While I could possibly be the smartest and best looking on this forum, I can't understand...

[Original Mountaineer1]

how some of you can applaud every Trump move. Everyone without fail. If this board existed in 2009, I'd say the same about some of the lefties here.

I freely admit I am not a Trump fan. But since the election I have called out numerous occasions where I have agreed with him and disagreed. In fact if I thought about it, I'd probably tell you that I disagreed with Obama as much or more than I agreed with him. To me, that is the interesting aspect of politics. But maybe because of social media, we have become polarized to the point that friendships have been ruined, families don't speak, and co-workers argue. It is almost a gang mentality...."my gang is right and you suck" if your not part of my gang.

So to my point, I can't really even grasp how anyone on the right isn't at least a little worried about Steve Bannon. The dude is a nut job. He was considered a nut job when he joined Trump's campaign but nobody seemed to care because everyone thought Trump would lose and Bannon would crawl back into his hole. That didn't happen now it appears is Trump's most trusted advisor. While I never liked Trump, I never thought he was anything but immature. Now I have those same feelings except that he has now latched on to Bannon......

Without personal attacks, I'd really like to know if Bannon doesn't concern you and if so, why he doesn't.

 

[WVPATX]

how some of you can applaud every Trump move. Everyone without fail. If this board existed in 2009, I'd say the same about some of the lefties here.

I freely admit I am not a Trump fan. But since the election I have called out numerous occasions where I have agreed with him and disagreed. In fact if I thought about it, I'd probably tell you that I disagreed with Obama as much or more than I agreed with him. To me, that is the interesting aspect of politics. But maybe because of social media, we have become polarized to the point that friendships have been ruined, families don't speak, and co-workers argue. It is almost a gang mentality...."my gang is right and you suck" if your not part of my gang.

So to my point, I can't really even grasp how anyone on the right isn't at least a little worried about Steve Bannon. The dude is a nut job. He was considered a nut job when he joined Trump's campaign but nobody seemed to care because everyone thought Trump would lose and Bannon would crawl back into his hole. That didn't happen now it appears is Trump's most trusted advisor. While I never liked Trump, I never thought he was anything but immature. Now I have those same feelings except that he has now latched on to Bannon......

Without personal attacks, I'd really like to know if Bannon doesn't concern you and if so, why he doesn't.

I care much more about policy that the machinations behind the scenes. Many in the Obama Administration scared the daylights out of me. Jarrett for one. Eric Holder for another. Both I felt were radicals. And I felt Holder was a racist and still do.

On Trump, he was last on my list of 17 candidates. I voted for Rubio. But when it came down to Trump or Hillary, easy choice for me. I don't like Trump and have said so many, many times. I have listed his personal flaws. But I have decided to focus instead on policies.

The rollout of the 7 country ban was handled terribly. But the policy is one I support. When he does something, policy wise, that I disagree with, I will be right there with you. But so far, he has kept his promises and his policies are ones I support.

 

[bornaneer]

how some of you can applaud every Trump move. Everyone without fail. If this board existed in 2009, I'd say the same about some of the lefties here.

I freely admit I am not a Trump fan. But since the election I have called out numerous occasions where I have agreed with him and disagreed. In fact if I thought about it, I'd probably tell you that I disagreed with Obama as much or more than I agreed with him. To me, that is the interesting aspect of politics. But maybe because of social media, we have become polarized to the point that friendships have been ruined, families don't speak, and co-workers argue. It is almost a gang mentality...."my gang is right and you suck" if your not part of my gang.

So to my point, I can't really even grasp how anyone on the right isn't at least a little worried about Steve Bannon. The dude is a nut job. He was considered a nut job when he joined Trump's campaign but nobody seemed to care because everyone thought Trump would lose and Bannon would crawl back into his hole. That didn't happen now it appears is Trump's most trusted advisor. While I never liked Trump, I never thought he was anything but immature. Now I have those same feelings except that he has now latched on to Bannon......

Without personal attacks, I'd really like to know if Bannon doesn't concern you and if so, why he doesn't.

I don't applaud Trumps every move and have made light several times here of his mistakes. I don't know much about Bannon just like I didn't know much about many of the controversial people that President Obama associated with and had in his inner circle. As with Obama I'm willing to give Trump a chance to govern.

 

[TarHeelEer]

Without personal attacks, I'd really like to know if Bannon doesn't concern you and if so, why he doesn't.

Still too early to tell. He's only a week in, and has been fulfilling campaign promises left and right. Bannon has some questionable history, but for both Trump and Bannon to be demonized by the press and liberals this early on, yes, I'm going to defend.

 

[Original Mountaineer1]

I don't applaud Trumps every move and have made light several times here of his mistakes. I don't know much about Bannon just like I didn't many of the controversial people that President Obama associated with and had in his inner circle. As with Obama I'm willing to give Trump a chance to govern.

