Who should the No. 1 candidate be?

[spreadoption_rivals80969]

I think we all can agree that Clown Brown should be fired ASAP, so who should be the No. 1 target for WVU’s next head coach? Who is the guy we should going all-in to get and why?

The next head coach will come in with the bar for success being set at its lowest point in more than 40 years (thanks to Clown Brown) so that could attract some quality coaches.

 

[SKYHAWKBALL]

Rich Rod

Other than that, controversial choice but I like it ————> Tom Herman

 

[westsiderSJHS77]

Lay down your 14 million and fire away.

 

[spreadoption_rivals80969]

Are you saying Clown Brown shouldn’t be fired?

 

[WVU_Dave]

I'm ready to welcome RR back.

 

[OlegeezEER]

I think we all can agree that Clown Brown should be fired ASAP, so who should be the No. 1 target for WVU’s next head coach? Who is the guy we should going all-in to get and why?

The next head coach will come in with the bar for success being set at its lowest point in more than 40 years (thanks to Clown Brown) so that could attract some quality coaches.

I wouldn't mind having someone like Leipold we need this type of an offense. The next coach needs to be anti air raid I have seen enough of this crap its not for wvu.

 

[OlegeezEER]

Rich Rod

Other than that, controversial choice but I like it ————> Tom Herman

The problem is a Rich Rod offense was in the house tonight it just wasn't on the right Sideline. It currently resides in Lawrence Kansas and not Morgantown Wv where it belongs.

 

[EERs 3:16]

Jamey Chadwell

 

[dangerousdaneerfan]

Huff at Marshall

 

[sammyk]

App state coach

 

[Buckaineer]

Fisher if you can get him after A n M let’s him go.

then.

Marshalls coach
App State Coach
Coastal Carolina coach

then:

who is up and coming at Georgia, Alabama, Ohio State?

WVU needs proven winners but also someone who will move himself and any family to Morgantown.

 

[sammyk]

Fisher if you can get him after A n M let’s him go.

then.

Marshalls coach
App State Coach
Coastal Carolina coach

then:

who is up and coming at Georgia, Alabama, Ohio State?

WVU needs proven winners but also someone who will move himself and a

y family to Morgantow

Fisher if you can get him after A n M let’s him go.

then.

Marshalls coach
App State Coach
Coastal Carolina coach

then:

who is up and coming at Georgia, Alabama, Ohio State?

WVU needs proven winners but also someone who will move himself and any family to Morgantown.

looking at what you had posted I would say the Marshall coach and APP St coach are good choices. You have got to find someone who sees WVU as a destination job not a stepping stone job. If you can get that then you might have your guy. Sometimes when you get an assistant from one of the big schools (Bama, OSU, LSU TX ect) they are looking to use a place to go to a better place. WVU can be a really good place but it does have drawbacks. WVU might need a guy like what Rich Rod was (Still shocked he left) a guy with charisma who can win. But as stated earlier being a head coach is not easy, and in fact often times sucks. Being a college coach now has to be crazy difficult with the portal NIL ect. Lot more headaches than 10-15 years ago

 

[Tylerite]

looking at what you had posted I would say the Marshall coach and APP St coach are good choices. You have got to find someone who sees WVU as a destination job not a stepping stone job. If you can get that then you might have your guy. Sometimes when you get an assistant from one of the big schools (Bama, OSU, LSU TX ect) they are looking to use a place to go to a better place. WVU can be a really good place but it does have drawbacks

At least Morgantown is not in the Carolinas. That’s a plus.

 

[Euell]

looking at what you had posted I would say the Marshall coach and APP St coach are good choices. You have got to find someone who sees WVU as a destination job not a stepping stone job. If you can get that then you might have your guy. Sometimes when you get an assistant from one of the big schools (Bama, OSU, LSU TX ect) they are looking to use a place to go to a better place. WVU can be a really good place but it does have drawbacks. WVU might need a guy like what Rich Rod was (Still shocked he left) a guy with charisma who can win. But as stated earlier being a head coach is not easy, and in fact often times sucks. Being a college coach now has to be crazy difficult with the portal NIL ect. Lot more headaches than 10-15 years ago

I've never seen Rich Rod and charisma used in the same sentence.

 

[sammyk]

At least Morgantown is not in the Carolinas. That’s a plus.

