Who should the No. 1 candidate be?

Buckaineer

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And he got beat by a higher division team ( KU is a P5, Houston has been recruiting in and for play in the AAC), yet he has a WINNING record. But he doesn’t coach WVU anymore. BROWN does.

Brown has a LOSING record for WVU— losing record overall. Losing record in conference, losing record against power conference teams.

And you are still trolling that a losing record is better than a winning record? Hmmm.
 

Jason Voorhees

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What goalpost has been moved? That’s just a lie.

The fact is Brown has TWO five win seasons and one 6 win season.And he is 1-2 on this season, only win an fcs. Fact is that is bad football for WVU and far lower performance than Dana Holgorsen delivered for WVU.

You are the one(s) moving goalposts with your previous “ 7 wins isn’t good enough” and now selling 5 win Neal is doing a good job.

Everyone knows Brown only had a chance to get a bowl win over a G5 because he didn’t have to play FSU or Ou that year and they allowed a five win team to have a bowl. He didn’t earn the bowl with wins In the regular season and normally wouldn’t have had such an opportunity and likely never will again.
The fsu team you speak of only won 3 games. You stated that Holgorsen was 8-5 in 2015 not 7-5. You added the bowl win as part of his total. so in 2020 was Brown 5-4 or 6-4? He won the bowl game you know which got him to 6. He won 6 games last season. So I guess the bowl loss shouldn't be counted as a loss since you don't count them as wins whenever anyone esle not named dana is coaching

BTW you still haven't addressed the fact that Brown did better than Dana against Kansas. If Brown was so terrible for losing that game then what does that make Dana?
 

Buckaineer

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The fsu team you speak of only won 3 games. You stated that Holgorsen was 8-5 in 2015 not 7-5. You added the bowl win as part of his total. so in 2020 was Brown 5-4 or 6-4? He won the bowl game you know which got him to 6. He won 6 games last season. So I guess the bowl loss shouldn't be counted as a loss since you don't count them as wins whenever anyone esle not named dana is coaching

BTW you still haven't addressed the fact that Brown did better than Dana against Kansas. If Brown was so terrible for losing that game then what does that make Dana?
Brown hasn’t shown anything to make anyone believe he would have beaten FSU which I believe defeated a good North Carolina team that year.

Browns record factually is two five win seasons- one with an asterisk added bowl game win over a G5. ( a gifted game because rules were changed to allow a five win team into a bowl which is not normal). A third season in which he won six games and lost a bowl, and a 1-2 start, only win vs. An FCS.

You still haven’t answered. Are two five win regular seasons, a six win regular season and a 1-2 start— a losing record overall, a losing record in conference and a losing record vs. the P5 better than a 7 win per season average, an 8 win average last five years, a better than 8 win average the last four, A winning record in conference,, v. The P5 and overall ( in fact the second most wins ever for WVU?) Let me help you- the answer is NO.

WVU football has been bad under Brown and there isn’t any way to spin that it hasn’t been.

Historically WVU football has been better than Brown and football has regressed in every area since he arrived.
 

Jason Voorhees

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And he got beat by a higher division team ( KU is a P5, Houston has been recruiting in and for play in the AAC), yet he has a WINNING record. But he doesn’t coach WVU anymore. BROWN does.

Brown has a LOSING record for WVU— losing record overall. Losing record in conference, losing record against power conference teams.

And you are still trolling that a losing record is better than a winning record? Hmmm.
The only one trolling is the guy who showed up last week starting threads quoting a youtuber in his basement that claimed he had info that wvu was passing the collection bin for a buyout. The same troll that posts every opinion article about expansion as it were fact. The same troll that told us how terrible Kansas is but now is making excuses for Houston, Last year you said Houston's schedule didn't matter and they were ready to take the Big 12 by storm. This year they are an AAC team that just got spanked but Kansas. Now losing to Kansas is acceptable. Houston is going to be the new door mat of the Big12

So Buck what is the state of your Messiah in Houston? The fans don't seem to happy with him.
 