Me too. I just wish he hadn't attached himself to Bannon. Sort of like Obama's ties that that idiot pastor Wright

 

[WVPATX]

Me too. I just wish he hadn't attached himself to Bannon. Sort of like Obama's ties that that idiot pastor Wright

But Bannon is not President. Obama was President and sat in those pews for 20 years. Obama also had very close ties to Bill Ayers and Bernadette Dohrn and Franklin Marshall Davis (Uncle Frank in his book).

I think all administrations that bring out hatred in individual people. This is nothing new, imo.

 

[Original Mountaineer1]

But Bannon is not President. Obama was President and sat in those pews for 20 years. Obama also had very close ties to Bill Ayers and Bernadette Dohrn and Franklin Marshall Davis (Uncle Frank in his book).

I think all administrations that bring out hatred in individual people. This is nothing new, imo.

Pax, I know Bannon isn't President....But did Obama have any of those folks as his most senior advisor after he was elected? He actually distanced himself from Wright.

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

The thing that really amuses me is that if someone insults Trump, they take it so personal and get really defensive and angry. It's like he is their hero and they worship him.

 

[dave]

Without personal attacks, I'd really like to know if Bannon doesn't concern you and if so, why he doesn't.

Don't know enough about Bannon at this point. I have heard good and bad. The media isn't exactly trustworthy so I weigh that against everything else.

 

[Airport]

how some of you can applaud every Trump move. Everyone without fail. If this board existed in 2009, I'd say the same about some of the lefties here.

I freely admit I am not a Trump fan. But since the election I have called out numerous occasions where I have agreed with him and disagreed. In fact if I thought about it, I'd probably tell you that I disagreed with Obama as much or more than I agreed with him. To me, that is the interesting aspect of politics. But maybe because of social media, we have become polarized to the point that friendships have been ruined, families don't speak, and co-workers argue. It is almost a gang mentality...."my gang is right and you suck" if your not part of my gang.

So to my point, I can't really even grasp how anyone on the right isn't at least a little worried about Steve Bannon. The dude is a nut job. He was considered a nut job when he joined Trump's campaign but nobody seemed to care because everyone thought Trump would lose and Bannon would crawl back into his hole. That didn't happen now it appears is Trump's most trusted advisor. While I never liked Trump, I never thought he was anything but immature. Now I have those same feelings except that he has now latched on to Bannon......

Without personal attacks, I'd really like to know if Bannon doesn't concern you and if so, why he doesn't.

I never saw your response to me when you said I should only get half my social security when I only paid for half. I informed you that I was self employed and had paid $230,000 in matching SS, my staff and myself, alone since 2000. . ?

 

[WVPATX]

Pax, I know Bannon isn't President....But did Obama have any of those folks as his most senior advisor after he was elected? He actually distanced himself from Wright.

He had Jarrett and Holder. Both very close advisors and both radicals, even racists, imo. I was as afraid of them as you are of Bannon. These people exist in all Administrations. Moreover, Obama's background and people that greatly influenced him, also scared me to death. Especially with his motto to fundamentally change America. We didn't need a fundamental transformation. Changes, yes, transformation, no.

You think Jarrett and Holder are fine. I think Bannon is fine. We come at this from two very different view points.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

The thing that really amuses me is that if someone insults Trump, they take it so personal and get really defensive and angry. It's like he is their hero and they worship him.

This post really amuses me because of the previous behavior of the poster.

 

[WVex-pat in GA]

Don't know enough about Bannon at this point. I have heard good and bad. The media isn't exactly trustworthy so I weigh that against everything else.

dave, please explain how the media isn't trustworthy in regard to Bannon in particular.

 

[Original Mountaineer1]

He had Jarrett and Holder. Both very close advisors and both radicals, even racists, imo. I was as afraid of them as you are of Bannon. These people exist in all Administrations. Moreover, Obama's background and people that greatly influenced him, also scared me to death. Especially with his motto to fundamentally change America. We didn't need a fundamental transformation. Changes, yes, transformation, no.

You think Jarrett and Holder are fine. I think Bannon is fine. We come at this from two very different view points.

I gave up on Holder after his stance on Ferguson. However, he wasn't ridiculously liberal on all issues. from wiki As Attorney General, Holder was a staunch defender of the President's legal right to prosecute the War on Terror. In May 2011, Holder testified before Congress on the legality of the operation in which U.S. special forces killed Osama bin Laden earlier that month. Holder testified that the operation to kill bin Laden was legal, stating that international law allows for targeting enemy commanders. To support this point, Holder said that computer evidence seized from the raid demonstrated that bin Laden was still leading al-Qaeda. Moreover, Holder said, the Navy SEAL team that carried out the raid conducted itself in a manner consistent with American values, and that the parameters of the mission included capturing bin Laden. Definitely not the position of the far left there.

