Who killed JonBenet Ramsey?

Who do you think killed JonBenet?


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Get Buckets

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The sheer bizarreness and absurdity of the ransom note to me makes its clear-cut that it was not an intruder. That has to be one of the most bizarre things in a crime scene I've ever seen. It was so strange that it completely caused all the police and investigators to lose functioning ability apparently. How they could have gone almost 5 months without questioning the parents is so weird.

Neatly laid out on the back stair case, pen and pad from in the house, pen and pad placed back in proper place, three to four pages, practice versions placed in the trash can.

Yep, sounds like a middle of the night intruder to me.
 

Bill Derington

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The sheer bizarreness and absurdity of the ransom note to me makes its clear-cut that it was not an intruder. That has to be one of the most bizarre things in a crime scene I've ever seen. It was so strange that it completely caused all the police and investigators to lose functioning ability apparently. How they could have gone almost 5 months without questioning the parents is so weird.

That's part of the problem for me why the parents were a involved.
It's not that the police didn't want to talk to them, they wouldn't talk to the police, and the DA insisted the police treat them with kid gloves.
If you're a parent and your kid is murdered, and found in your home you're going to at least initially be a person of interest. To clear that up so the killer can be caught you interview with the police as soon as emotionally possible.
 
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Grand jury voted to indict the Ramsey's but the District Attorney did't follow through. Burke killed her and the parents covered it up. Burke was one missed up child.
 

ThwKentuckyKid

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Father of a high-functioning autistic daughter here. Autistic children can get upset over trivial things, but lashing out in violence is not even in my daughter's skillset.
My son has high functioning autism also, he doesn't get violent, but if you've met one person with autism, you've met one person with autism. I've worked in the field for about 8 years and have met some that would rip your face off over nothing.
 
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Was she sexually assaulted? And if so what did the autopsy report say about when the assault occurred? Before or after she was dead?
 

Bill Derington

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Was she sexually assaulted? And if so what did the autopsy report say about when the assault occurred? Before or after she was dead?

She wasn't, one Dr said her vaginal irritation was from not properly wiping after urinating, which if you have daughters you know at a young age that's fairly common. The Dr on the CBS show said that it was so minor that if she had been it was staging after she was dead, but in his opinion she hadn't been.
 
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So let's hear your take on what happened. Amateur analysis welcome.
 

KopiKat

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To suspect that the family is responsible for the death of JonBenet you really have to accept that they were very skilled in some areas of cover-up. Particularly in calling as many people to the house as possible. This would be what the ransom and note were FOR. Without those two components, there would have been no avenue for immediately bringing as many people to the house to cross-contaminate the crime scene.

How could the Ramsey's have picked up the phone and called their friends and said "my daughter is missing, get over here" when those friends likely may have replied, "wouldn't you rather have me out looking for her somewhere?" No, that situation would have been ever more suspicious toward the Ramsey parents. So the ransom note had to happen. In order to get a bunch of people into the house two things had to be established: (1) JonBonet was missing and (2) taken with intention.

The media has greatly exaggerated the 118,000 dollars demanded by the note as too much of a coincidence, as that amount John had only recently received in bonus money. However, that too was a very clever play - if, indeed, the note was written by Patsy - because it only helped to give the appearance that the Ramsey's were constructively targeted, and another element within the ransom note to make the initial response about IT, about waiting for a phone call that is never going to happen, and not about the house, not about a body in the basement that has already been moved and, if all goes according to plan, will be moved again . . . right smack dab in the middle of all those people.
 
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Lawyer representing Burke Ramsey has said that he will soon be filling a lawsuit against CBS for the lies and misrepresentation over Suggesting that Burke was the
killer.
 

JHB4UK

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Lawyer representing Burke Ramsey has said that he will soon be filling a lawsuit against CBS for the lies and misrepresentation over Suggesting that Burke was the
killer.
told y'all that would happen.

forget the case or your opinions of what happened, CBS will settle & pay big. so irresponsible for a national network tv station to do that, let amateur part time sleuths put on an incomplete 'case' show and say a brother murdered his sister 20 years ago.
 

UK_Dallas

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CBS doesn't have much to worry about IMO. No way does Burke or his lawyer want this to go to trial. He will have to answer questions then. They might offer him a few bucks because I'm sure they made a huge amount on it.
 
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ThwKentuckyKid

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The show was so poorly done, it reminded me of that Finding Bigfoot show. They would present evidence and come up with one theory, without exploring other options.
 
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TortElvisII

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The show was so poorly done, it reminded me of that Finding Bigfoot show. They would present evidence and come up with one theory, without exploring other options.

I respected you until you trashed Finding Bigfoot. By the way, it seems Squatchy in here.
 

TortElvisII

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told y'all that would happen.

forget the case or your opinions of what happened, CBS will settle & pay big. so irresponsible for a national network tv station to do that, let amateur part time sleuths put on an incomplete 'case' show and say a brother murdered his sister 20 years ago.