That is true Morgantown is not in the Carolinas. A plus I am not so sure of that but that's my opinion. Great weather great beaches the mountains are awesome. Ton of high school talent so yea not that bad of a place. Thing is if you asked the head coaches at (Wake, ECU, APP, Duke, UNCC,) if they were offered the head coaching job at UNC or NC State would they take it , if they were being honest they would say yes

 

[sammyk]

I've never seen Rich Rod and charisma used in the same sentence.

When he was there he had the entire state eating out of his hand.

 

[Euell]

When he was there he had the entire state eating out of his hand.

It wasn't because of charisma. It was because he was winning football games with an innovative style of play. Also, that was before people found out what a dickhead he was . He went from having the potential to be elected Governor to being less popular than Saddam Hussein.

 

[sammyk]

It wasn't because of charisma. It was because he was winning football games with an innovative style of play. Also, that was before people found out what a dickhead he was . He went from having the potential to be elected Governor to being less popular than Saddam Hussein.

Well him leaving helped that. If he stayed who knows where WVU football would have gone or where it would be??? But I bet many would be ok if he came back

 

[Tylerite]

That is true Morgantown is not in the Carolinas. A plus I am not so sure of that but that's my opinion. Great weather great beaches the mountains are awesome. Ton of high school talent so yea not that bad of a place. Thing is if you asked the head coaches at (Wake, ECU, APP, Duke, UNCC,) if they were offered the head coaching job at UNC or NC State would they take it , if they were being honest they would say yes

Weather is not that great, humidity is bad, Florida beaches are better. WV has more beautiful mountains and hills.

 

[sammyk]

Weather is not that great, humidity is bad, Florida beaches are better. WV has more beautiful mountains and hills.

So you have to combine 2 states to have what NC has. West Virginia is very pretty not taking anything away from that, BUT Asheville , Boone, Cherokee , Grandfather MTN , Hanging rock are pretty much postcards. Then you have your bigger cities of Charlotte and Raleigh where there are tons of things to do. The outer banks are amazing so are the beaches in NC, best beaches on the east coast after FL,and really you need to get to south FL or the gulf coast to find better beaches than NC plus Wilmington NC is an awesome smaller city on the ocean. WV has some great places they do but NC little different animal

 

[eerdoc]

I think we all can agree that Clown Brown should be fired ASAP, so who should be the No. 1 target for WVU’s next head coach? Who is the guy we should going all-in to get and why?

The next head coach will come in with the bar for success being set at its lowest point in more than 40 years (thanks to Clown Brown) so that could attract some quality coaches.

ALL do not agree!
IMO, such talk is utterly foolish. biased, and ill considered (not really applying logic and facts).. Such an 'inquiry' does NOTHING to improve our team and general support. Surely we do not wish to replay the Bobby Bowden saga. We need the critics to become supporters and NOT distractors.

 

[sammyk]

ALL do not agree!
IMO, such talk is utterly foolish. biased, and ill considered (not really applying logic and facts).. Such an 'inquiry' does NOTHING to improve our team and general support. Surely we do not wish to replay the Bobby Bowden saga. We need the critics to become supporters and NOT distractors.

I think the WVU job can be a good job but it is a very tough job. You are very much dependent on other states for prospects. And even though that has been pretty much the case for 70 years it's even tougher now. Back in the 90's and 2000's when WVU was in theBig East WVU could go into PA, VA, NJ, NY, FL, OH , KY and say hey you will have an opportunity to play in front of and against people you know. That's no longer the case. So it makes recruiting very difficult from that standpoint. Also the NIL $$$ is not on WVU side. Even now the Big 12 is losing Texas there are still teams int he conference that will out NIL them. So Coach brown or whomever the coach is will have to battle that. Now I understand should WVU beat Kansas ? Yes but its not all coaching there are a lot of things going against WVU than helping them.

 

[eerdoc]

looking at what you had posted I would say the Marshall coach and APP St coach are good choices. You have got to find someone who sees WVU as a destination job not a stepping stone job. If you can get that then you might have your guy. Sometimes when you get an assistant from one of the big schools (Bama, OSU, LSU TX ect) they are looking to use a place to go to a better place. WVU can be a really good place but it does have drawbacks. WVU might need a guy like what Rich Rod was (Still shocked he left) a guy with charisma who can win. But as stated earlier being a head coach is not easy, and in fact often times sucks. Being a college coach now has to be crazy difficult with the portal NIL ect. Lot more headaches than 10-15 years ago

