Where might someone find a current UK Football depth chart?
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I don't think they have published a spring depth chart yet. It will be up when available.
I don't think that was an official depth chart RV posted, I think it was RV's opinion of what it might look like - but RV usually gets it pretty close.
Just go scan the roster + freshman coming in and have fun picking your own...some are obvious and several others are up in the air till fall camp
I watched and charted three practices and the chart was an accurate reflection of where and in what order kids played during the spring. I try very hard to keep opinion out of my charts.
Could you repost it or post a link to it. I would love to see how the depth chart unofficially looks as of now.
One must be aware that it's most times not a straight substitution according to the 2 deep chart. IOW, Stenberg is listed as the LG backup but if Haynes or Meyers needed to be subbed for you can bet big George will go in the game first. There are other positions like that as well.
X WR Jeff Badet, Blake Bone, Tavin Richardson
LT Cole Mosier, Tate Leavitt
LG Nick Haynes, Logan Stenberg
C Jon Toth, Jervontius Stallings
RG Ramsey Meyers, George Asafo-Adjei
RT Kyle Meadows, Mason Wolfe
TE (Y & F) C.J. Conrad, Greg Hart
F-Back Will Tom Collins, Tanner Fink
Slot guys (Y and F receivers along with the TE's) Garrett Johnson, Ryan Timmons, Charles Walker, Alex Montgomery
Z WR Dorian Baker, Jabari Greenwood, Dakota Holtzclaw
RB Stanley Williams, Mikel Horton, Jojo Kemp, Sihiem King
QB Drew Barker, Stephen Johnson II, Gunnar Hoak/Davis Mattingly
DE Courtney Miggins, Kengera Daniel, Alvonte Bell
NT Matt Elam, Naquez Pringle, Jacob Hyde
DT Regie Meant, Courtney Miggins, Adrian Middleton
DE/LB (Jack) Denzil Ware, Di'Niro Laster
WLB Jordan Jones, Eli Brown
MLB Courtney Love, Kash Daniel, Di'Niro Laster
SLB Josh Allen, Kobie Walker - this position subs out in the nickel package for ...
Nickel Blake McClain, Kendall Randolph
Boundary CB Chris Westry, J.D. Harmon, Jared Tucker
SS Mike Edwards, Blake McClain, Marcus McWilson
FS Darius West, Marcus McWilson, Marcus Walker
Field CB Derrick Baity, Jared Tucker, Kei Beckham
Boom, Dubose, Firios and Darryl Long did not participate fully in spring drills due to injury/surgery recovery. During the non-contact drills, Boom worked with the ones and there's little doubt Boom will be at the top of the chart in the fall so I put him there. The other 3 are probably going to come into fall camp #3 at their position and have to work their way back up.
X WR Jeff Badet, Blake Bone, Tavin Richardson
LT Cole Mosier, Tate Leavitt
LG Nick Haynes, Logan Stenberg
C Jon Toth, Jervontius Stallings
RG Ramsey Meyers, George Asafo-Adjei
RT Kyle Meadows, Mason Wolfe
TE (Y & F) C.J. Conrad, Greg Hart
F-Back Will Tom Collins, Tanner Fink
Slot guys (Y and F receivers along with the TE's) Garrett Johnson, Ryan Timmons, Charles Walker, Alex Montgomery
Z WR Dorian Baker, Jabari Greenwood, Dakota Holtzclaw
RB Stanley Williams, Mikel Horton, Jojo Kemp, Sihiem King
QB Drew Barker, Stephen Johnson II, Gunnar Hoak/Davis Mattingly
DE Courtney Miggins, Kengera Daniel, Alvonte Bell
NT Matt Elam, Naquez Pringle, Jacob Hyde
DT Regie Meant, Courtney Miggins, Adrian Middleton
DE/LB (Jack) Denzil Ware, Di'Niro Laster
WLB Jordan Jones, Eli Brown
MLB Courtney Love, Kash Daniel, Di'Niro Laster
SLB Josh Allen, Kobie Walker - this position subs out in the nickel package for ...
Nickel Blake McClain, Kendall Randolph
Boundary CB Chris Westry, J.D. Harmon, Jared Tucker
SS Mike Edwards, Blake McClain, Marcus McWilson
FS Darius West, Marcus McWilson, Marcus Walker
Field CB Derrick Baity, Jared Tucker, Kei Beckham
Boom, Dubose, Firios and Darryl Long did not participate fully in spring drills due to injury/surgery recovery. During the non-contact drills, Boom worked with the ones and there's little doubt Boom will be at the top of the chart in the fall so I put him there. The other 3 are probably going to come into fall camp #3 at their position and have to work their way back up.
