Where should we stand

Arivacalion

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There was no evidence that kirby would be kirby until he was. Same for Lanning. Same for Day. Point being you never really “know” if there’s a better option or not. I’m not Team Fire Franklin but I’m done defending him. This is who he is.


No more defending Franklin
 

Georgia Peach

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There was no evidence that kirby would be kirby until he was. Same for Lanning. Same for Day. Point being you never really “know” if there’s a better option or not. I’m not Team Fire Franklin but I’m done defending him. This is who he is.


No more defending Franklin
What's the indictment? To me, he is not able to recruit enough good players that can play a game with balance and that has difference makers up front and at WR. The differences between the two teams last night talent-wise was evident. Now, why he can't get playmakers at WR and enough good linemen is up for debate. To me he has a reputation (earned) and limitations not experienced by tOSU and Oregon in recruiting.

Drew has a few flaws. But they are accentuated when nobody is open and the O line is getting pushed back into his face. When you can't run the ball he will look bad.

The DL was handled last night too easily. Only one TFL and no turnovers caused. The OL looks like it has regressed. These are game killing issues that cannot be easily solved on a chalkboard.
 

Player2BNamedL8r

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What's the indictment? To me, he is not able to recruit enough good players that can play a game with balance and that has difference makers up front and at WR. The differences between the two teams last night talent-wise was evident. Now, why he can't get playmakers at WR and enough good linemen is up for debate. To me he has a reputation (earned) and limitations not experienced by tOSU and Oregon in recruiting.

Drew has a few flaws. But they are accentuated when nobody is open and the O line is getting pushed back into his face. When you can't run the ball he will look bad.

The DL was handled last night too easily. Only one TFL and no turnovers caused. The OL looks like it has regressed. These are game killing issues that cannot be easily solved on a chalkboard.
I’ve said many times that JF is a positive face for the university and advocate for his players…he does a lot of things right off the field, and I believe he genuinely cares about their wellbeing. At the same time one would have to be willfully ignorant to not see the very limitations and reputation you described when it comes to the actual X’s and O’s of game preparations.

Oregon was superiorly coached…plain and simple. Grant it, their talent comes from their checkbook, but they’re not the only program with deep pockets. Imagine what our vast resources could accomplish if we weren’t stuck with 2nd class coaching!

To be honest, I really hate what cfb has become in terms of how the transfer portal has impacted team building, but here we are - wheels spinning in tier 2.
 
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KingLando

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I’ve said many times that JF is a positive face for the university and advocate for his players…he does a lot of things right off the field, and I believe he genuinely cares about their wellbeing. At the same time one would have to be willfully ignorant to not see the very limitations and reputation you described when it comes to the actual X’s and O’s of game preparations.

Oregon was superiorly coached…plain and simple. Grant it, their talent comes from their checkbook, but they’re not the only program with deep pockets. Imagine what our vast resources could accomplish if we weren’t stuck with 2nd class coaching!

To be honest, I really hate what cfb has become in terms of how the transfer portal has impacted team building, but here we are - wheels spinning in tier 2.
Like Dabo, Franklin needs to embrace the portal more. Stop going after mid tier players and get game changers. It's his job to find the money.
 

MacNit

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Like Dabo, Franklin needs to embrace the portal more. Stop going after mid tier players and get game changers. It's his job to find the money.
Something. Anything!

I understand Krafty stood on sideline yesterday. He must wonder why all the happy talk results in us getting pushed around on our home field. Again.
 
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SleepyLion

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Something. Anything!

I understand Krafty stood on sideline yesterday. He must wonder why all the happy talk results in us getting pushed around on our home field. Again.
Pat Kraft standing on the sideline is standard operating for him.
He is close to the bench for most all events I have seen him attend.
 
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WestSideLion

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There was no evidence that kirby would be kirby until he was. Same for Lanning. Same for Day. Point being you never really “know” if there’s a better option or not. I’m not Team Fire Franklin but I’m done defending him. This is who he is.


No more defending Franklin
He’s been here 11 years. His ceiling is very well established. So is his floor. He’s a 7-5 in a bad year guy and 11-3 in his best years guy.

The Penn State admin seems to be very happy with that.
 

BobPSU92

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He’s been here 11 years. His ceiling is very well established. So is his floor. He’s a 7-5 in a bad year guy and 11-3 in his best years guy.

The Penn State admin seems to be very happy with that.

$$$$$ keeps coming in, and going out. Circle of life.

Shirley, the $700 MM put into the stadium will buy some top-ten wins.

😞
 
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psuno1

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That is the same game OSU got a Interception that clearly hit the ground and the replay booth lost the video and were Hackenburg got his helmet rip off by Bosa with no 15 yard penalty. Huh
 
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There was no evidence that kirby would be kirby until he was. Same for Lanning. Same for Day. Point being you never really “know” if there’s a better option or not. I’m not Team Fire Franklin but I’m done defending him. This is who he is.


No more defending Franklin
change is SCARY OOOOOOOO
 

SouthHalls410

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I heard some saying “well we got it to OT, that’s something.” BULL! We should not settle for that kind of thinking. We should be po ed the game was a cluster f for PSU for 3 qtrs. If we want to be elite then expect excellence and demand execution. I’m so done with all the toxic positivity that defies logic.
 

BobPSU92

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I heard some saying “well we got it to OT, that’s something.” BULL! We should not settle for that kind of thinking. We should be po ed the game was a cluster f for PSU for 3 qtrs. If we want to be elite then expect excellence and demand execution. I’m so done with all the toxic positivity that defies logic.

It was great that PSU came back and got it to OT. The problem is that they shouldn’t have had to.

I really thought they’d win in the 1st OT. They had the momentum. I was sure they’d get it done. I’m such an a$$hole. 😞
 

SouthHalls410

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It was great that PSU came back and got it to OT. The problem is that they shouldn’t have had to.

I really thought they’d win in the 1st OT. They had the momentum. I was sure they’d get it done. I’m such an a$$hole. 😞
You’re not an a hole. I thought they’d win too. What was done during 2 weeks off that didn’t prepare them for 4 qtrs of football? I’m just done with people being ok with mediocrity when all that is preached is we have to be elite. Less talk more action and that’s on coaching and players being held accountable for not executing.
 
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SleepyLion

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You’re not an a hole. I thought they’d win too. What was done during 2 weeks off that didn’t prepare them for 4 qtrs of football? I’m just done with people being ok with mediocrity when all that is preached is we have to be elite. Less talk more action and that’s on coaching and players being held accountable for not executing.
if @BobPSU92 want to be an a hole ... just let him. He's used to it by now.