GREAT POST!
The coaches at Marshall and APP State have had some salt 2022 success. What history as a HD coach does either have? Totally agree with the nature of the bally-hoo assistants at NAME places. ABSOLUTELY, we NEED stability within the coaching ranks. That means assistants but. most importantly, the HC. I do not believe NB has done a poor job--PERIOD. Consider several circumstances related to the times and, especially, this program and this conclusion is realistic.
We now have a proven OC and a legitimate super QB. We have a young kid that has the real potential to be a star at QB. We have a deep stable of RBs. We have (and are recruiting) good players)> Look at how many we will NOT graduate this year. Next year (IF we can have some loyalty from them--which has been lacking recently) we should field a real powerhouse.
So, CHANGE COACHES NOW?? Absolute Nonsense. Such talk should be shut down and actually watch games with an open mind- We have been in a position to WIN BOTH game we lost. A misplay here or there does not represent a chronic condition. Such performance error ARE CORRECTABLE, which I suspect will happen as this personnel plays more together.

 

[Tylerite]

So you have to combine 2 states to have what NC has. West Virginia is very pretty not taking anything away from that, BUT Asheville , Boone, Cherokee , Grandfather MTN , Hanging rock are pretty much postcards. Then you have your bigger cities of Charlotte and Raleigh where there are tons of things to do. The outer banks are amazing so are the beaches in NC, best beaches on the east coast after FL,and really you need to get to south FL or the gulf coast to find better beaches than NC plus Wilmington NC is an awesome smaller city on the ocean. WV has some great places they do but NC little different animal

I guess you haven’t heard, when West Virginians move to North Carolina, it raises the IQ of both states. Hahaha

 

[sammyk]

I guess you haven’t heard, when West Virginians move to North Carolina, it raises the IQ of both states. Hahaha

HAHAHAHA Well lots of silver WV down here.

 

[westsiderSJHS77]

Getting those players to return will be an up hill battle given all the negative atmosphere around the program. Player has a great game and throws his one and only interception and the boo’s rain down.

 

[Buckaineer]

looking at what you had posted I would say the Marshall coach and APP St coach are good choices. You have got to find someone who sees WVU as a destination job not a stepping stone job. If you can get that then you might have your guy. Sometimes when you get an assistant from one of the big schools (Bama, OSU, LSU TX ect) they are looking to use a place to go to a better place. WVU can be a really good place but it does have drawbacks. WVU might need a guy like what Rich Rod was (Still shocked he left) a guy with charisma who can win. But as stated earlier being a head coach is not easy, and in fact often times sucks. Being a college coach now has to be crazy difficult with the portal NIL ect. Lot more headaches than 10-15 years ago

App States coach is from Charleston, and he’s in a small community now so those aspects make sense as would MUs coach.

They both coach solid sound football and know how to work with their players and motivate them in big games.

If you aren’t going for them then an assistant at a top program ready for a HC job is what to look for.

Someone who has been around and learned from those winning at the highest levels of college football.

 

[WVUALLEN]

I think we all can agree that Clown Brown should be fired ASAP, so who should be the No. 1 target for WVU’s next head coach? Who is the guy we should going all-in to get and why?

The next head coach will come in with the bar for success being set at its lowest point in more than 40 years (thanks to Clown Brown) so that could attract some quality coaches.

Unfortunate for you and all WVU fans. Brown is here due to buyout too much.

 

[spreadoption_rivals80969]

ALL do not agree!
IMO, such talk is utterly foolish. biased, and ill considered (not really applying logic and facts).. Such an 'inquiry' does NOTHING to improve our team and general support. Surely we do not wish to replay the Bobby Bowden saga. We need the critics to become supporters and NOT distractors.

I didn't know it was my job to improve our team and general support. I thought that was HCNB's job and why they pay him way, way too much.

 

[The Bell Tolls for Thee]

ALL do not agree!
IMO, such talk is utterly foolish. biased, and ill considered (not really applying logic and facts).. Such an 'inquiry' does NOTHING to improve our team and general support. Surely we do not wish to replay the Bobby Bowden saga. We need the critics to become supporters and NOT distractors.

