Where's the new CCL/ESCC Divisions

godfthr53

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These make no sense to me . It's almost like they took 2 top teams and mixed 2 middle of the road teams in each division except the top.
 

godfthr53

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How is ND in a higher division then Naz? I guess we won’t get that Naz/ Montini showdown.
I can see that easily. NND has way more boys and probably more football participation. Combine that with a couple nice seasons the last few years.
 

godfthr53

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There's no way these can be considered Tiers. Benet would be in tier 2 for sure.
 

Irish LB

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This is so poorly conceived, who decided this and is it too late to back out?
 

refref01

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Seems to be based on size but also appears biased toward making ESCC middle sized schools happy. Only team getting the short stick seems to be ND and DeLaSalle.
 

godfthr53

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There's no way a formula was used in creating these as it was originally presented. Which CCL school is doing this math calculation .
 

3OrangeWhips

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BR 2019

1 Open (non-con)
2 Open (non-con)
3 Providence (cross)
4 Marist (division)
5 @ Joliet Catholic (cross)
6 @ Loyola (division)
7 St. Laurence (cross)
8 @ Carmel Catholic (cross)
9 @ Mount Carmel (division)
 

refref01

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BR 2019

1 Open (non-con)
2 Open (non-con)
3 Providence (cross)
4 Marist (division)
5 @ Joliet Catholic (cross)
6 @ Loyola (division)
7 St. Laurence (cross)
8 @ Carmel Catholic (cross)
9 @ Mount Carmel (division)

They better hope they find a couple of cupcakes. I like that though as a more fair schedule of crossovers
 

Irish LB

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This grouping shows the greater emphasis (I believe 70%) given to conference record in the last two years. Because:
ND - 8A (when multiplied)
Rita - 7A
PC - 6A
Montini - 5A
Naz won 12 conference games last 2 years, more than anyone besides Marist. I’m struggling to understand how they can be in 3rd tier and Montini in 2nd.
 

RockSoup

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I wonder where JCA is slotted. JCA has SR in a non-con and BR in a crossover. JCA and Richards to open the season for SR if current non con scheduling stays same.
 

refref01

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Seems to favor Naz, JCA and Fenwick although the crossovers are going to be the telltale sign
 

DeanOfSelection

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Chicago Mount Carmel 2019 Football Schedule:
1 Open
2 at Maine South
3 Montini
4 Loyola Academy
5 @ Marmion
6 @ Marist
7 DLS
8 @ Viator
9 BR
 

pjjp

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Naz won 12 conference games last 2 years, more than anyone besides Marist. I’m struggling to understand how they can be in 3rd tier and Montini in 2nd.
True. Montini was 6-2 in conference last two years.
 

mchsalumni

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True. Montini was 6-2 in conference last two years.

Winning percentage? Not sure how many Naz lost in the last 2 years but I thought only 2 which would give them the advantage. This could be based on the crying that went on when they broke up the CMC regarding favoritism toward CCL schools.
 

3OrangeWhips

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Each division was ranked and then your crossovers are against the same slotted teams. Not every division plays in a cross (ex. Top v Bottom). This is my best guess based on what I have seen:

1 Marist
2 Loyola
3 Mount Carmel
4 Brother Rice

1 Notre Dame
2 St. Rita
3 Montini
4 Providence

1 Nazareth
2 Benet
3 De La Salle
4 St. Laurence

1 Fenwick
2 St. Ignatius
3 Marmion
4 Joliet Catholic

1 St. Patrick
2 Marian Central
3 St. Viator
4 Carmel Catholic

1 Leo
2 Marian Catholic
3 St. Joe's
4 DePaul Prep
 

Irish LB

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Winning percentage? Not sure how many Naz lost in the last 2 years but I thought only 2 which would give them the advantage. This could be based on the crying that went on when they broke up the CMC regarding favoritism toward CCL schools.
Naz was 12-2 in ESCC. Montini lost to 3 CCL schools. No idea how that worked out. Naz is bigger as well.