Jason Voorhees

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Brown hasn’t shown anything to make anyone believe he would have beaten FSU which I believe defeated a good North Carolina team that year.

Browns recor is two five win seasons- one with an asterisk added bowl game win over a G5. ( a gifted game because rules were changed to allow a five win team into a bowl which is not normal). A third season in which he won six games and lost a bowl, and a 1-2 start, only win vs. An FCS.

You still haven’t answered. Are two five win regular seasons, a six win regular season and a 1-2 start— a losing record overall, a losing record in conference and a losing record vs. the P5 better than a 7 win per season average, an 8 win average last five years, a better than 8 win average the last four. Let me help you- the answer is NO.

WVU football has been bad under Brown and there isn’t any way to spin that it hasn’t been.

Historically WVU football has been better than Brown and football has regressed in every area since he arrived.
FSU hasn't shown that they can beat anyone in last 5 years until this year Troll. No Brown has had two 6 win seasons and one 5 win seasons you lying sac.
 

Buckaineer

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FSU hasn't shown that they can beat anyone in last 5 years until this year Troll. No Brown has had two 6 win seasons and one 5 win seasons you lying sac.
You are the lying sack. Pretend wins mean nothing, are just more of your Brown worship fantasy- pretending he beat a team he didn’t even play.

And you are still pretending two five win seasons and one six win seasons and a 1-2 start with an fcs win is a good thing for WVU football.

Its not, it sucks for WVU football and is one of the worst ever coaching efforts at WVU. Below average and below average for WVU.
 
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Buckaineer

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The only one trolling is the guy who showed up last week starting threads quoting a youtuber in his basement that claimed he had info that wvu was passing the collection bin for a buyout. The same troll that posts every opinion article about expansion as it were fact. The same troll that told us how terrible Kansas is but now is making excuses for Houston, Last year you said Houston's schedule didn't matter and they were ready to take the Big 12 by storm. This year they are an AAC team that just got spanked but Kansas. Now losing to Kansas is acceptable. Houston is going to be the new door mat of the Big12

So Buck what is the state of your Messiah in Houston? The fans don't seem to happy with him.
This is a lie. I posted information with links that a respected person in the CFB social media world ( again linked). Stated a couple of major boosters for WVU are interested in hiring a better coach should Brown fail to deliver this season. We will know how accurate that is should Brown continue his losing ways throughout this season.

You on the other hand continue trolling WVU fans that a coach with a losing record is better than one who won for WVU, and that having one of the worst ever WVU coaching records is good for WVU. All B.S. with no source or anything to back any of that nonsense up.
 

Jason Voorhees

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This is a lie. I posted information with links that a respected person in the CFB social media world ( again linked). Stated a couple of major boosters for WVU are interested in hiring a better coach should Brown fail to deliver this season. We will know how accurate that is should Brown continue his losing ways throughout this season.

You on the other hand continue trolling WVU fans that a coach with a losing record is better than one who won for WVU, and that having one of the worst ever WVU coaching records is good for WVU. All B.S. with no source or anything to back any of that nonsense up.
The only liar is yourself. You post garbage that fits your agenda and 99% of the time they are wrong
 

Jason Voorhees

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You are the lying sack. Pretend wins mean nothing, are just more of your Brown worship fantasy- pretending he beat a team he didn’t even play.

And you are still pretending two five win seasons and one six win seasons and a 1-2 start with an fcs win is a good thing for WVU football.

Its not, it sucks for WVU football and is one of the worst ever coaching efforts at WVU. Below average and below average for WVU.
How did Dana do against Kansas?
 

Buckaineer

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The only liar is yourself. You post garbage that fits your agenda and 99% of the time they are wrong
More ignorant lies— And you still haven’t answered:

Are two five win regular seasons, a six win regular season and a 1-2 start this season, a losing record overall, a losing record in conference and a losing record vs. the P5 better than a 7 win per season average, an 8 win average last five years, a better than 8 win average the last four, A winning record in conference,, v. The P5 and overall ( in fact the second most wins ever for WVU?)