Bowden did something different at FSU and he did so because he was run off at WVU. Had he been praised for doing what he did at WVU, he likely would've kept doing what he was doing rather than changing his strategy like he did at FSU. He was also on the cutting edge of allowing Florida natives who had no business being past the 6th grade with criminal records into college just to have a good football team. A strategy unlikely to work at WVU at that time. Also Bowden at least had some accomplishments like the Peach Bowl at WVU. Neal has ZERO accomplishments of note at WVU. He'll at least Holgorsen had upset wins vs OSU and Baylor during his bad to average seasons. Neal has nothing close. So your comparison to Bowden is absolutely irrelevant. The overwhelming statistical data shows that a coach with very little growth over 3 seasons RARELY go on to have any significant success at that program. This includes coaches that go on to do well somewhere else.

 

[deedoubleyou]

I watched most of the Liberty vs Wake Forest game, and Hugh Freeze's team was impressive to watch. So much fight. Even though he didnt get it, I like that he went for 2 at the end of the game to avoid overtime and try to get the W against a ranked power 5 team. His team played hard and looked way more disciplined than WVU has since Rich Rod. He tops my list at this point.

 

[WVUALLEN]

Rich Rod

Other than that, controversial choice but I like it ————> Tom Herman

Cry baby Tommy.

 

[eerdoc]

I watched most of the Liberty vs Wake Forest game, and Hugh Freeze's team was impressive to watch. So much fight. Even though he didnt get it, I like that he went for 2 at the end of the game to avoid overtime and try to get the W against a ranked power 5 team. His team played hard and looked way more disciplined than WVU has since Rich Rod. He tops my list at this point.

Such talk is really counter productive. We have a good coach. We have a very decent team this year. We have the QB that we have missed for the last sever4al years. Why not curb the replacement talk and actively support our CURRENT staff who have not done the bad job that some of our myopic critics want to lay on them?

 

[Buckaineer]

It’s difficult to understand anyone that would claim two five win seasons ( one with an eked out bowl win over a g5), a six win season with a double digit loss to a mid to lower B10 team, a 1-2 start with the only win an fcs team, is “ good job by the staff”?

Thats one of the worst 3 plus year stretches for coaching in WVUs history. Even more perplexing when these same posters weren’t ok with 7, 8 and 10 win seasons, now suddenly 5 wins is “ a good job?”

Its not a good job, it stinks.

Why is anyone worried about the stability of someone that can only deliver 5 win seasons? Because Brown has illustrated clearly that is what he can produce for WVU. That has destabilized WVU football to the point it isn’t even an afterthought anywhere.

Lots of games ahead for a turnaround, but playing good at home against an overmatched fcs squad doesn’t really register at this point. Let’s see what the conference and P5 record looks like.

 

[WVUALLEN]

Might as well buckle up...

It is true the extension promises him $16.7 if he's fired on Jan. 1, 2023, but that's only because Jan. 1 is the starting date of a new contract year and the salaries in the final four years total $16.7 million. If he was fired on Dec. 31, he'd be owed about $16,709,598, which is all of his 2023-26 salaries plus just one day of his 2022 salary. If he was fired on Jan. 1, he'd be owed all of his 2023-26 salaries. If he was fired a day later, he'd be owed all of his 2023-26 salaries less just one day of 2023 pay.

The difference between firing Brown immediately after Saturday's overtime loss to Kansas and firing him today is two days of his salary. If WVU fired him Sunday morning, it would owe him everything left on his contract. If WVU fired him immediately after the final game of this season, it would have already paid him everything he earned working from Sunday to the date of the final game and would then owe him everything left on the contract. There is no financial incentive for urgency.

There is one point in the contract when the calendar would turn and WVU's obligation would be appreciably less than the day before. When the 2024 contract year expires and the 2025 contract year begins, WVU only owes Brown 85 percent of his remaining salary. His 2025-26 salaries are $4.2 and $4.4 million. On Dec. 31, 2024, WVU would owe him the final day of his 2024 salary plus $8.6 million. On Jan. 1, 2025, WVU would owe him $7.31 million.

Mike Casazza Sep 13, 9:00 AM

 

[Jason Voorhees]

It’s difficult to understand anyone that would claim two five win seasons ( one with an eked out bowl win over a g5), a six win season with a double digit loss to a mid to lower B10 team, a 1-2 start with the only win an fcs team, is “ good job by the staff”?

Thats one of the worst 3 plus year stretches for coaching in WVUs history. Even more perplexing when these same posters weren’t ok with 7, 8 and 10 win seasons, now suddenly 5 wins is “ a good job?”

Its not a good job, it stinks.

