Who is your SEC coach of the year?
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I agree with Booger McFarland
It's either Stoops or Derek Mason
It's either Stoops or Derek Mason
No love for McElwain? He did win the SEC East with an extra road game. I think Stoops did an incredible job and wouldn't be a shock if he won it, but I think McElwain has a decent shot too. His best win is @LSU, so I could see how that may turn people away though.
Saban. 12-0 in the West with non conference win over USC is tough to top.
Coming from one of Stoops' doubters...Mark Stoops deserves it if you want to look at what has happened from game 1 to game 12. But it is hard to argue against 12-0. To be fair, if the average CFB P5 coach had a Bama recruiting class every year, they would probably not have a hard time winning either. Hard to argue against his resume though.
CMS is the choice far and wide. Whether politics and internal pressures affect that choice remains to be seen.
If Stoops does get SEC COY than our history buffs need to get busy finding out when was the last time a Kentucky coach received the award. I know Curry got it the year he arrived here but that was based on his last season with BAMA.
If give Kudos to Mason also for knocking off Ole Miss and UT to get bowl eligible. Muscy deserves a high five or two as well.
If give Kudos to Mason also for knocking off Ole Miss and UT to get bowl eligible. Muscy deserves a high five or two as well.
1983, Jerry Claiborne tied with Billy Brewer of Ole Miss. Claiborne tied for the honor with a season record of 6-5-1 that year.
Saban...it's not even close. Stoops gets a top 4 honorable mention, along with McIlwain, Mason, and possibly Orgeron? But Bama is the gold standard in college football..not just the SEC.
I think it depends on what metric you use. I think COY should go to a guy that overachieved the most. Bama maybe overachieved a little, but nothing like Kentucky did.
Didn't Brooks win a couple SEC COY from various newspapers? I know he didn't win the "official" one.
Sure, the criteria determines everything. The way I look at it, is Saban is the John Calipari of college football. Yeah, he has great players, but that's because his success gives him the opportunity to recruit the best. That has to be part of the equation IMHO...ie., Cal should be SEC COY most years because of the overwhelming success he's had. Same with Saban.
Stoops, biggest turnaround of the year. Not an easy task, especially at KENTUCKY!!
Awards should go to winners. Saban has won more than anyone.
There should really only be two candidates every year and that's the coach of each division winner.
Everyone has an argument if you want to start dabbling in the gray area of "well this coach had x,y,z, going against him..."
Big Ed, Malzahn, Mason, Stoops...and on and on...every coach and program can say "look what we did given the circumstances..." and provide some sort of woe is me sob story...
Same in basketball. Cal wins with freshmen, I don't want to hear about a great job by somebody who struggled to keep their head above water in conference and barely made it to the bubble in march.
There should really only be two candidates every year and that's the coach of each division winner.
Everyone has an argument if you want to start dabbling in the gray area of "well this coach had x,y,z, going against him..."
Big Ed, Malzahn, Mason, Stoops...and on and on...every coach and program can say "look what we did given the circumstances..." and provide some sort of woe is me sob story...
Same in basketball. Cal wins with freshmen, I don't want to hear about a great job by somebody who struggled to keep their head above water in conference and barely made it to the bubble in march.
For me my biggest winner was butch Jones!!![winking]
P.S. Stoops did a great job turning this ship around. But Saban had a tough schedule and did a great job as well. Yes he has more talent to work with,but stoops had more talent then usm. AL started a freshman QB which puts it at another level. (Pulling off a undefeated season)
Unless it's the leading Heisman candidate with 9 pics & double-digit fumbles on the year, 1-3 vs teams with a winning record and blew a home game as a 28 point fav.
Then, you're a lock.
So if Stoops got UK to 9-3 this season you'd still be giving the COY to Saban or Mac? That'd be insane
Saban. Not sure why anyone else would get it. It goes to the best coach of the conference of the year, which is clearly Saban.