Amateur's from the FBI, Scotland Yard, Henry Lee, and Spitz (sp)?
 
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Get Buckets

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told y'all that would happen.

forget the case or your opinions of what happened, CBS will settle & pay big. so irresponsible for a national network tv station to do that, let amateur part time sleuths put on an incomplete 'case' show and say a brother murdered his sister 20 years ago.
[eyeroll]
 
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KopiKat

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No way does Burke or his lawyer want this to go to trial. He will have to answer questions then.

So? If you had committed a crime, even a heinous crime, at the age of 9 or 10, do you not think you could answer questions about it twenty years later, and successfully manage those questions from the distorted recollection of small child? The Phil interview has the public agreeing on one thing: Burke has a screw loose. Advantage: Burke. CBS will pay big. Burke Ramsey's pay days are here to stay.
 

Bkocats

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I believe the brother did it
I also believe his goofy act is just that.....an act.
Burke, IMO (and I'm no mental health specialist) shows psychopathic tendencies - especially with the violence, and, I believe, he's pathological liar. Might explain why he hasn't been shaken from his story for years

Just an opinion, could be way off
 

UK_Dallas

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So? If you had committed a crime, even a heinous crime, at the age of 9 or 10, do you not think you could answer questions about it twenty years later, and successfully manage those questions from the distorted recollection of small child? The Phil interview has the public agreeing on one thing: Burke has a screw loose. Advantage: Burke. CBS will pay big. Burke Ramsey's pay days are here to stay.
Depositions are a different animal I believe. He would have to answer questions that he wouldn't face if it went to trial. Questions he would have faced from police. No way he or his lawyers want that. This is just posturing.
 

UKserialkiller

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I didn't even know she had a brother until this all this JonBenet **** starting showing on TV. His name is "Burke". Buddy if that doesn't scream red flag, I don't know what to tell ya.

Burke. What a first name. Burke. GD. He definitely has a punchable face. After Z's sherlocking, I am convinced that this sociopath was 100% responsible. Bet you has killed before. Look at him. He looks insane and his name is Burke. Serial killer.
 
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Supreme Lord Z

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Neatly laid out on the back stair case, pen and pad from in the house, pen and pad placed back in proper place, three to four pages, practice versions placed in the trash can.
You forgot the most damning point, handwriting match to Patsy.

Yep. Intruder.
 

Supreme Lord Z

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Please note, handwriting mimicked to match Patsy.
There comes a time when stupid has snowballed to the point it becomes full retard giant shitball to the bed stupid. You're Burking all the Christmas presents at this point. Burke may have to flashlight you to the head to get you back to your senses.
 

Supreme Lord Z

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Thanks. You are the expert in this regard. Please advise.
Okay. If you're going to try and frame the mother of a child you are breaking into a house to kidnap and ransom but instead wind up killing the child and you decide for some incomprehensible reason to try and frame the mother by writing your ransom note "mimicking" the mother's writing, then just don't write a note at all. Because it makes no sense to do so. Especially a 3 page one plus a practice note that you throw right there in the garbage can. If you really want to frame the mother then why in the hell would you write a ransom note at all? Just leave and make it look like the parents did it by not writing the note. That literally is so stupid to even postulate that it crosses over and becomes high comedy. I thank you for writing that reply as I laughed my *** off at it... that is if you actually wrote the reply and some masked intruder didn't climb into your basement window, kill you, then decide to make it look like you killed yourself by writing that reply for you. In which case I apologize and am deeply sorry that you've been killed just to fake a post.
 
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Bill Derington

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told y'all that would happen.

forget the case or your opinions of what happened, CBS will settle & pay big. so irresponsible for a national network tv station to do that, let amateur part time sleuths put on an incomplete 'case' show and say a brother murdered his sister 20 years ago.

They won't pay a dime, this is all grandstanding by the Ramsey's attorney.

They followed the evidence and debunked the other theories, they didn't say Burke did it, they said he was the prime suspect in their opinion.

As the other poster alluded, the Ramsey's want no part of this in a trial. What happens if a jury comes to the same conclusion? That CBS simply followed the evidence and came to a logical conclusion? The Ramsey's were offered the chance to be involved, to find their family members killer, and declined.
 
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Get Buckets

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They won't pay a dime, this is all grandstanding by the Ramsey's attorney.

They followed the evidence and debunked the other theories, they didn't say Burke did it, they said he was the prime suspect in their opinion.

As the other poster alluded, the Ramsey's want no part of this in a trial. What happens if a jury comes to the same conclusion? That CBS simply followed the evidence and came to a logical conclusion? The Ramsey's were offered the chance to be involved, to find their family members killer, and declined.

Not sure those saying there is a case against CBS for slander have any idea what that means.