Why is anyone worried about the stability of someone that can only deliver 5 win seasons? Because Brown has illustrated clearly that is what he can produce for WVU. That has destabilized WVU football to the point it isn’t even an afterthought anywhere.

Lots of games ahead for a turnaround, but playing good at home against an overmatched fcs squad doesn’t really register at this point. Let’s see what the conference and P5 record looks like.

Its difficult to understand why you keep moving the goal posts to fit your agenda. Brown has had two six wins season. When Dana won his bowl games you didn't have any problem adding that win to his total but I guess anyone not named Dana doesn't get that Liberty. I remember last week you told us not to be surprised if Duke put up a better fight against Kansas. What do you to say for yourself now that your messiah did worse than Brown against Kansas. BTW the Minnesota team that wvu played last season won 9 games which is much better than the 7-6 records your messiah kept giving us.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

It’s difficult to understand anyone that would claim two five win seasons ( one with an eked out bowl win over a g5), a six win season with a double digit loss to a mid to lower B10 team, a 1-2 start with the only win an fcs team, is “ good job by the staff”?

Thats one of the worst 3 plus year stretches for coaching in WVUs history. Even more perplexing when these same posters weren’t ok with 7, 8 and 10 win seasons, now suddenly 5 wins is “ a good job?”

Its not a good job, it stinks.

Why is anyone worried about the stability of someone that can only deliver 5 win seasons? Because Brown has illustrated clearly that is what he can produce for WVU. That has destabilized WVU football to the point it isn’t even an afterthought anywhere.

Lots of games ahead for a turnaround, but playing good at home against an overmatched fcs squad doesn’t really register at this point. Let’s see what the conference and P5 record looks like.

Buck you need to move over to the Houston board a good many are having buyers remorse.

https://247sports.com/college/houston/board/102451/Contents/renu-and-dana-193586981/?page=1

 

[Jason Voorhees]

It’s difficult to understand anyone that would claim two five win seasons ( one with an eked out bowl win over a g5), a six win season with a double digit loss to a mid to lower B10 team, a 1-2 start with the only win an fcs team, is “ good job by the staff”?

Thats one of the worst 3 plus year stretches for coaching in WVUs history. Even more perplexing when these same posters weren’t ok with 7, 8 and 10 win seasons, now suddenly 5 wins is “ a good job?”

Its not a good job, it stinks.

Why is anyone worried about the stability of someone that can only deliver 5 win seasons? Because Brown has illustrated clearly that is what he can produce for WVU. That has destabilized WVU football to the point it isn’t even an afterthought anywhere.

Lots of games ahead for a turnaround, but playing good at home against an overmatched fcs squad doesn’t really register at this point. Let’s see what the conference and P5 record looks like.

 

[The Bell Tolls for Thee]

Such talk is really counter productive. We have a good coach. We have a very decent team this year. We have the QB that we have missed for the last sever4al years. Why not curb the replacement talk and actively support our CURRENT staff who have not done the bad job that some of our myopic critics want to lay on them?

It is not myopic that Brown is looking at a 6-6 finish at best in his 4th year at WVU. It is not myopic to note that the same game/time management mistakes, pre-snap penalties, and shitting the bed in a tight game are a recurring theme with WVU under Brown. You just say Brown is a good coach, but the objective results on the field do not agree. Brown has preformed average at best.

 

[Buckaineer]

Its difficult to understand why you keep moving the goal posts to fit your agenda. Brown has had two six wins season. When Dana won his bowl games you didn't have any problem adding that win to his total but I guess anyone not named Dana doesn't get that Liberty. I remember last week you told us not to be surprised if Duke put up a better fight against Kansas. What do you to say for yourself now that your messiah did worse than Brown against Kansas. BTW the Minnesota team that wvu played last season won 9 games which is much better than the 7-6 records your messiah kept giving us.

What goalpost has been moved? That’s just a lie.

The fact is Brown has TWO five win seasons and one 6 win season.And he is 1-2 on this season, only win an fcs. Fact is that is bad football for WVU and far lower performance than Dana Holgorsen delivered for WVU.

You are the one(s) moving goalposts with your previous “ 7 wins isn’t good enough” and now selling 5 win Neal is doing a good job.

Everyone knows Brown only had a chance to get a bowl win over a G5 because he didn’t have to play FSU or Ou that year and they allowed a five win team to have a bowl. He didn’t earn the bowl with wins In the regular season and normally wouldn’t have had such an opportunity and likely never will again.