Saban hasn't won it since 2009. This award (right or wrong) usually goes to the perceived best coaching job/most surprising coaching job.
Plenty of 3-4-5 loss coaches have won this in the past.
Plenty of 3-4-5 loss coaches have won this in the past.
Hard to argue against Stoops considering where UK was the first game and the last game, definitely made the most progress of any team in the SEC. From losing to a group of 5 team in the first game go beating a playoff contender in the last game is quite an accomplisment for UK and Stoops.. No one else did much of anything to deserver consideration, other than Saban's 12-0. Oh yeah, if I say anything that offends anyone I do apologize because I have a cold and have been drinking cough medicine all afternoon., I think the coughing has subsided but I want to be sure.
Like I said, the coach of each division leader both have a claim.
9-3 and going to Atlanta, sure, CMS would have a pretty good case.
I also realize that the award often time goes to the biggest surprise as more of a "most improved" or "congratulations you've made the leap from outside doormat to hallway rug", but those should be rare and extraordinary exceptions and not the rule.
A true Coach of the Year, should be one who elevated his players in all phases, football, academics, and personal growth. Therefore I has to be Butch Jones...his players are champions of "LIFE". How can you not vote for him? lol
The SEC Coach of the Year is Saban. Not even close. But McElwain and Stoops will probably get some votes. I don't see Muschamp getting votes. How could anyone give their vote to Muschamp over Stoops?
I disagree. Saban won what he was supposed to win. He in no way overachieved. Give his roster to any other SEC coach and most of them would win no less than 10 games.
I'm not sure how you don't give it to Saban this year. SEC was basically Alabama and the 13 dwarfs this season.
Even when they do go the "most improved/surprising" route, it's typically a 10+ win team. And all of zero 10 win (or even 9 win!) teams in the SEC outside of Alabama ... which is kind of crazy to think about.
Even when they do go the "most improved/surprising" route, it's typically a 10+ win team. And all of zero 10 win (or even 9 win!) teams in the SEC outside of Alabama ... which is kind of crazy to think about.
This is misleading revisionist history. Saban took over from Mike Shula at Alabama in 2007. Shula's record was 6-6 in 2006, but Alabama was forced to vacate the 2006 season because of NCAA infractions. So Saban took over an Alabama program in big trouble. Since then, Saban has been the nation's best recruiter. He rebuilt Alabama's roster up from the 6-6 team that it was before he got there. He is winning championships now because he recruited and developed the nation's best roster. This year, Saban had to replace his starting quarterback, Heisman Trophy running back, and a bunch of key early departures from his defense. But this is his best team yet. Saban is easily the SEC and NCAA Coach of the Year. But Mark Stoops ought to receive a vote or 2.
Wow I never even thought about that one! He will definitely get votes but this is a difficult one! Especially with Bama at 12-0! When is it announced?
http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/awards/sec-coy.htmlHere is what they have done in the past, 2 times a 7-5 coach won! Nutt in 2006 with Arkansas and Spurrier in 2010 at South Carolina!
To me, I guess coach of the year means someone who exceeded expectations and did more than was thought possible with the given roster. No doubt, based on recruiting, Saban would be the coach of the year every year. Same with Cal at UK.
I, in no way, see how Saban coached his team to a better than expected outcome. When you recruit the best every year, you are expected to be the best every year.
I dunno its kinda like Cal in the SEC basketball. If they gave it to him every year it would get boring. At least this way the rest of the league has something to strive for.
I say Stoops over Mason and here's why. Stoops won head to head. Stoops finished ahead of Mason in SEC standings. Stoops won 4 sec games, Mason only 3. Stoops beat the 11th ranked team on the road with Heisman trophy candidate behind center. Don't get me wrong, I think Mason did a heck of a job at Vandy, but he also lost to a sec winless team in Mizzou.
That's why I believe Stoops gets it over Mason.
That's why I believe Stoops gets it over Mason.