 

[WVex-pat in GA]

Don't know enough about Bannon at this point. I have heard good and bad. The media isn't exactly trustworthy so I weigh that against everything else.

He got his undergrad degree from VT... that should scare you enough right there! [laughing]

 

[Original Mountaineer1]

I never saw your response to me when you said I should only get half my social security when I only paid for half. I informed you that I was self employed and had paid $230,000 in matching SS, my staff and myself, alone since 2000. . ?

I didn't see it. My response was made thinking you were a lowly employee like myself. My apologies for calling you out in particular.

 

[Original Mountaineer1]

The thing that really amuses me is that if someone insults Trump, they take it so personal and get really defensive and angry. It's like he is their hero and they worship him.

Hell country, folks worshipped Obama, Reagan, Kennedy. Not sure anybody worshipped Carter, Ford, either Bush, or Clinton (except certain WH interns)

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

Hell country, folks worshipped Obama, Reagan, Kennedy. Not sure anybody worshipped Carter, Ford, either Bush, or Clinton (except certain WH interns)

Agree with the exception of the second Bush. Remember all the t-shirts with his face on them?

 

[WVPATX]

I gave up on Holder after his stance on Ferguson. However, he wasn't ridiculously liberal on all issues. from wiki As Attorney General, Holder was a staunch defender of the President's legal right to prosecute the War on Terror. In May 2011, Holder testified before Congress on the legality of the operation in which U.S. special forces killed Osama bin Laden earlier that month. Holder testified that the operation to kill bin Laden was legal, stating that international law allows for targeting enemy commanders. To support this point, Holder said that computer evidence seized from the raid demonstrated that bin Laden was still leading al-Qaeda. Moreover, Holder said, the Navy SEAL team that carried out the raid conducted itself in a manner consistent with American values, and that the parameters of the mission included capturing bin Laden. Definitely not the position of the far left there.

Again, I thought Jarrett and Holder to be radicals. Holder a racist. That is my opinion. His DOJ actions in Florida (Treyvon Martin,), Ferguson, Baltimore, etc. confirmed that opinion at least in my own mind. Jarrett is a socialist and SJW, imo. Again a radical choice.

Im sure you disagree that but is my opinion.

 

[WVPATX]

He got his undergrad degree from VT... that should scare you enough right there! [laughing]

He was a WV law school graduate, a very smart capable guy and an avowed liberal. He will do the job well.

 

[Original Mountaineer1]

Again, I thought Jarrett and Holder to be radicals. Holder a racist. That is my opinion. His DOJ actions in Florida (Treyvon Martin,), Ferguson, Baltimore, etc. confirmed that opinion at least in my own mind. Jarrett is a socialist and SJW, imo. Again a radical choice.

Im sure you disagree that but is my opinion.

I have no issue with you calling Holder a racist or at least an agitator. He obviously had no love for law enforcement. No fan of holder. But that was really my only gripe with him, although a HUGE one

 

[Original Mountaineer1]

He was a WV law school graduate, a very smart capable guy and an avowed liberal. He will do the job well.

Who went to WV Law?

 

[WVPATX]

Who went to WV Law?

The new head of WV's EPA equivalent

 

[bornaneer]

The thing that really amuses me is that if someone insults Trump, they take it so personal and get really defensive and angry. It's like he is their hero and they worship him.

Please tell me that you're joking about who takes it so personal and get really defensive and angry when the name Trump comes up.

 

[WVUCOOPER]

The new head of WV's EPA equivalent

He's also a Hokie.

 

[WVPATX]

He's also a Hokie.

Very true. But lives in Beckley, loves the state, very loyal. Lots of great West Virginians went to out of state schools. He'll do a great job.

 

[WVex-pat in GA]

He was a WV law school graduate, a very smart capable guy and an avowed liberal. He will do the job well.

Why do you insist on making stuff up? Alternative Facts?

Stephen Kevin Bannon was born on November 27, 1953, in Norfolk, Virginia, the son of Doris (Herr) and Martin Bannon, a telephone lineman.[26][27] His working class, Irish Catholic family were pro-Kennedy, pro-unionDemocrats.[28][29] He graduated from Virginia Tech in 1976 with a bachelor's degree in urban planning and holds a master's degree in National Security Studies from Georgetown University School of Foreign Service. In 1985,[31] Bannon received a Master of Business Administration degree with honors from Harvard Business School.[32]

 

[WVUCOOPER]

Why do you insist on making stuff up? Alternative Facts?

