Who did the worst coaching job in the SEC this year?
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it doesn't matter what name is on your chest if you've only been at a school for a year and you have 2 players. Gameplanning for them is easy. Faceguard Meeks and sag everyone into the lane. Darius Miller and co. have a hard time beating you from the outside.
I've got to go with Gottfried. Its pretty obvious that team wasn't that bad.
I've got to go with Gottfried. Its pretty obvious that team wasn't that bad.
UPig replaced all 5 starters from last year, 3 spots went to Freshman...they have 8 Freshman on their roster, making the the youngest team in the SEC...Pelphrey should contend in the West next year- if he doesnt, then you can get on his ***....
We were better than Kentucky at 3 of the 5 positions on the court, and it was close between Patterson and Swat....Gillespie better get some players in, and soon
I'd go with Gottfried as well- his job was on the line and he didnt respond, runner-up was Felton</p>
Actually, in a down SEC, there were some good coaching jobs done this season- especially at LSU, Auburn, SC, and Mississippi</p>
We were better than Kentucky at 3 of the 5 positions on the court, and it was close between Patterson and Swat....Gillespie better get some players in, and soon
I'd go with Gottfried as well- his job was on the line and he didnt respond, runner-up was Felton</p>
Actually, in a down SEC, there were some good coaching jobs done this season- especially at LSU, Auburn, SC, and Mississippi</p>
We did lose 3 of our top six players this season. And please don't hijack this thread with your Stansbury bashing BS. Also you are completely full of crap if you think Pelphrey did a good job this year. Give Stansbury that SEC record and you and everyone else would be howling for his job even if he was starting a team full of 9th graders.
who probably has more upside than Warren. Don't act like they replaced what they had with SWAC talent. Most people just expected they'd send it in the rest of the season and when they didn't, Kennedy was a genius. Well, he had the 3rd worst overall record in the SEC. That's one brilliant job he did there.
we didnt lose 3 of our top 6 players that started for us in November....Gordon and Hansbrough didnt blow their knees out for us in November and December...******** argument...
Nobody is bashing Stansbury in this thread...i didnt even mention him- you did
Nobody is bashing Stansbury in this thread...i didnt even mention him- you did
Since winning two titles, Eddie Munster has not exactly set the world on fire. He has talented players like Calathes, Tyus, and Parsons but they are not producing as a team. If you want to look at specific games, the USC loss on the breakout with two seconds left is all on Donovan. And there is no excuse for losing to UGA when you are fighting to win the East and make the tournament. All in all, I'd have to say Donovan has done a bad job this year.
for a guy that went 2-14 in a down year for the conference. The same guy you were praising after he beat OU and Texas.
Unless the coach is donig a crappy job, a team that can beat the no. 5 team in the rpi ought to be able to win more than two conference games.
Unless the coach is donig a crappy job, a team that can beat the no. 5 team in the rpi ought to be able to win more than two conference games.
he did a great job. And before the season would you have said Terrico had more upside than Warren? No. He had offers from us, Arky and Valparaiso. That's it. Plus he'd never played point guard before. Which he did for 90% of the time this year.
MSU could lose it's 5 starters to the NBA and we wouldn't go 2-14 in the SEC. You will never see that. I think the year after Roberts graduated we were like 4-14 or 5-11 in the SEC and 15-15 overall. Arkansas was horrible this year.
then you have to say that Ole Miss lost their top 6 players. Warren, Poly, Gaskins, Curtis, Williams and Parnell. I really don't want to start a MSU/ Ole Miss pissing contest because I respect this site but counting players that left or graduated is comical.
Stans was middle of the road in coaching this year, about what we come to expect from him. If we would have stayed Big all season and played Kodi and Osby more instead of relying on 3 pointers, then I would say we had done a little better than middle of the pack.[b said:
Worst coaching job... Gotfried, that's an easy one.. He got fired...
Next Billy G., then Billy D.
I think Horn and Johnson are both good coaches, but I wouldn't necessarily say they did anything extraordinary with their performances this year. They both had veteran clubs in a bad league full of young teams. I think they both had pretty easy jobs this year. I think Lebo should have been coach of the year this year. Yeah, he also had a veteran team, but no one expected anything from them. I also agree with D@A that Donovan has to be at the top of the list for worst coaching performance this year.
we may have one, but I don't know who it is. And I'm not the one who came up with the list of youngest teams. I believe it also took playing time into account, or starting or something. Now I'll have to find it again.
That guy is the reason that they win ballgames. They have some other nice players as well, but if you stop him, you stop the Cocks. If he wasn' there next year, they wouldnt' be a factor in the east. Horn was fortunate to have him when he came on board. Also, South Carolina was a pretty decent team that barely missed the NCAA's the past two seasons. I get tired of people saying how good Horn is as a coach. The jury is really still way out on him. I'm not attacking anyone on this board for maybe saying that he is. It's just my opinion.
