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First of all "who's wrong" is the jackass airlines for designing seat layouts with no regard for comfort, just how many people the can cram onto the plane.

In this instance if the man has an issue with the seat he should notify the flight attendant and ask her to intercede.
 
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nerdcat said:
Only a**wipes recline on a plane. I’m tall. I get in position with my knees on the back of the chair. No reclining.
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The dude didn't handle it very well but the lady went on some over the top reaction, filing lawsuits, claiming BS like whiplash and injuries from him punching on her before he started in on the seat. Obviously no recording of that but surely it's a BS injury claim filed by some ambulance chaser lawyer who saw the video.

That being said. it should be an unwritten rule of courtesy on a plane that if somebody is seated behind you, especially when you're in the back of the plane in economy seats where the legroom is abysmal to begin with, that you suck it up and don't recline. just a common courtesy to the people behind you. if nobody is seated behind you by all means lean it back. i just had to deal with a recliner in front of me just last week on a flight home from Chicago. of course i was internally wizzed but chose to take the high road and accept it. but the seat was back to a point the tray table was in my gut and my cup wouldn't set in the little recessed circle on the tray. not that that matters, but just shows how useless it makes the tray for the person behind you when you recline.

Seats on busses or trains don't typically recline, why should they on a plane. Maybe reserve reclining for first class, or the preferred seating with the extra legroom and can it for the cheaper seats.
 
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Get Buckets

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If I get the sense that the person in front of me is going to attempt to recline I tap on their shoulder and tell them there isn’t room.
 
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[laughing] @ this macho ********. There is zero chance you've ever uttered the words "get pumped" (or the more common version, "get ****ed") to some stranger on a plane.
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You’re right. It was a figure of speech. I would - and I have - said “purchase a better seat”. But I usually fly in first so this is kind of a moot point.
 
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1. I was taught as a child that it’s rude to recline on planes if people are seated behind you, so I never did it.

2. If you’re flying coach, it’s not much of a recline anyway.

3. I’m tall, so most people who recline In front of me feel their seat hit my knees and politely ease back up. Other tall dudes understand. Women, children, and short guys have no clue how rude that is.

In this situation, both were wrong. The guy for throwing a tantrum and the lady for also tantruming.
 
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I'd say that he is wrong and just being a dick. Politely ask the lady sitting in front of him to not recline her seat would be the best way to handle it. If she says yes great! If she says no then you just have to drin and bare it for the duration of the flight.
 
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Deeeefense said:
First of all "who's wrong" is the jackass airlines for designing seat layouts with no regard for comfort, just how many people the can cram onto the plane.

In this instance if the man has an issue with the seat he should notify the flight attendant and ask her to intercede.
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Can't believe I'm gonna say this, but for once, I agree (at least partially) with Deeeeeeeeeeeeefence:grimace:. It's really the airlines that I believe throw this little societal experiment at their customers that are at fault at a fundamental level.

Now, as far as this scenario goes, I ultimately have to side with the woman on this (more painful than agreeing with Deeeeeeeeeeeeeeefence:grimace:). The lady was an Alpha. Her seat could recline. No law says that she can't, so she did. She put herself first and made herself comfortable at the expense of someone else. She's probably got narcissistic personality disorder (more on that later).

The dude was a clear passive-aggressive beta. He committed whatever sin that ended him up sitting in the last row with now recline and **** smells coming from the toilet all flight. Next, instead of firmly, but politely asking the lady to adjust her seat, he starts punching it like a skinny kid that gets beat up a lot.

The lady shows her narcissistic personality disorder by filming the incident, filing lawsuits and what not. Making everything - once again - about her.

The seat reclining mechanisms are probably just left in place as a way for the flight attendants to have some fun watching people and making bets.
 
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Get Bucket$ said:
If I get the sense that the person in front of me is going to attempt to recline I tap on their shoulder and tell them there isn’t room.
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Good grief. That's not your call chief. Then make room, because that "room" belongs to the seat, not you.
 
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Didnt read all the posts, just skimmed through....but
I'm 6'6" ,and what little I fly, I always try to get the emergency exit row for extra leg room. I'm not a recliner either out of respect for the person behind me....unless they're short. IMO it's rude.
She was rude
He was an idiot
And anybody that thinks a President causes people to be a dick is a bigger idiot.
 