Stephen Kevin Bannon was born on November 27, 1953, in Norfolk, Virginia, the son of Doris (Herr) and Martin Bannon, a telephone lineman.[26][27] His working class, Irish Catholic family were pro-Kennedy, pro-unionDemocrats.[28][29] He graduated from Virginia Tech in 1976 with a bachelor's degree in urban planning and holds a master's degree in National Security Studies from Georgetown University School of Foreign Service. In 1985,[31] Bannon received a Master of Business Administration degree with honors from Harvard Business School.[32]

He's talking about Caperton going to WV Law, not that POS. PATZ doesn't internet too good.

 

[WVPATX]

Why do you insist on making stuff up? Alternative Facts?

Stephen Kevin Bannon was born on November 27, 1953, in Norfolk, Virginia, the son of Doris (Herr) and Martin Bannon, a telephone lineman.[26][27] His working class, Irish Catholic family were pro-Kennedy, pro-unionDemocrats.[28][29] He graduated from Virginia Tech in 1976 with a bachelor's degree in urban planning and holds a master's degree in National Security Studies from Georgetown University School of Foreign Service. In 1985,[31] Bannon received a Master of Business Administration degree with honors from Harvard Business School.[32]

What the hell are you talking about?

http://wvmetronews.com/2017/01/13/c...ton-caperton-to-oversee-environmental-agency/

 

[WVex-pat in GA]

He's talking about Caperton going to WV Law, not that POS.

My comment was about Bannon. WVPATX needs to focus more. Perhaps it's ADHD or not enough coffee.

 

[WVUCOOPER]

What the hell are you talking about?

http://wvmetronews.com/2017/01/13/c...ton-caperton-to-oversee-environmental-agency/

Read gooder. That GA guy said Bannon was a POS Hokie and you responded that Caperton went to WV Law. Hence the reason for the confusion.

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

Very true. But lives in Beckley, loves the state, very loyal. Lots of great West Virginians went to out of state schools. He'll do a great job.

It's WV DEP and his title is Secretary. His family owns Slab Fork Coal.

Conflict of interest? Both the Governor and the Secretary of the WV DEP own coal mining companies. Hmmm. Good ole WV.

 

[WVex-pat in GA]

What the hell are you talking about?

http://wvmetronews.com/2017/01/13/c...ton-caperton-to-oversee-environmental-agency/

What the hell are you talking about? My comment was about Bannon. Either keep up with the game or take a seat on the sidelines.

 

[WVUCOOPER]

It's WV DEP and his title is Secretary. His family owns Slab Fork Coal.

Conflict of interest? Both the Governor and the Secretary of the WV DEP own coal mining companies. Hmmm. Good ole WV.

PATX called the dude an environmentalist in a diff thread.

 

[WVPATX]

Read gooder. That GA guy said Bannon was a POS Hokie and you responded that Caperton went to WV Law. Hence the reason for the confusion.

You knew exactly who I was posting about. Don't feign ignorance now. The poster did not follow your back and forth with me over this issue and you blame me?

 

[WVUCOOPER]

You knew exactly who I was posting about. Don't feign ignorance now. The poster did not follow your back and forth with me over this issue and you blame me?

I hadn't read the earlier part, just saw you passing that Hokie off as a Mountaineer. Chillax brah.

 

[WVPATX]

What the hell are you talking about? My comment was about Bannon. Either keep up with the game or take a seat on the sidelines.

You clearly did not read the back and forth between Coop and me. You pulled Bannon out of clear air as far as I was concerned. Go back and read the thread. Your Bannon comment made zero sense to me since I was talking about WV's new EPA head.

 

[WVUCOOPER]

You clearly did not read the back and forth between Coop and me. You pulled Bannon out of clear air as far as I was concerned. Go back and read the thread. Your Bannon comment made zero sense to me since I was talking about WV's new EPA head.

Actually, GA said he didn't trust Bannon cause he was a hokie first. You responded to that post by saying "He was a WV law school graduate, a very smart capable guy and an avowed liberal. He will do the job well." By "he" you meant Caperton, even though GA was clearly referring to Bannon's time at VT. Later I jumped in and murkied things.

 

[WVex-pat in GA]

You clearly did not read the back and forth between Coop and me. You pulled Bannon out of clear air as far as I was concerned. Go back and read the thread. Your Bannon comment made zero sense to me since I was talking about WV's new EPA head.

Go back and look at the posts, you quoted my response to dave who said he didn't know much about Bannon. I quoted dave's post and commented that he has a VT undergrad degree (the post you quoted in your response). You are obviously confused and also unable to admit that you are wrong. That tells volumes.

 

[WVPATX]

I hadn't read the earlier part, just saw you passing that Hokie off as a Mountaineer. Chillax brah.

When someone gets called out they react. I assume you do as well. The strange part is that you were part of a two person conversation. Hard to forget that.