17.7 ppg
5.2 rpg
6.4 apg
2 steals pg
49% from the floor
71% from the line
1.97 assist to turnover
There's nothing pretty or flashy about his game save the occasional great no look pass, but he gets the job done.
That being said, I think UF would have been better with Jai Lucas on the point and Calathes at the 2. Parsons and Werner underachieved but would have been my 3 and 4 men in this lineup, with Tyus at the 5. Erving Walker, Hodge and Kadji would have rounded out the rotation.
5.2 rpg
6.4 apg
2 steals pg
49% from the floor
71% from the line
1.97 assist to turnover
There's nothing pretty or flashy about his game save the occasional great no look pass, but he gets the job done.
That being said, I think UF would have been better with Jai Lucas on the point and Calathes at the 2. Parsons and Werner underachieved but would have been my 3 and 4 men in this lineup, with Tyus at the 5. Erving Walker, Hodge and Kadji would have rounded out the rotation.
and South Carolina was 14-18 last year, 5-10 in conference with Downey playing at the same level. Some of that can certainly be attributed to a down conference, but some of it should attributed to Horn as well. He did a good job this season.
Maybe even better. Who knows?
I think AK is good coach, but the praise he receives on this board is undeserved in my opinion. He's never had a winning record in the SEC, yet to some on here, he's much better than Stans. Injuries are a part of the game. So are transfers, this day and age. We lost 2 of our better players too after last season. 3, including Chuck. And although it's not the exact same as losing players to injury, it most certainly is comparable. We were supposed to be in full rebuilding mode and still managed a winning SEC record and 19 wins overall heading into the SECT, yet Stans doesn't get the same leeway that AK does. That's what amazes me.</p>
I think AK is good coach, but the praise he receives on this board is undeserved in my opinion. He's never had a winning record in the SEC, yet to some on here, he's much better than Stans. Injuries are a part of the game. So are transfers, this day and age. We lost 2 of our better players too after last season. 3, including Chuck. And although it's not the exact same as losing players to injury, it most certainly is comparable. We were supposed to be in full rebuilding mode and still managed a winning SEC record and 19 wins overall heading into the SECT, yet Stans doesn't get the same leeway that AK does. That's what amazes me.</p>
Coach34 said:
So you count walk ons?
Here is the ranking, from Ken Pomeroy.
Experience Ranking
I can't remember how he did it, but I think it was basically the number of letters earned by returning players, divided by the total number of players, something like that. We had no senior scholarship players.
Arkansas is right down there with us, but we're dead last in the ranking, and that ranking does not include the injuries that took away half of our returning lettermen.
Stans had his team coming into this year. Kennedy had his. Kennedy lost his 2nd and 3rd best players and a key bench player. Stans lost no one until the last week of the season.
Referencing Gordon, Rhodes and hans is irrelevant to the discussion.
I really doubt we beat Ark at home, Ole Miss on the road, Bama at home, or South Carolina at home without the 3 I just mentioned.
9 SEC wins was a pretty good job, but on the season, we still lost 5 games we shouldn't have. You always lose some you shouldn't, but 5 is just too damn many.
Referencing Gordon, Rhodes and hans is irrelevant to the discussion.
I really doubt we beat Ark at home, Ole Miss on the road, Bama at home, or South Carolina at home without the 3 I just mentioned.
9 SEC wins was a pretty good job, but on the season, we still lost 5 games we shouldn't have. You always lose some you shouldn't, but 5 is just too damn many.
Terrico White had coming into this season. Hell, Dee Bost's only other 2 offers were Va Tech and Miami, so I'd say it's arguable who had the more impressive list of offers between the two of them. The fact is, he turned out to be the Freshmen POY, which he wouldn't have had a chance to do if Warren had not got hurt. So don't act like AK was just running some scrubs out there every game and had these brilliant game plans that make him some kind of a genius. He has good talent. That's why y'all won a few games this year. Like I've said, AK is a good coach, but the love fest on this board for him is unfounded. He may turn out to be the next Roy Williams, but in 3 seasons, he hasn't had one winning SEC record. To me, that's just not that impressive.
They also didn't have the injury bug hit them. Who knows how the Fortson situation will turn out. He and Pel obviously don't see eye to eye. That kid might turn out to be a 3 time All-SEC or he might transfer out after this season. I see them being about a 7-9 or 6-10 SEC team next year. They have no inside presence and fortson can't shoot. Sanchez is horrible and Washington is inconsistent, but a talent. Their best all around player is Welsh and he's a junior this year and I don't believe he even made 3rd team All-SEC. I don't see it.