusional enough to think that's going to happen. The fight is just getting started. It's taken decades of screwing the Country up to ger in the position we are in. It will take decades to fix it.
Decades well past our lifetime. This destruction probably goes back to the end of the 1950’s. I know one thing at the top of my list is the end of the msm and democrat racial card in every topic and accusing all whites of being racist because of their color. I am absolutely sick of it.
 

TarHeelEer

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You said he couldn't win after he announced again and gave up on him everytime they used lawfare. Well it looks like he may actually win. If not he will definitely come closer than any of the Republican or Libertarian candidates could have. You can include any moderate Democrats too.
Against Cackles Harris? Any decent conservative would win. JD might even win, even though he's less than fiscally conservative.

As far as him fixing everything in four years. Nobody is delusional enough to think that's going to happen. The fight is just getting started. It's taken decades of screwing the Country up to ger in the position we are in. It will take decades to fix it.
Still going in the same direction is not fixing the problem. It would take a disruption of the governmental system, and Trump is not up for the job.
 

Gunny46

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Decades well past our lifetime. This destruction probably goes back to the end of the 1950’s. I know one thing at the top of my list is the end of the msm and democrat racial card in every topic and accusing all whites of being racist because of their color. I am absolutely sick of it.

It's called a struggle session. Used in Nazi Germany, The Soviet Union, and Communist China. Our own military uses the tactics in Psychological Operations. Why? Because it's effective. That is until you educate the masses on what's being done to divide them. The reality is there's not that many racist people left in the world. Some yes. In the big picture they are few and every race has them.
 

Gunny46

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Against Cackles Harris? Any decent conservative would win. JD might even win, even though he's less than fiscally conservative.


Still going in the same direction is not fixing the problem. It would take a disruption of the governmental system, and Trump is not up for the job.

No they wouldn't. They would be running against the same machine and would have surrendered already. Fetterman and Biden won in the last election. Everyone knew they were Vegetables.
 

atlkvb

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Decades well past our lifetime. This destruction probably goes back to the end of the 1950’s. I know one thing at the top of my list is the end of the msm and democrat racial card in every topic and accusing all whites of being racist because of their color. I am absolutely sick of it.
I'll second that and add I'm tired of Black folks being dissed by the Left just because they vote GOP. It's the epitome of racism, as Ted Cruz eloquently points out in this clip. Watch how he eviscerates this woke Leftist while pointing out THEY are the true racists

 

ThePunish-EER

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I'll second that and add I'm tired of Black folks being dissed by the Left just because they vote GOP. It's the epitome of racism, as Ted Cruz eloquently points out in this clip. Watch how he eviscerates this woke Leftist while pointing out THEY are the true racists


Exactly. They call blacks “Uncle Tom” on msm networks. Where’s the outrage? It’s ridiculous
 

atlkvb

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Exactly. They call blacks “Uncle Tom” on msm networks. Where’s the outrage? It’s ridiculous
The fact is the Left has been pimpin' Black folks for political gain since the 1964 Civil rights Act. All they do is pay lip service to "equal treatment" of Black people, but if any one of 'em just happens to vote Conservative...well then they are nothin but N*gg*rs...(aka "Uncle Toms")

Matter of fact I had one mind numbed Leftist on this very forum call me that...never explained why when asked and never apologized either.

Racist. 😏
 

DvlDog4WVU

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Against Cackles Harris? Any decent conservative would win. JD might even win, even though he's less than fiscally conservative.


Still going in the same direction is not fixing the problem. It would take a disruption of the governmental system, and Trump is not up for the job.
I disagree with you on anyone with a pulse could beat her.

A. She wouldn’t even be the nominee if it wasn’t for Trump shellacking Biden in that debate. No other conservative would’ve done that to Biden.

B. I think the GOP ground game would be non-existent without Trump and the Dems would’ve slept walked to victory.

I’m still not convinced he’ll win. There is still too much fraud in the system and it sufficient checks and balances against it,
 

Gunny46

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Everyone just needs to get off their *** and go vote. If not enjoy your higher inflation and more open borders.
 

ThePunish-EER

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I disagree with you on anyone with a pulse could beat her.

A. She wouldn’t even be the nominee if it wasn’t for Trump shellacking Biden in that debate. No other conservative would’ve done that to Biden.

B. I think the GOP ground game would be non-existent without Trump and the Dems would’ve slept walked to victory.

I’m still not convinced he’ll win. There is still too much fraud in the system and it sufficient checks and balances against it,
Vote Trump like your life depends upon it, because it really does.
 

roadtrasheer

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I disagree with you on anyone with a pulse could beat her.

A. She wouldn’t even be the nominee if it wasn’t for Trump shellacking Biden in that debate. No other conservative would’ve done that to Biden.

B. I think the GOP ground game would be non-existent without Trump and the Dems would’ve slept walked to victory.

I’m still not convinced he’ll win. There is still too much fraud in the system and it sufficient checks and balances against it,
B is spot on . Here in NJ the gop ground game is rolling.
 

Shirley Knott

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FFS with the complaining about Tarriffs. They work and if some of us had our way we would embargo certain Countries.

As far as I told you so. You said he couldn't win after he announced again and gave up on him everytime they used lawfare. Well it looks like he may actually win. If not he will definitely come closer than any of the Republican or Libertarian candidates could have. You can include any moderate Democrats too.

As far as him fixing everything in four years. Nobody is delusional enough to think that's going to happen. The fight is just getting started. It's taken decades of screwing the Country up to get in the position we are in. It will take decades to fix it.
I have no idea the total amount of money that is handed out to the immigrants crossing our borders but I suspect it could/will save a large portion of the US budget if Trump starts sending them back home. Also suspect many would leave willingly if he cuts off the cash cow the present administration has been doling out..
 