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I’m 6’2” and fly nearly every week for work, so I understand the pain of economy seats. Particularly if I have to fly on a regional jet.

But at the end of the day, the fact that my legs don’t fit is my problem to deal with, not the person in front of me. It’s not right for me to impose myself upon the person whose seat is in front of mine. If I don’t want to deal with it, then it’s on me to grab an exit row seat or upgrade to economy plus or business class.

It’s no different than when folks who are severely overweight fly and can’t fit in a narrow economy seat. It’s cruel that they have to endure that and I sympathize with them, but at some point they simply have to pay for more space. It would not be right of them to grab a middle seat and expect the folks to their left and right to forego their use of the armrest simply because they need them to be folded up in order to fit in the seat.

That said, for those of you who refrain from reclining in economy, I do want to say thank you. I recognize that you’re doing tall people a favor and that’s very kind of you.
 
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UKnCincy said:
I’m 6’2” and fly nearly every week for work, so I understand the pain of economy seats. Particularly if I have to fly on a regional jet.

But at the end of the day, the fact that my legs don’t fit is my problem to deal with, not the person in front of me. It’s not right for me to impose myself upon the person whose seat is in front of mine. If I don’t want to deal with it, then it’s on me to grab an exit row seat or upgrade to economy plus or business class.

It’s no different than when folks who are severely overweight fly and can’t fit in a narrow economy seat. It’s cruel that they have to endure that and I sympathize with them, but at some point they simply have to pay for more space. It would not be right of them to grab a middle seat and expect the folks to their left and right to forego their use of the armrest simply because they need them to be folded up in order to fit in the seat.

That said, for those of you who refrain from reclining in economy, I do want to say thank you. I recognize that you’re doing tall people a favor and that’s very kind of you.
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i wish i could like this post 100 times!
you would not buy a car, a kitchen chair, or a pair of pants that do not fit. why buy a seat that does not fit and then expect everyone around you to placate you?
you are correct about the width too. some folks are obese but some are simply large framed. wife and i on a regional jet from ATL to RDU. i am aisle, her middle, and the window passenger had to be or have been a defensive end. ~6'4", ~280 and no fat, just wide. his shoulder was against the fuselage and his left shoulder was half in the middle seat. we survived in coach and no one was a richard.
 
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I have a couple of reclining stories, both in economy and on flights to Europe:

1) I recline. Guy in back taps my shoulder and asks me not to because he is on his device. Now, I dont agree with this reasoning but for some reason was in a good mood and said OK. Fast forward about an hour later I walk back past him and he's got his own seat reclined despite the fact that the guy behind him was on a device. When I got back to my seat I shot it back on full recline and and waited for him to say something. It didnt come immediately, but fairly soon he asked me again to not recline. I politely said I didnt think i would this time, and told him exactly why.

2) On a flight from England to the USA, I reclined my seat and this fat English guy with a snotty little kid sitting next to him didnt ask, but TOLD me very rudely, ,not to recline. I asked why. He was not on any device and there seemed to be no reason. He wasnt very tall, just a bit overweight. So I politely said that I was going to try to sleep and and needed to recline to do so, and that he might consider reclining his own seat. We were both in the middle of rows and rows of reclinable seats. He got upset and got a stewardess. She sided with me. He didnt like that and started kicking my seat repeatedly like a spoiled child. I stood up , walked back next to him in the aisle, leaned down, and told him that if he didnt stop the kicking, we would sort this out at the gate after we deplaned. It stopped and he wouldn't even make eye contact with me after that.
 
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I'm reclining as soon as the plane takes off.

My comfort > you having your tablet playing Flip or Flop 3 inches closer to your face.
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So you are the one who I get to slam my hip into the back of their seat as I go to the head. Cool. I hope you are dozing when I do that or have a drink in your hand.
 
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False. You would be told to put your nasty feet down.

You guys are hysterical, though. All this **** you'll do on an airline (you won't) because you're triggered by a seat recline. I used to only recline on flights over an hour or so but going all-in and will have the phone handy to record your stupid *** getting dragged off the plane.
 
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