Answer troll. Or are you afraid of the truth?
 

Jason Voorhees

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More ignorant lies— And you still haven’t answered:

Are two five win regular seasons, a six win regular season and a 1-2 start this season, a losing record overall, a losing record in conference and a losing record vs. the P5 better than a 7 win per season average, an 8 win average last five years, a better than 8 win average the last four, A winning record in conference,, v. The P5 and overall ( in fact the second most wins ever for WVU?)

Answer troll. Or are you afraid of the truth?
So now we are talking regular seasons? That means Dana only had one 10 win season and he only won more than 7 games twice in 8 years and there's nothing special about that.
 

Buckaineer

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So now we are talking regular seasons? That means Dana only had one 10 win season and he only won more than 7 games twice in 8 years and there's nothing special about that.
And he would still be better than Brown. But no, Holgorsen was never gifted a bowl game, he coached his way to all of those games. As you know there were only two wins in bowls. But he coached the team to both. The bowls weren’t handed to him in a five win season. Other than that all wins were in the regular season.

Brown was handed a bowl after yet another five win season- a season where he didn’t have to match up with FSU or Oklahoma And he still only won five games btw. One against an fcs and the other before Kansas’ current reemergence.

Still waiting on an answer:

Are two five win regular seasons, a six win regular season and a 1-2 start this season, a losing record overall, a losing record in conference and a losing record vs. the P5 better than a 7 win per season average, an 8 win average last five years, a better than 8 win average the last four, A winning record in conference,, v. The P5 and overall ( in fact the second most wins ever for WVU?)

Answer troll. Or are you afraid of the truth?
 

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And he would still be better than Brown. But no, Holgorsen was never gifted a bowl game, he coached his way to all of those games. As you know there were only two wins in bowls. But he coached the team to both. The bowls weren’t handed to him in a five win season. Other than that all wins were in the regular season.

Brown was handed a bowl after yet another five win season- a season where he didn’t have to match up with FSU or Oklahoma And he still only won five games btw. One against an fcs and the other before Kansas’ current reemergence.

Still waiting on an answer:

Are two five win regular seasons, a six win regular season and a 1-2 start this season, a losing record overall, a losing record in conference and a losing record vs. the P5 better than a 7 win per season average, an 8 win average last five years, a better than 8 win average the last four, A winning record in conference,, v. The P5 and overall ( in fact the second most wins ever for WVU?)

Answer troll. Or are you afraid of the truth?
The only troll is you. Why did Dana perform so badly against Kansas?
 

WVUALLEN

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It is not myopic that Brown is looking at a 6-6 finish at best in his 4th year at WVU. It is not myopic to note that the same game/time management mistakes, pre-snap penalties, and shitting the bed in a tight game are a recurring theme with WVU under Brown. You just say Brown is a good coach, but the objective results on the field do not agree. Brown has preformed average at best.
Praying we can at least go 6-6. Odds are not in favor of it.
 

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You are the lying sack. Pretend wins mean nothing, are just more of your Brown worship fantasy- pretending he beat a team he didn’t even play.

And you are still pretending two five win seasons and one six win seasons and a 1-2 start with an fcs win is a good thing for WVU football.

Its not, it sucks for WVU football and is one of the worst ever coaching efforts at WVU. Below average and below average for WVU.
Let's see Brown has gone 5-7, 6-4, 6-7...I know he hasn't been good but your math sucks.
 

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Such talk is really counter productive. We have a good coach. We have a very decent team this year. We have the QB that we have missed for the last sever4al years. Why not curb the replacement talk and actively support our CURRENT staff who have not done the bad job that some of our myopic critics want to lay on them?
Because I dont want to. WVU deserves better and can have better. Neal Brown has had plenty of time to show improvement and he hasnt.