Gunny46

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I have no idea the total amount of money that is handed out to the immigrants crossing our borders but I suspect it could/will save a large portion of the US budget if Trump starts sending them back home. Also suspect many would leave willingly if he cuts off the cash cow the present administration has been doling out..

Unfortunately some are going to have to be escorted out and then keep them out. Their country sent them here for a reason and that wasn't for a better life. Hence why former immigrants don't want them here either.
 
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Gunny46

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I have no idea the total amount of money that is handed out to the immigrants crossing our borders but I suspect it could/will save a large portion of the US budget if Trump starts sending them back home. Also suspect many would leave willingly if he cuts off the cash cow the present administration has been doling out..
Unfortunately some are going to have to escorted out and then keep them out. Their country sent them here for a reason and that wasn't for a better life. Hence why former immigrants don't want them here either.


 

MountaineerWV

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Contrary to what leftists will say, and contrary to what @dave believes, my wife ended up talking me into voting for Trump. That vote was under duress. Trump and MAGA are long-term terrible for this country. I do not believe Trump will allow trillions to be cut from the federal budget, no matter how much Elon boasts it. As long as we're deficit spending, after we've already been downgraded, we are heading toward the brink. BRICS is pouring gasoline on the fire.

I'm also tired of the fight. Noone, except Elon and Rand Paul, are listening. We're just circling the drain. I'm not like you.

I'm hoping for a 269/269 electoral tie and let's get this party started.
First off, you don't need to acknowledge or explain your vote to anyone. Why you feel the need to, or anyone who DEMANDS to know, baffles my mind. It's a personal choice, and that's all it should be. Attempting to "explain" it just means that you feel the need to appease others. Screw that.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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First off, you don't need to acknowledge or explain your vote to anyone. Why you feel the need to, or anyone who DEMANDS to know, baffles my mind. It's a personal choice, and that's all it should be. Attempting to "explain" it just means that you feel the need to appease others. Screw that.
Or, it’s a defacto political message board and he’s fine having the discussion. It’s actually kind of odd to not have the discussion and make the appeal of why on this board.
 

TarHeelEer

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Or, it’s a defacto political message board and he’s fine having the discussion. It’s actually kind of odd to not have the discussion and make the appeal of why on this board.

This is the only place I would consider doing it. It's a vent for me. My wife is voting for the lesser of 2 evils. I refused at first, but she threatened cutting me off, so I relented. Not really, but it's better than the true story of relenting because it delays the inevitable, as she pointed out time and time again.
 

ThePunish-EER

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This is the only place I would consider doing it. It's a vent for me. My wife is voting for the lesser of 2 evils. I refused at first, but she threatened cutting me off, so I relented. Not really, but it's better than the true story of relenting because it delays the inevitable, as she pointed out time and time again.
All Trump haters need to forget personality and vote policy. If you love America. Vote Trump. If you love freedom. Vote Trump. If you love your family. Vote Trump. If you want to save this country. Vote Trump. It’s simple. You can vote for socialism and communism, but you cannot vote your way out of it. That’s what this battle is about. It’s much larger than Trump. Once you see it and accept it, the choice is clear.
 

TarHeelEer

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All Trump haters need to forget personality and vote policy. If you love America. Vote Trump. If you love freedom. Vote Trump. If you love your family. Vote Trump. If you want to save this country. Vote Trump. It’s simple. You can vote for socialism and communism, but you cannot vote your way out of it. That’s what this battle is about. It’s much larger than Trump. Once you see it and accept it, the choice is clear.
That is precisely it. What policy?!? Below is his "tax policy" for the last 2 months:

No more taxes on tips!
No wait, No more taxes on tips, or overtime!
Still not good enough, all of the above, and I'm reimplementing the SALT tax breaks!
Oh to hell with taxes altogether, I'm just going to tax Chyna (more accurately everyone).

He's a used car salesman. He'll say whatever to get elected. He has no moral convictions, only a forked tongue.
 

Gunny46

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That is precisely it. What policy?!? Below is his "tax policy" for the last 2 months:

No more taxes on tips!
No wait, No more taxes on tips, or overtime!
Still not good enough, all of the above, and I'm reimplementing the SALT tax breaks!
Oh to hell with taxes altogether, I'm just going to tax Chyna (more accurately everyone).

He's a used car salesman. He'll say whatever to get elected. He has no moral convictions, only a forked tongue.

It's a good thing your wife runs your household.
 

Gunny46

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Truth. She married me.


We complement each other very well. She tells me I'm the smartest person she knows. I tell her she can command a presence anywhere in this county, and able to handle political situations like nobody's business. We're quite the team.

Women say alot of **** they don't really mean. I wouldn't get too cocky about it. At least she cares enough to not hurt your feelings I guess.
 

Gunny46

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That sounds amazing!!!

Why didn't he do any of that the first time around?

Because the Democrats were attempting to impeach him ever five minutes. Any other Republican would have resigned. He still managed to do a better job than the past and present Obama regime.
 

Gunny46

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Now you know why the Democrats are crying about Trump's "Revenge list". They are about to get investigated when we get a new Attorney General.







The Republican-led House Administration Committee has found evidence that illegal donations from China, Russia, Iran and Venezuela may have been laundered to Democratic campaigns through the party’s online fundraising juggernaut ActBlue.

Administration Committee Chairman Bryan Steil (R-Wis.) wrote to ActBlue CEO Regina Wallace-Jones on Monday “to demand information on ActBlue’s donor verification policies,” which are allegedly letting US adversaries use unwitting straw donors to make political contributions.