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Now THIS is the reason for my optimism. We lose ONE starter on offense, and although he is a VERY good Remington candidate and a fifth year senior we will have a four star with a year in the program ready to step up.
We only lose two starters on Defense, And we should have a lot of players from the end team ready to step up
Not just a great jump in our experience but a great jump in talent from a few years ago.
Almost, but not quite - the entire starting group of CBs and S are sophomores, Edwards & West are RS So. What's even more impressive is look at the 2nd string - mostly underclassmen there, too.
Offense - 1 SR (Toth), 2 counting the FB position in the entire 2 deep
Defense - 3 SRs in the entire 2 deep (1 DL, NB, backup CB)
Even if several guys are unknowns, this certainly bodes well for depth in both 2016 & more so in 2017
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This is in fact why we are poised to have a very good looking football team for the 2017 season.
It will go against a lot of agendas currently on this board, but better times are indeed shortly over the horizon.
Timmons is likely to start. Boom likely to jump to NFL and Kemp will graduate. With Toth, those are four key people to replace on offense.
What did Timmons add last year? Hopefully a big year this year.
We have a four star RB and a 5.6 that I am very excited about returning, and new blood this year.
Toth is a 5.4 that will be replaced by a 5.8 with a year behind him, also other returners.
Meanwhile we will not just have returning starters but seasoned veterans at most positions, most averaging a four star instead of the borderline two and three stars we had before Stoops. Joker started more two stars than three stars with two walkons against Florida when their TWO DEEP averaged over a 5.9 in 2010, and a lot of our fans wondered why they ran over us.
Raw talent, NOT coaching in most cases, is why we didn't compete except in isolated cases before, and the "recruiting room" was just one of MANY reasons for that, huge steps in correcting the problem by this staff. Now we will soon find out if they can coach or not------not this year maybe but in 17 when we also have a lot of experience.
jauk,
I know those numbers can give a glimpse of potential when comparing kids arriving to campus, but do you really expect Bunchy or Drake to be as good or better than a 4 yr starter who is recognized as a candidate for the best OC in the country?
Of any position for 2017, Toth may be the toughest to replace, and I don't care what his ranking was coming out of HS.
All well and good, can't argue any of your post. And no, I don't expect him to be better as a second year player, but they didn't give him his four star rating for nothing, size, attitude, strength, work ethic, etc, four stars are pretty well scrutinized while a two star can slip through the cracks pretty often. Didn't Toth start as a RS freshman? I think I would take one four star over three two stars as far as the chance of finding one really outstanding player before they finish. Toth turned out to be great in hindsight, but that doesn't happen nearly as often with two stars as it does with four stars. We hit a jackpot with Toth, but I am anxious to see what kind of player Drake turns out to be.
Along with George, a near four star at a 5.7 that most think was underrated, the years experience should help him a lot, Leavitt, an even higher 5.9 four star, and a 6.1 in Young. If we can add a second 6.1 Drake is going to have a LOT of help in looking good calling our OL signals, and even if we don't hit the jackpot with Wills we have a lot of talented and experienced OL to fill out the positions.
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I cannot disagree with anything you've said either. I was just clarifying as you normally post the rivals ranking, and, over the years, I've noticed many fans overvalue those rankings when referencing guys already on campus.
Are they a decent barometer for projecting who is more likely to contribute? Sure, but that's where the value of those numbers end for me. Once they are on campus for a year or two, those numbers are fairly worthless.
Numbers don't replace NFL talent. We have recruits to be excited about. For sure. But, Toth is one of the best in the country. He has demonstrated he is a four star talent. He is not a 5.4. Do you follow?
And Tre wasn't a 5.3, Cobb wasn't a late 5.5, same with Burton and Tamme, Pryor wasn't a 5.2, or Lindley, and surely Gary Williams wasn't a 5.1, or Dickie Lyons Jr a 4.9.
Just a few examples of what UK built their success on prior to getting serious about football, the problem is there just aren't enough of those underrated and overlooked players to build a roster from, you have to have a base of players rated around a four star to build a whole team that can compete in the SEC, and the the rest of the SEC has always had a lot of four stars------I use my old numbers because I am lazy, but in 2010 Joker had TWO four stars playing and seven of our SEC opponents (no Vandy) AVERAGED having 38 four star commits the previous four classes, plus some FIVE stars..
And building with four stars is what Stoops is doing, and he still comes up with some underrated gems which is NECESSARY for us to try to keep up with the Joneses. But the BIG news to me is we have a chance to even get a few fives stars ourselves now.
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